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Any religion, race or even history based threads eventually go down the gutter because of people trolling with proxy accounts.
Any religion, race or even history based threads eventually go down the gutter because of people trolling with proxy accounts.
Please that is bullcrap! Brahmins was a very fluidic caste in earlier times. Patit Brahmins were treated as Shudra. While intelligentia from Other class varnas were elevated to Brahmins. The original gotras of Brahmins as mentioned during vedic times were: Gautama, Bharadvaja, Vishvamitra,Jamadagni, Vashishtha, Kashyapa and Shandilya. Today there are tons & tons of other gotras within brahmins. how did they come into being? And arya theory is bullcrap. genetics dont support arya theory.what an Idiot, have u ever studied history as all ?
i guess you are an low iq Austroloid from South.
yes, language of brahmins is sanskrit and we did enforced it on native aadivasis of south. in different form, Prakrit. and no we never Petronised, it was just a show to give native feeling that we are blending. even most of coins were stuck in prakrit as well.kings of both dynesties call themselves Brahmins who migrated from north.
anyway i dont have free time from aadivasi retards. learn history before opening your mouth.
You reached your own conclusions. And you are happy with those revelations.Brahmins are a tribe not a caste, we are vedic people aka Aryans. We conqured, ruled and civilized this land.
Brush up your history.
Also king hemu
Well past is past; my ancestors may have been Hindus, Zoroastrians, Buddhists, Animists etc...
Zoroastrianism was aggressively promoted by the Achaemenids; under their reign - Zoroastrianism grew in regions like NWFP and Balochistan.Not Zoroastrians. Zoroastrianism was never prevalent in India.
Sikh scriptures cannot be compared to the Bible which is completely inconsistent and has different versions. Even though scriptures were written by different persons, there is a central theme and we Sikhs believe that all Gurus had the "jot" of Guru Nanak. Regardless of whether as a non Sikh you believe this or not, the central theme is that there is no denouncement of Hinduism. Hindu Gods are exalted but the Gurus say that only Akal should be prayed to. Anyway, we're derailing the thread, I get the point that you wanted to make and agree with it.@Project Dharma yes. I think in Sikhism we can find both reverence and denouncement of Hinduism. Now considering Sikh scriptures were not written by a single person so opinions differ. I have read Bible also there too is huge difference.
They never promoted Zoroastrianism. If they were aggressive in promoting religion, Sumerian religion, Greek Religion and Judaism would be extinct. Same time NWFP and Balochistan were inhabited by Indo-Aryan speakers. Baloch and Pashtun people are recent migrants there. Baloch came from Kurdistan area and Pashtuns expanded with Ghazni raids displacing Dardic people. I dont deny perhaps some Zoroastrians were there, but it was never widespread. Alexander did not find Zoroastrianism in India.Zoroastrianism was aggressively promoted by the Achaemenids; under their reign - Zoroastrianism grew in regions like NWFP and Balochistan.
You believe Islam is fulfilling in complete sense?Well past is past; my ancestors may have been Hindus, Zoroastrians, Buddhists, Animists etc...
I don't really have any specific views on it; i'm just happy of my religion and that my ancestors converted to Islam.
Ah yes 1947, I'm not aware of men being forced to convert to Sikhism/Hinduism on this side although there were "ghar wapsi" ceremonies later to cajole Muslims back into the fold. However, women that were captured from the other side were forcibly married to Sikhs and Hindus and they were converted.@Project Dharma in 1947 there were forced conversions on both side of punjab.
A little ancedote, muslim were mainly tillers on land owned by hindu/sikh in kandi area. In 1947, pressure was intense to kill them/drive them off to Pakistan. Landowners, did not want to loose their cheap labour, so as quick fix heads of muslims shaved off, converted to hindus to pacify mob. After things cooled down , those converted hindus were asked to go back to islam if they wish but with conditions: no masjid will be built, no public azaans will be made, basically they will have to practice religion in quite and in unobtrusive way. All things were good for 40-50 years, untill last decade, when droves of purbiya muslims were settled in those areas under sickularism which upset balanceAh yes 1947, I'm not aware of men being forced to convert to Sikhism/Hinduism on this side although there were "ghar wapsi" ceremonies later to cajole Muslims back into the fold. However, women that were captured from the other side were forcibly married to Sikhs and Hindus and they were converted.
What is your definition of spirituality?What can it offer to me in spiritual-wise?
Soul searching, digging the tunnel to reach the other side, experimenting with the available truths.What is your definition of spirituality?
Thanks - let's wait for Zulfiqar Khan to reply but in terms of one of the above "digging the tunnel to reach the other side", Islam does make its followers follow a set of very rigid rules based on which they are judged in the afterlife so I'd say that it's spiritual in that regard.Soul searching, digging the tunnel to reach the other side, experimenting with the available truths.
Doing work in a way that can make you be one with the nature.
Definition varies w.r.t. context.
That is the problem here.Thanks - let's wait for Zulfiqar Khan to reply but in terms of one of the above "digging the tunnel to reach the other side", Islam does make its followers follow a set of very rigid rules based on which they are judged in the afterlife so I'd say that it's spiritual in that regard.
Not Zoroastrians. Zoroastrianism was never prevalent in India.
@Peter I suppose you should start your study with R.C. Majumdar's History of Bengal Ancient period.
@Project Dharma yes. I think in Sikhism we can find both reverence and denouncement of Hinduism. Now considering Sikh scriptures were not written by a single person so opinions differ. I have read Bible also there too is huge difference. Btw you can look into sack of Peshawar.