Wahabism In India

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  1. sorcerer

    sorcerer Senior Member Senior Member

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    After PM Modi's Appeal, Barelvi Sufis Hit Out Against Wahabism in India

    NEW DELHI: Prime Minister Narendra Modi appealing to the clerics of Barelvi sect among the Muslim Sunni community to step up their efforts to counter extremism, the clerics have raised a clarion call against the Wahabi ideology and demanded the government to clear the Waqf Boards across the country off the control of Wahabi elements.

    An anti-terrorism Sunni conference organised by All India Tanzeem Ulama -e- Islam (AITUI) in the national capital on Monday spewed venom against the Wahabi ideology and cautioned the community against the radicalisation being funded by the Saudi and Qatar petro-dollars.

    "AITUI clearly states that this radicalisation is being spread within Muslim community like a virus by Wahabi elements funded by Petro dollars of Saudi Arabia & Qatar ... AITU wants to highlight the fact that ISIS is active in Indian under different names and banners. These ISIS fronts are organising conferences, and programmes to show their presence in India to their Saudi and Qatar-based funders and to assure them that they are present in India and working for the vested interests of Wahabis Monarchies of Saudi Arabia & Qatar," declared the conference of Barelvi clerics at Talkatora Stadium in the national capital while demanding the government to ban organisations promoting Wahabi and Salafi objectives.

    "We want to say that these radical organisations are working for Wahabi and Salafi objective of radicalising youth in the name of social revolution. AITUI demand that the activities of these extremist organisations be banned as they are working against national security," the conference demanded, asserting that "Wahabism is part of dirty politics and has nothing to do with Islam". The impressive gathering of Sufi Sunni Muslim community members in the national capital, in this backdrop, also pitched its battle against the dominance of Wahabi or Deobandi followers in the affairs of Waqf Boards and minority educational institutions and prevalence of their teaching through various forms in the country.

    The gathering holds significance in wake of Prime Minister Narendra Modi's appeal to members of Barelvi sect to counter extremism by way of Sufi version of Islam "In his remarks during a meeting with a delegation of 40 Barelvi Sufi Scholars from various parts of the country this evening, the Prime Minister said that forces of extremism are attempting to weaken the Sufi ideology today. He added that it is essential for Sufi saints and scholars to counter these forces through various avenues including on social media, so that the ideology of extremism does not take root in India," a government communique had revealed about Prime Minister's appeal to the community of Barelvi Sufi scholars in their meeting in August last year.

    While the August communique by government did not refer to Wahabi ideology, the gathering of Barelvi Sufi clerics in the national capital today launched a tirade against the Wahabi ideology and sought government action to contain the followers of Wahabi sect in Waqf Boards among other things.

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  3. FRYCRY

    FRYCRY Regular Member

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    i guess it is wahhabi islam which focuses more on the 72 virgin concept
     
  4. Nuvneet Kundu

    Nuvneet Kundu Senior Member Senior Member

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    All so called sects of Islam are still based on the SAME book. Let's keep that in mind before we give a free pass to anyone.

    India itself is a birth place of multiple such sects, Barelvi (from Baraeli), Deobandi (from Deoband) and Ahl-e-Hadis, to name a few. Each of them have their armed wings. Deobandis are the ideological mentors of terror group Sipah-e-Sahaba and Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, Ahl-e-Hadis are the mentors of Lashkar-e-Taiba and Jamat-ud-Dawah. Each one of them can give the Wahhabis a run for their money when it comes to religious violence.

    Quite an illustrious achievement, don't you think?

    This is a good read : http://www.hudson.org/research/9848-the-assertion-of-barelvi-extremism
     
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  5. saty

    saty Tihar Jail Banned

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    WTF is Wahabism/jihadism/suifism/sunism/shiaism/deobandism/arabsim..... :rofl:

    Quran is the one &only reason for terror from last 1400 years.Anyway what Modi will do wait&see!!
     
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    asingh10 Senior Member Senior Member

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    It's all Abrahamic monotheism. Rest is just dust in the eye for the naive.
     
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    Jamiat-Ulama-i-Hind, the powerful body of Muslim clerics, has said that Muslim personal law flows from the Holy Quran and cannot be subjected to any scrutiny by the Supreme Court based on principles of the Constitution.

    "Mohammedan law is founded essentially on the Holy Quran and this cannot fall within the purview of the expression 'laws in force' as mentioned in Article 13 of the Constitution, and hence its validity cannot be tested on a challenge based on Part-III of the Constitution (guaranteeing fundamental rights, including right to equality)," the JUH application filed through advocate Ejaz Maqbool said.
     
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  8. saty

    saty Tihar Jail Banned

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    Not Abrahamic only Islamic. No xian/jew blindly believes/follow Bible/tora but Muslims blindly believes every word in that filthy book.According to them every word is true and cannot be questioned.:rofl:

    And add blind worship of pedo,murderer,terrorist poppet

    Osho on Islam

    "Mohammedanism is a religion of peace, but who else has succeeded more in bringing unrest? Mohammed was an absolutely illiterate man, and the Koran, in which his sayings are collected, is ninety-nine percent rubbish. You can just open the book anywhere and read it, and you will be convinced of what I am saying. I am not saying on a certain page — anywhere. You just open the book accidentally, read the page and you will be convinced of what I am saying.



    Whatsoever one percent truth there is here and there in the Koran is not Mohammed's. It is just ordinary, ancient wisdom that uneducated people collect easily — more easily than the educated people, because educated people have far better sources of information — books, libraries, universities, scholars. The uneducated, simply by hearing the old people, collect a few words of wisdom here and there. And those words are significant, because for thousands of years they have been tested and found somehow true. So it is the wisdom of the ages that is scattered here and there; otherwise, it is the most ordinary book possible in the world.

    Muslims have been asking me, "Why don't you speak on the Koran? You have spoken on The Bible, on the Gita, this and that." I could not say to them that it is all rubbish; I simply went on postponing. Even just before I went into silence, a Muslim scholar sent the latest English version of the Koran, praying me to speak on it. But now I have to say that it is all rubbish, that is why I have not spoken on it — because why unnecessarily waste time?"

    OSHO, never afraid to say it like it is.
     
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  9. Bornubus

    Bornubus Senior Member Senior Member

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    Anyone can interpret Koran according to their own will that's what make Musalman different one is Kalam and other is ISIS and Osama.

    ISIS say they practice the true and purest form of Islam,Sufis in medieval times claimed their Islam was true.

    Sabka Malik Ek
     
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  10. Nuvneet Kundu

    Nuvneet Kundu Senior Member Senior Member

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    Your facts offend the opinions of sickulars.
     
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    Screambowl Senior Member Senior Member

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    Actually, in India, few specific communities have ''right to Riot and be communal'' , (conditions, the rest will call it freedom of speech) , only the amendment is remaining.

    But when the same methodology is adopted by the community in Majority, it is communal.

    Terrific!
     
  12. sorcerer

    sorcerer Senior Member Senior Member

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    How Saudi funded Rs 1,700 crore for Wahabi influence in India

    New Delhi, June 25: Last year violence broke out near a Mosque in Bommanhalli, Bengaluru and what was being termed as minor tiff was in fact a case of some youth trying to impose the Wahabi preachings

    When the seniors in the administration of the Mosque opposed these youth, there were clashes in which 4 persons were injured seriously. Saudi funded Wahabi influence in India In another incident that occurred in Maharashtra, Wahabi scholars bribed some members of the Mosque and attempted taking over the administration. While the Muslims in many states have opposed the Wahabis tooth and nail, success for the Saudi Arabia sponsored Wahabis was highest in Kerala.

    These are instances that could be read with the recent Wikileaks documents which suggested that Saudi Arabia is worried about the growing influence of Iran over India and the outreach by Tehran to the Shia community was worrying. The Muslim World League also requests Saudi Arabia to establish Wahabi centres in India to counter the threat from the Shias.

    How Saudi Arabia set up Wahabi centres in India? Saudi Arabia realizes that the Shias in India are a threat to the dominance of the Sunni community. India houses a large number of Shias and this according to the Saudis gives Iran an upper hand in India. However for Saudi the Sunnis in India have not followed the violent Wahabi style of Islam and there are many seniors in the Muslim community who will not allow that to happen. The only way Saudi could instill a radical thinking in the minds of the Sunni Muslims in India was by the establishment of Wahabi centres.


    The Wahabis are an extremely orthodox set of Sunni Muslims. There are several Muslims in India who subscribe to the Wahabi view. As a first step, Saudi sent in several Wahabi preachers into India an Intelligence Bureau report states. The years 2011 to 2013 alone saw a record number of 25,000 Wahabis coming to India and conducting seminars in various parts of the country. With them they brought in Rs 1700 crore in several installments and used it to propogate the Wahabi style of Islam. Wahabism found success in Kerala: The drive by Saudi to impose the Wahabi culture in India has not been entirely a success. The highest rate of success that they have witnessed is in Kerala. This is a lot to do with the fact that there is a large population of people who go to Saudi in search of employment. Many in Kerala have welcomed with open arms the Wahabi style of preaching and this has let the Saudi controlled lot take control over nearly 75 Mosques in the state.


    The newer Mosques that are coming up in Kerala are also constructed in the manner in which they done in Saudi Arabia. This is just one small indicator of how much people of the state are willing to follow the radical style preached by the Wahabi scholars. Moreover the inflow of funds into Kerala from Saudi is the highest when compared to any other part of the country. It was in Kerala that one got to see posters mourning the death of Osama Bin Laden and also a prayer for Ajmal Kasab after he was hanged. Intelligence Bureau officials tell OneIndia that a large number of youth appear to be attracted to this radical style of Islam, but also add that there are some elders who are trying to oppose it.

    The Wahabi rule book in India: Each time a Wahabi preacher comes to India, he comes in with a rule book. What they intend to do is ensure that the rule book is circulated in the Mosques. However when the administration of the Mosques have opposed this it has led to clashes.


    The rule book has a set of guidelines which need to be ahdhered to failing which the horrific Sharia law would be imposed.

    Here are a couple of guidelines that have been set as per the Wahabi rule book:
    • Shrines shall be forbidden
    • Every Muslim woman should wear purdah or be subject to severe punishment
    • Men have to compulsorily grow beards
    • Women should not be allowed to work. Exception can be made only if the family is in need.
    • Men and women should not mingle together in public.
    • No weeping loudly at funerals.
    • Abide by the Shariat law; every offence committed shall be punishable under this law.
    • All men should wear trousers which are above their ankles.
    • No laughing loudly or listening to music; no dancing or watching television.



    Wahabi universities being set up: The Saudi sponsored Wahabis are aiming to set up their own education system in India as well. Out of the total Rs 1700 crore that has been earmarked for the cause, Rs 800 crore is being spent on setting up Universities in different parts of the country. One such university was seen in Andhra Pradesh as well. Over all they propose to set up 4 such universities which will only cater to Wahabi preachings. With the take over of the existing Mosques becoming extremely difficult, they have earmarked Rs 400 crore to set up 40 Mosques adhering only to Wahabi preachings in different parts of the country. A sum of Rs 300 has been been earmarked to set up Madrasas while the remaining Rs 200 crore has been set aside as miscellaneous costs which also would include bribes to paid off to Mosque authorities as was seen in Maharashtra.


    The birth of the Jamiat Ahl-e-Hadith: The birth of the Jamiat Ahl-e-Hadith took place in India in the state of Jammu and Kashmir. As a first step they wielded their influence on the various Mosques which began preaching the Sharia law as mandated by the Wahabis. The next stop was Maharashtra and Uttar Pradesh following which they began wielding influence heavily in Kerala. The Jamiat Ahl-e-Hadith was the umbrella body which oversaw the flow of Wahabi scholars into India. The same outfit is also making efforts to spread their ideology into Andhra Pradesh, Uttar Pradesh, Bihar and until last year Karantaka. OneIndia News

    Read more at: http://www.oneindia.com/india/wikil...700-crore-wahabi-influence-india-1787820.html
     
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    Boys, girls shouldn’t sit on same benches: Kerala education minister

    Kerala education minister Abdu Rabb said on Tuesday he was against the practice of boys and girls sitting together on same benches in classrooms or on campuses of education institutes, remarks that drew flak from many student groups and activists in the state.


    “I am against it personally. They (boys and girls) can be present in a classroom together, but we can’t insist that they sit together in a bench. No gender discrimination is involved here,” the minister said, and added colleges were free to take a call on the matter.

    The minister was reacting to a controversy over a male student being expelled from a college in Kozhikode (north Kerala) for sitting with girl students.

    Later, Kerala high court had stayed the suspension of the student for a month. A lecturer of the college was expelled last week for questioning the college’s action on social media.

    After Rabb’s remarks, student organisations and activists said his stand will encourage gender discrimination.

    “The minister should withdraw his statement and tender an apology,” said Kerala Students’ Union (Congress’ youth body) state president BS Joy.

    In Kozhikode’s Farook College, nine BA second-year students -- some of them girls -- were sent out of the class in the second week of October after they were found sitting together on same benches.

    Eight students joined classes after authorities summoned their guardians and had talks with them. But, Dinu K did not bring his parents along in defiance of the management’s decision.

    The college suspended him pending a probe before the intervention of the high court.

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...la-minister/story-eqVy6zH7h0QEN5m5snr79L.html
     
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    sorcerer Senior Member Senior Member

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    Kerala to establish Arabic University in the state

    Congress-led UDF government in Kerala has decided to establish an International Arabic University in the state.

    Replying to a calling attention motion in the assembly today to take steps to set up the Arabic University, Education Minister P K Abdu Rabb said the state government has approved the recommendations in this regard given by Higher Education Council.

    As per the Finance Department's request, steps have already been initiated to take details of Arabic colleges in the state, he said while replying to the calling attention motion by P B Abdul Razak of Indian Union Muslim League (IUML).

    Government would take further steps after getting the report on this issue, he said, adding that the Sachar Committee had also pointed out the need to set up an Arabic University.

    The minister said the demand to set up the University was a long standing one. It would also help the large number of people going to Gulf countries in search of jobs, he added.

    Rabb said none considers the English language as one of a particular nation or community. Similarly, Arabic has also become a global language, he said.

    The minister pointed out that December 18 was observed as 'Arabic Language day' as per the call of United Nations. "The arrival of Arabic language in Kerala has resulted in many cultural changes in the state," he added.

    http://www.business-standard.com/ar...c-university-in-the-state-114121700798_1.html
     
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    Nuvneet Kundu Senior Member Senior Member

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    "But what about Dardi?" - Sickulars
     
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    sorcerer Senior Member Senior Member

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    They are waiting to get converted to fuckulars..(when sickulars get fucked by the agenda they supported by being a pussy)
     
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    Absolutely. He had pretty interesting things to say about Hinduism also:

    Osho on Vedas:
    There are four vedas - so utterly childish, so foolish and so full of rubbish....

    http://www.osho.com/iosho/library/r...03dae6-481?p=e7bd5f622efd367d378f764b5cfc7aa2

    Osho on Hinduism:
    I am simply amazed that harijans go on remaining part of the Hindu society. For ten thousand years at least they have been exploited; they are the most exploited and oppressed part of humanity. They should get out of Hinduism, there is no need of any `ism'. They don't have to be Hindus. It is so undignified that the Hindu scriptures deny them the right even to read the scriptures; the Hindu scriptures forbid them to worship in the temples; they are even forbidden to touch Hindus. Not even their shadow should touch any Hindu; otherwise the Hindu has to take a bath to cleanse himself.
    And still those poor people go on remaining part of Hindu society. It seems to be a certain conspiracy between the Hindu priests and the government, that the priests are out protecting their temples and the harijans, who were trying…what harm could they have done? Just worshipping in the temple…and if a Hindu temple is not allowing a certain section of society, then certainly that section should separate itself from such humiliation. bolt03


    http://www.oshoworld.com/biography/innercontent.asp?FileName=biography10/10-51-hindus.txt
     
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    maomao Veteran Hunter of Maleecha Senior Member

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    Osho is correct on islam; however, Vedanta and Hindu philosophy is way complicated for even Osho to decipher leave any rabid genocidal mullah! ;)
     
  19. Bornubus

    Bornubus Senior Member Senior Member

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    That is his personal opinion,he is no authority of Hindu philosophy and religion.Even i can form my new cult new principles, why would Harijans need to listen to him they have their own icons like Ambedkar who embraced another Indian Dharmic religion Buddhism.

    And how many Hindus follow him probably .1 % out of 1 billion.
     
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  20. maomao

    maomao Veteran Hunter of Maleecha Senior Member

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    However Osho is correct on islam! :D
     
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    What is his opinion about Islam,I am curious.
     

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