Villages across China

[bennedose]

I'm glad u take mine as poetry. When u mention CCP "1960s ballets" where the future promised everything benign and beautiful, yeah in the same way, people were shocked Zhou Enlai spoke of "Four Modernization of China" in 1970s and Deng said China "would become a developed country by the mid of 21st Century".

Uprooting Chinese society? How? Another fearmongering jibe? I'd like to quote myself that part u didn't quote >>> Chinese civilization is reinforced in being accommodating to changes as a pace-setter of its own.

And " indigenous elements are embodied at the core" -- in order to visualize how it's done I showcase architecture of a universitat building with "indigenous" and "western" styles combined.

China overpopulated and polluted? Another favourite cliche of Indian posters when u refuse to look into the fact that India is more populated, and polluted despite not as industrialized.

Fearmongering! You mean some random guy on DFI can cause "fear" among Chinese by pointing out facts? . Surely you must be joking.

The photo simply adds a Chinese appearance to a western style. More important than one token building are the western style glass and concrete cities that China has built.

China is overpopulated and polluted. Chinese don't like to hear that from Indians that's all. There are some geographical issues that you cannot avoid. India had 48% Arable land. China has only 11%. Per capita water supply and consumption and pollution of water are significant issues. If this is fearmongering - you need to be afraid. You guys are copying the wasteful west and have not come up with any innovation like your ancestors used to do. Are you guys going down with pride?

 

[bennedose]

Chou en Lai was the biggest colonized mind of China. He was the prototype. He laid the foundation for China to run after western ideals except for the political system - which as "Marxism" was sort of western I guess.

If you look at a series of Chinese actions since the 1950s - China has faithfully copied and emulated the west and is trying to sneak up from behind the west and prove that they can beat the west in being western.

Great. But where is China? What I see is only a mock China that looks up to western ideals. Chinese culture and and innovation are gone. In fact colonization and the industrial revolution were sparked off by gunpowder and the magnetic compass. Both from China. Now the Chinese are outdoing themselves in copying the west and do it with the arrogant pride of a stable boy getting a bedroom in his master's house.

 

[Ray]

@bennedose's posts are more illustratively real than any others on the issue of China.

 

[amoy]

Fearmongering! You mean some random guy on DFI can cause "fear" among Chinese by pointing out facts? . Surely you must be joking.

The photo simply adds a Chinese appearance to a western style. More important than one token building are the western style glass and concrete cities that China has built.

China is overpopulated and polluted. Chinese don't like to hear that from Indians that's all. There are some geographical issues that you cannot avoid. India had 48% Arable land. China has only 11%. Per capita water supply and consumption and pollution of water are significant issues. If this is fearmongering - you need to be afraid. You guys are copying the wasteful west and have not come up with any innovation like your ancestors used to do. Are you guys going down with pride?

How comes 48% arable land - India produces less than 11% arable - China?

What's gone wrong? Why can't Indians make it in spite of all the blessings??

 

[bennedose]

How comes 48% arable land - India produces less than 11% arable - China?

What's gone wrong? Why can't Indians make it in spite of all the blessings??

That is easily explained sir. Please check the fertilizer usage per hectare in China and see this link
https://www.chinadialogue.net/artic...th-about-Chinese-fertiliser-and-pesticide-use

Overuse of fertilisers and pesticides is causing pollution and food safety problems. What's more, Chinese agriculture has now become reliant on these chemicals.

"If China used one half of the fertiliser it used currently there wouldn't be any problems," said Zheng Fengtian, a professor at the School of Agricultural Economics and Rural Development of the Renmin University of China in Beijing.

How bad is the overuse of fertiliser on Chinese fields? Figures from the Chinese Academy of Agricultural Sciences' (CAAS) Soil and Fertiliser Institute show that in one-half of Chinese regions, average levels of nitrogen fertiliser use exceed the internationally accepted limit of 225kg per hectare.

Copying the US-style farming system

China claims an agricultural culture stretching back five millennia. But while in the past this culture worked in accordance with nature, now everything relies on chemicals.

Zheng Fengtian explains that current methods are heavily influenced by the US: "In the past a rural family would keep cows and use dung as fertiliser, with chemical fertilisers rarely used, which was good for the environment. But now very few cows are kept, as weedkillers have killed off the grass they eat. Many farmers have gone to the cities to work, with agriculture now mechanised and relying on fertiliser and pesticide, which ruins the soil. It's a big problem."

 

[kenduffy]

Chinese villages

 

[kenduffy]

 

[kenduffy]

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not real

 

[nirranj]

How comes 48% arable land - India produces less than 11% arable - China?

What's gone wrong? Why can't Indians make it in spite of all the blessings??

Arable land (% of land area)
Arable land includes land defined by the FAO as land under temporary crops (double-cropped areas are counted once), temporary meadows for mowing or for pasture, land under market or kitchen gardens, and land temporarily fallow. Land abandoned as a result of shifting cultivation is excluded.

China has 12% of Land that is arable. that translates into 11,51,635.32 Sq KM.

India Has 52% arable land. That translates into 16,46,976.76 Sq KM.

Arable land (% of land area) | Data | Table

Agricultural land (% of land area)
Agricultural land refers to the share of land area that is arable, under permanent crops, and under permanent pastures. Arable land includes land defined by the FAO as land under temporary crops (double-cropped areas are counted once), temporary meadows for mowing or for pasture, land under market or kitchen gardens, and land temporarily fallow. Land abandoned as a result of shifting cultivation is excluded. Land under permanent crops is land cultivated with crops that occupy the land for long periods and need not be replanted after each harvest, such as cocoa, coffee, and rubber. This category includes land under flowering shrubs, fruit trees, nut trees, and vines, but excludes land under trees grown for wood or timber. Permanent pasture is land used for five or more years for forage, including natural and cultivated crops.

China Has 55% Agricultural land. that translates into 52,78,328.55 Sq KM. This is 166% of India's total land area.

India Has 60% agricultural land. That translates into 19,00,357.8 Sq KM.

Agricultural land (% of land area) | Data | Table

Obviously India's productivity will be very low as India has to use the 1.9 million sq.KM for every agricultural activity. While China has the luxury of using the Arable land of 11.5 Million Sq Km for growing food crops alone and use the remaining 41 Million Sq Km for fruits, livestock, cattle, and other agricultural activities.

 

[nirranj]

Meanwhile China emits 6.2 tonnes of CO2 per capita while India emits 1.7 Tonnes of Co2 per capita.

Obviously China is more populus than India and so the net CO2 emission from China is nearly four times that of India.

So the country with the most polluted Air award among India and China goes to China.

CO2 emissions (metric tons per capita) | Data | Table

 

[kenduffy]

Meanwhile China emits 6.2 tonnes of CO2 per capita while India emits 1.7 Tonnes of Co2 per capita.

Obviously China is more populus than India and so the net CO2 emission from China is nearly four times that of India.

So the country with the most polluted Air award among India and China goes to China.

CO2 emissions (metric tons per capita) | Data | Table

Cities in India Among the Most Polluted, W.H.O. Says

 

[kenduffy]

villagers' home

 

[bennedose]

Why are these people waring several layers of warm clothes in these homes? No heating?

 

[kenduffy]

Why are these people waring several layers of warm clothes in these homes? No heating?

I don't know

since these peasants move into new houses in recent years, it may take several years to build heating systems for the villages
and these poor villagers may want to save money so as not to use air-conditioner when it is not super cold

 

[prohumanity]

I am glad to see the hardwork of Chinese people creating comfortable life for millions of Chinese. No One should be jealous of Chinese development. I applaud their effort and wish them well. An ancient civilization just like India, China is going to emerge as great neighbor of India . Let 2.4 billion Chinese and Indians live in peace and harmony and pull the world out of poverty and ignorance and end the hegemony of narcissistic ,arrogant ,imperialist minds.

 

[bennedose]

I am glad to see the hardwork of Chinese people creating comfortable life for millions of Chinese. No One should be jealous of Chinese development. I applaud their effort and wish them well. An ancient civilization just like India, China is going to emerge as great neighbor of India . Let 2.4 billion Chinese and Indians live in peace and harmony and pull the world out of poverty and ignorance and end the hegemony of narcissistic ,arrogant ,imperialist minds.

It is silly to be jealous of China. Better to be jealous of USA no? The real point is that western nations and colonizer nations (includes Japan) started their industrial development before populations exploded. India and China started after populations exploded. . What this means is that rapid industrialization is leading to environmetal degradation. No one in the world really cares about pretty villags. People worry about environmental degradation.

What kick ass technologies is China developing to build energy efficient homes (or villages) that are self sufficient or nearly self sufficient in water and power supply? If China has done that India could buy from China or copy China. Right now China is simply copying America and using the same old techniques.

India needs to take a far more energy efficient and water conserving route than China. Copying China or copying USA are not the best policy.

 

[bennedose]

The village homes with TVs and nice kitchens pictured do not reveal if the homes have thermally efficient walls and windows. Is anything being done in every village that ensures that the village at least partially meets its own energy requirements using solar, wind or garbage generated electricity, or whether the national power grid is tapped for power?

For a country like India these are more important than pretty village homes which Chinese can look at and say "Wow - we are just like Europe - the 4 modernizations and 25 gaandmastis have worked"

 

[Ray]

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not real

Are they computer generated.

Well, generate yourself this way to Rajarhat and have a look see.

Then, tell us.

I have been there many a time being a local.

 

[Ray]

Lands in Rajarhat New Town Goes for Whopping Prices

However, this is not the first time Kolkata is witness such breaking records for land sales. In 2009, a Dubai based real estate major bought a 6.2 acre plot for a massive Rs. 209 crore along EM Bypass to Dubai from KMDA. A five star hotel project is in pipeline here with the land selling for Rs. 33 crore per acre.
IndiaProperty Blog � Lands in Rajarhat New Town Goes for Whopping Prices

This photograph is contained in the above link.

Now call all these photographs as also computer generated

@kendaffy

 

[kenduffy]

The village homes with TVs and nice kitchens pictured do not reveal if the homes have thermally efficient walls and windows. Is anything being done in every village that ensures that the village at least partially meets its own energy requirements using solar, wind or garbage generated electricity, or whether the national power grid is tapped for power?

until the end of 2013, there are 1.23 million ppl in China have no access to electricity, coz these ppl are living in an area which are isolated by mountains, Tibet Plateaus, blabla. China plans to cover these areas until 2015 to get 100% coverage. So in nearly all villages they get power from national power grid. Solar panel cost is still more expensive than electricity from grid and thus is not popular. Running water is not a problem.