Visa row ends: Canada regrets, India says chapter closed

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  1. Oracle

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    Canadian denial of visas to Indian Servicemen and Security Personel

    In a shocking diplomatic gaffe, the Canadian High Commission in New Delhi has dubbed Border Security Force as a "notoriously violent force" engaged in "systematic torture", prompting India to join issues with that country.

    The high commission, while denying visa to one Fateh Singh Pandher, a retired constable of BSF, has written to him that his status was "inadmissible" as he had served in a force that engaged in "systematic attacks on civilians".

    In his strongly-worded response to Pandher's visa application, a first secretary with the mission here has said BSF was a "notoriously violent force", which was responsible for "systematic attacks on civilians" and "systematic torture of the suspected criminals".

    The high commission official has suggested to Pandher that he should have dissociated from the force to qualify for the visa.
    Contacted, External Affairs Ministry spokesman Vishnu Prakash said, "The matter has come to the attention of MEA and it has been appropriately taken up with the Canadian side."

    Pandher, who got the response in December last year, approached BSF which wrote to the home ministry, which in turn informed the MEA.

    "The MHA received a representation from the BSF. We have sent that representation along with our views to the MEA for further action," a home ministry spokesman said.

    http://news.rediff.com/report/2010/may/21/for-canada-bsf-is-a-violent-force.htm
     
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    tarunraju Moderator Moderator

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    Every security force is a violent force. Nobody is going to greet terrorists with flowers and welcome drinks, especially when they're disguised as civilians. Naturally terrorists aren't going to come in their stereotypical haji costumes, and naturally there are bound to be false-positives. How many false-positives did the NATO forces not have in Iraq and Afghanistan (where innocent civilians were mistaken for insurgent)?

    Will Canada have the balls to deny visa to an Englishman who's serving in his army on grounds that he is associated with a violent force that kills and tortures innocent civilians in Iraq? No, of course they wouldn't. Stupid canucks.
     
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  4. Oracle

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    Are they morons or what? BSF is for border security and elimination of illegal infiltrators and terrorists are part of their duty. And BSF involved in killing and tortures? My arse.
    They should see the situation here in India because of terrorists from Pakistan and illegal immigrants from Bangladesh and then whine.
     
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    This is highly ridiculous and highly condemnable. A person on that seat cant spray his words like that. 'No smoke without fire!!!'
     
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    These are the thinking and works of educated western intellectual fools. Most cannot even differentiate between terrorists and separatists. No wonder why this century will be Asia's.
     
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    What? Yes, right – BSF is responsible for Kashmir violence – says Canada

    Canada calls BSF 'violent force'; denies visa to ex-trooper

    Srinagar, May 21st: In a stunning development, Canadian High Commission has accused the Indian Border Security Force of being anti human and is solely responsible for the violence that is going on in the Kashmir valley. In fact, the Canadian authorities have rejected a visa application of an ex BSF employee on the ground that they have been carrying on attacks on the innocent civilians in the valley.
    Pandher, a retired jawan of the BSF, immediately took up the matter with the Director General of the BSF and has requested him to take up the matter with appropriate authority and at the appropriate place.
    The matter was immediately reported to the Union Home ministry and they in turn, informed the Ministry of External Affairs about the developments and asked it to take up the matter with the concerned Canadian authorities.



    By JIT MukherjiiSrinagar, May 21st: In a stunning development, Canadian High Commission has accused the Indian Border Security Force of being anti human and is solely responsible for the violence that is going on in the Kashmir valley. In fact, the Canadian authorities have rejected a visa application of an ex BSF employee on the ground that they have been carrying on attacks on the innocent civilians in the valley.Pandher, a retired jawan of the BSF, immediately took up the matter with the Director General of the BSF and has requested him to take up the matter with appropriate authority and at the appropriate place.The matter was immediately reported to the Union Home ministry and they in turn, informed the Ministry of External Affairs about the developments and asked it to take up the matter with the concerned Canadian authorities.




    This is ridicules what next they will be banning the state police forces for fighting the Maoists.
     
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    Agantrope Senior Member Senior Member

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    I cant stop my laugh. Do these people really gone nuts after the recession??

    If BSF is on a killing spree then what the hell is PA and PLA is doing? OMG, BSF will let do their work.
     
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    Leave it guys the Canadians are a bunch of sissy's who dont live in a dangerous hood like us so the can have their pie dreamland
     
  10. maomao

    maomao Veteran Hunter of Maleecha Senior Member

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    No doubt, in recent past these pussy canadians were doing simulations in their country on the event of India - pakistan war and eventual pakistan's defeat/surrender/annihilation and the riots which may follow, they are afraid of pakis and islamists so much, that they had to run these stupid exercises! No doubt canada is the next safe haven for jihadis/Khalistanis after pakistan and afghanistan, however BSF is a Brute Force!!!! =xD
     
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    Mohawk Native's would say something else about these Canadians for killing indeginous Native's entire Race.


    Time for U.N to declare canadians the nazis of west.
     
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    We have great respect for India's armed forces: Canada

    In an attempt to control damage caused by stinging remarks by one of its diplomats against BSF, Canada on Saturday said it has "great respect" for India's armed forces and that it was "reviewing the situation" that has arisen.

    Canada's Foreign Ministry spokesperson Catherine Loubier said in an e-mail statement that "vibrant people-to-people" connections are one of the "greatest strengths" of India-Canada relations which continue to be strengthened.

    "I would like to stress that Canada has the highest regard for India's democratic institutions and processes.

    Canada has great respect for India's armed forces and related institutions," she said in the statement mailed to PTI.

    The statement came in the wake of revelation of remarks of a First Secretary of the Canadian High Commission in New Delhi that BSF was a "notoriously violent" force which indulged in "systematic attack" and "systematic torture" of suspected criminals.

    The diplomat had made the comments while rejecting the visa application of a retired BSF constable.

    The External Affairs Ministry has already taken up the issue with the Canadian government. "We are reviewing the situation," the Canadian spokesperson said but did not elaborate citing "privacy reasons"

    Loubier said India is a country with growing influence on the global stage and "our past has been marked by friendship and by strong ties that bind us closer than ever. We are also democratic nations that are ethnically, spiritually and linguistically diverse."

    She noted that the Indo-Canadian community is approximately one million strong and makes significant contributions to the strength of Canada's economy as well as to people-to-people links between our two countries.

    The Canada-India ties continue to strengthen following the very successful visit to India by a strong delegation led by Prime Minister Stephen Harper last November, she said.

    With regard to visas, Loubier said decisions are made by public servants following an independent process governed by the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act.
     
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    For me the BSF is not violent as it should be. They need to be even more pro active and pre emptive. How many BSF men have lost their lives in unprovoked firing from the Pakistanis and Bangladeshi rangers? But the BSF silently bears it only lodging protests, The Canadians are just one bunch of holier than thou people who sit pretty under the US umbrella and spout anything they want.
     
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    Jesus Christ so many anti-Canadian sentiment. I can guarantee shes just spouting her typical liberal politics which are obviously not the view of all Canadians.
    btw just so you know we have an army for a reason and also we have a defence budget for a reason so I guarantee you we are not under the umbrella of anyone.
     
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    Indians have a tolerance level unparalleled in this world. Statements on this thread are not anti-canadian, but pro India. We hate no one.

    What you failed to convey is the reason for the stupid comment from the Canadian High Commission in the first place. Living under the US umbrella came much later in this thread.
     
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    Liberal? Joke of the day ..
    Since when immigration decisions are made upon someone's personal opinion. Every single immigration decision is made per Immigration act and under the discretionary guidelines of Foreign ministry. Gutless Canadian Govt. has defamed my brave soldiers guarding our borders restlessly in worst extreme circumstance and hostility by neighbours any security forces on this earth could face.

    I demand immigration officer to be kicked out with Ca Foreign Minister resigning from his portfolio. My two thumbs down for pseudo liberal Canadian Govt...
     
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    Drat I regret having visited Canada and for even having set foot on its soil! Never again!

    Let's see here, these people have the "queen" for a ruler, head of state in exact terms. This queen and her ancestors are guilty for some of the most unspeakable human rights excesses in this world. their imperialistic policy has led to millions of deaths and impoverishing of countries like India and China. People who engaged in slave trade, racism, imperialism today give us lectures on how "cruel" the BSF is? I don't want to use the word shame, this is something beyond that. And how are our Babus reacting to this? Kick them Canadians out and bring in a major freeze in the relations. Teach 'em a lesson they will never forget! First we had to put up with the nonsense spat out by the Australians and now we have the Canadians! Them Lap dogs for the Americans are noisy indeed!
     
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    I think it is just an overzealous individual exceeding his brief.

    Send him packing from the country and register a strong protest.
     
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    At least they dont vaporize people from air like the west/NaTO does with precision guided depleted uranium bombs and artillery shells in iraq/afghanistan or they did in vietnam by nalph. Say you a thing the champions of human rights west is actually the worst violators of it.As the say in hindi chiraag tale andhera( darkness beneath the lamp).
     
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    [video]http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=430_1271352469&c=1[/video] this is what these Canadians are doing in Afghanistan with their master USA
     
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    hit&run Elite Member Elite Member

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    Another one for any Canadian who know how to ready this:

    over_fir.jpg

    http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/UN/peace.html

     

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