Visiting Russian Defence Minsiter touts Su35, S400 and IL76 upgrades

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    [video]http://news.cntv.cn/world/20121121/109183.shtml[/video]
    China, Russia to enhance military ties
    China's vice chairman of the CPC Central Military Commission Xu Qiliang has met with the visiting Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu in Beijing.
    Xu says China is ready to work with Russia to promote pragmatic exchanges and cooperation that will benefit both militaries. He added that China highly values its strategic partnership with Russia. China would also like to work with Russia to implement the consensus reached by the two countries’ leaders on further developing military relations.
    The Russian minister agreed the countries share many common interests and mutual trust. He said their partnership is growing smoothly, with two joint military exercises conducted this year.
    Shoigu added that Russia is ready to increase cooperation and make greater contributions to Sino-Russian ties.

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    China's vice chairman of the CPC Central Military Commission Xu Qiliang has met with the visiting Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu in Beijing.
     
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    Re: Visiting Russian Defence Minsiter touts Su35, S400 and IL76 upgrad

    Russian claimed that Su35 S is able to detect F22, F35 from a distance of 150-200 KM. China has purchased 52 Mi-171 Chopper from Russia.
     
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    Same video, from 00:18:10, they semi-confirmed, J15 successfully landed on Liaoning. the following steps are to improve efficiency in multiple landing and taking off.
    Experts are expecting Russian navy aviation can share experience.
     
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    I am for buying 24 or 48 Su-35s and have them based in Tibet。

    After all,112's production capacity can't meet the demand now that it has been tasked to build J-11B/BS、J-15/15S and J-16.

    The purchase,if realized,also makes political sense and is valid from the point of view of balancing the Sino-Russian trade。

    Hey,we may even learn a thing or two technologically。
     
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    Why both of them seem to be wearing military uniforms? They are ministers right?
     
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    Re: Visiting Russian Defence Minsiter touts Su35, S400 and IL76 upgrad

    Apparently in these two countries the defence minister is usually served by a military officer instead of by a civilian.
     
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    Where does that put India?
     
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    Re: Visiting Russian Defence Minsiter touts Su35, S400 and IL76 upgrad

    And that chinese guy is apparently not a minister either. Matters little to the discussion though as the defence minister in china is also an active military officer and he is subordinate to the chairman/vice-chairmans of the CMC.
     
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    Re: Visiting Russian Defence Minsiter touts Su35, S400 and IL76 upgrad

    I dont recall you asking that when Russia selling weapons to India? It is all just business.
     
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    It doesn't put India anywhere. We have to mind our own business. We don't like it,then slowly we have to move out of it.
     
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    China and Russia are very likely to reach one or two big deals during the visit of Russian defence minister.
     
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    Re: Visiting Russian Defence Minsiter touts Su35, S400 and IL76 upgrad

    Big aircraft deals ?
     
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    Re: Visiting Russian Defence Minsiter touts Su35, S400 and IL76 upgrad

    That is almost affirmative, but don't what else is China gonna buy and Russia is willing to sell?
     
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    Re: Visiting Russian Defence Minsiter touts Su35, S400 and IL76 upgrad

    If we buy Su35 S, I bet they will be stationed to east coast, US has armed Japan with F35 and stationed their F22 around China. Before J21 , J32 enter to active service, Su 35 can be very useful to counter balance their presence.
     
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    Re: Visiting Russian Defence Minsiter touts Su35, S400 and IL76 upgrad

    But why does China want the Su-35BM? It claims to have perfected the J-11 version of Su-27 already along with indigenous engines planned. Sorry but this is the info I get from posters in a forum run by our dear western neighbors.

    Isn't this purchase simply a waste of money if indeed J-11 has matured as the PLAAF and posters claim?
     
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    Re: Visiting Russian Defence Minsiter touts Su35, S400 and IL76 upgrad

    Greed of man never ends Tshering bhai and the chinese want to make a comparison between their design and that of the Russian.......
     
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    Re: Visiting Russian Defence Minsiter touts Su35, S400 and IL76 upgrad

    You should ask this question to one very senior member named P2Prada who says that India and Russia are strategic partners. If you prod him further he will say even india and china are strategic partners since we are buying and using same russian fighters
     
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    Re: Visiting Russian Defence Minsiter touts Su35, S400 and IL76 upgrad

    Su 35 S not BM, the major concern is we don't have enough factories to make new fighters to replace the batch retiring J8II and J7s.
    other concerns include:
    1. Balancing sino-russian trade.
    2. Learn 117S engine
    3. Counterbalance F22 and F35 before J21 and 31 enter service.
     
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    Re: Visiting Russian Defence Minsiter touts Su35, S400 and IL76 upgrad

    Russians are very concerned about the rise of China.

    Their eastern regions are causing Russia problems since there is a lot of interaction between the peoples of that region and China. In fact, they are getting dependent on China for much of their requirements.

    The Russians will not undertake ToT, but selling stuff means money and Russia is cash strapped.

    The Russians are also smarting under the loss of face that they are not anywhere close to being the superpower they were and that China, which was a junior partner, has turned the tables on Russia.

    The Russians are equally fierce nationalist and jingoist as the Chinese, because Communism instills a feeling of being über alles.
     
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    Re: Visiting Russian Defence Minsiter touts Su35, S400 and IL76 upgrad

    Ray I agree with the money hungry Russian part but China is also a big customer for Russia -It does
    not seem like they are so concerned about the Chinese incursions?
     
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