Vietnam plans live-fire drill amid South China Sea row

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    Vietnam plans live-fire drill amid South China Sea row



    Vietnam has said it will hold live-fire exercises in the South China Sea amid escalating tensions with China over disputed waters.

    Vietnam warned vessels to stay out of the area off its central coast when it conducts the drills on Monday.

    It follows a verbal clash with China over sovereignty in the area.

    China reacted angrily after Vietnam said a Chinese fishing boat rammed cables from an oil exploration vessel inside its exclusive economic zone.

    Beijing said Chinese fishing boats were chased away by armed Vietnamese ships in the incident on Thursday.

    One of the Chinese boats became tangled with the cables of a Vietnamese oil exploring vessel, which continued to drag the Chinese vessel for more than an hour before the net had to be cut, the foreign ministry said.

    China accused Vietnam of "gravely violating" its sovereignty, saying Vietnam's actions had endangered Chinese sailors' lives, and warned it to stop "all invasive activities".

    'Premeditated'
    Beijing's strong-worded statement followed Vietnam's accusation that a Chinese fishing boat had "intentionally rammed" the exploration cables of a Vietnamese boat - the second such incident in two weeks.

    Vietnam said the "premeditated and carefully calculated" attack was part of China's attempts to control disputed waters.

    Vietnam now says it will stage live ammunition drills on Monday in an area off central Quang Nam province.

    The announcement was made on Friday on the website of the state-owned Northern Maritime Safety Co-operation, warning all vessels to avoid the area.

    It said the decision to hold the exercises was taken on 7 June.

    China is engaged in maritime border disputes with several countries.

    The South China Sea includes important shipping routes and may contain rich oil and gas deposits.

    The Philippines, Malaysia, Brunei and Taiwan also have rival claims in the area. The US has also expressed concern about China's rising naval ambitions.
     
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    If only the ASEAN claimants to the Spratlys group of islands can come to a mutual benificial solution then they can confront China. But splintered, they're relatively lightweight as individuals.
     
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    Chinese plot is to entice every ASEAN country to negotiate separately the Spratley's problem . Every ASEAN is weaker before China, off course . For the best, the nations like Philippine, Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei ... should unify the interests in Spratley .East Sea (ex called China Sea) must be recognised as the benefits for many other countries (including Japan, Korea, Taiwan ...) , for the international free sea traffic . Any force, any nation want to dominate this area for just its own interest is unacceptable. The tension of a conflict , unstabilise of this region is higher and higher , specially in recent time when Chinese ships continuously intimidate Philippine and Vietnamese ships.
     
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    If oil is the main reason for fight for sea then why not these minor countries form a conglomerate to explore oil and share the profit . united they have a chance to kick china out . Else they cannot do anything to get out of China grip.
     
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    In fact China employs "divide and deal with" tactics. Not all ASEAN nations are involved as claimed. The main rivals China focuses on are VN and PH, especially VN who's occupied the most and actively drilled for big revenue... By confronting VN China doesn't only assert sovereignty over disputed waters, but also scares away VN's Western partners (Shell alike) who have deep sea exploration capabilities. Besides - http://defenceforumindia.com/china-...china-uses-new-oil-drill-weapon-disputed.html
     
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    Thats why SAARC should become more like E.U. We need all the countries of South and South-east Asia to become an union so that we can take on any bully like China,US or NATO.
     
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    This's good idea for the weak nations before any invasion of the stronger ! Unite to make force !
     
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    Yes, i think if all the SAARC countries along with India unite as one body like EU then it could take on any large force either economically or militarily!
     
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    Vietnam bolsters military stance amid China marine row



    Vietnam's Prime Minister Nguyen Tan Dung has issued a decree about a potential military call-up, amid rising tension with China.
    The decree outlines who would be exempt from military draft if war broke out.
    Vietnam has conducted live-ammunition exercises in the sea adjacent to the waters it disputes with China.
    The area is thought to be rich in natural resources, and Hanoi has accused Beijing of harassing its oil exploration ships.
    The new decree was signed by the prime minister at the request of the Ministry of Defence.
    It is believed to serve two purposes - the first is to placate nationalists who have been agitating against China's policy towards Vietnam, and calling the government response too weak.
    The second is clearly aimed at China itself, whose increasingly assertive actions in the South China Sea are perceived to be hurting Vietnam's political and economic interests.
    The last time Vietnam fought a war was with China in 1979.
    The sabre-rattling this time sends a clear signal that Hanoi will not shy away from taking up force again to defend its "sovereignty and territorial integrity".
     
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    I understand these reaction of VN are normal , defensive, after a lot of Chinese's provocations had been implemented systematically from several years ago (not only in recent times) .
     
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    China has said it will not resort to the use of force to resolve maritime border disputes in the South China Sea.

    Several Asian nations claim territory in the South China Sea, which includes important shipping routes and may contain oil and gas deposits.

    On Monday, Vietnam staged live-fire drills after weeks of rising tensions between the two nations.

    Vietnam has also issued a decree specifying who would be exempt from military call-up in a time of war.

    "We will not resort to the use of force or the threat of force," Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Hong Lei said.

    He condemned any action that would exacerbate the dispute, and urged those involved to "do more that is beneficial to regional peace and stability".

    As well as Vietnam, the Philippines, Malaysia, Brunei and Taiwan also have rival claims in the area.

    As chair of the regional grouping Asean last year, Hanoi actively promoted a multilateral approach to the problem. However, Beijing says it prefers to negotiate with individual states separately.

    Responsibility
    In an apparent message to China that Vietnam is willing to stand its ground, the Vietnamese government issued a decree earlier specifying which people would be exempt from military service during a time of war.

    The decree lists eight examples where Vietnamese citizens would not be obliged to join a military call-up. They include people holding senior positions in state organisations and those providing essential services such as lighthouse operators.

    The BBC's South East Asia correspondent Rachel Harvey says the significance lies not in the exemptions themselves but in the timing of the decree.

    The news comes a day after the Vietnamese navy conducted exercises it described as routine, but which at least one Chinese newspaper interpreted as a deliberate show of force.

    Vietnam is engaged in a renewed row with China over sovereignty of two groups of islands in the South China Sea; the Spratly and Paracel islands.

    Tensions have escalated following two separate confrontations involving Vietnamese and Chinese boats in recent weeks.

    In a thinly veiled reference to Hanoi, Mr Hong implied Vietnam was to blame for the recent row.

    "Some country took unilateral actions to impair China's sovereignty and maritime rights and interests, and released groundless and irresponsible remarks with the attempt to expand and complicate the issue of the South China Seas," Mr Hong said.

    "This is where the problem lies."

    The US has also expressed concern about China's rising naval ambitions in the region.

    On Sunday, the Japan-based carrier USS George Washington left port for deployment in the region, which is almost certain to include the South China Sea.
     
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    The feature of chinese tactic is to make anything in entire surprise over the opposites, to pose them in already situation. So, the're a big gap between what it said and what it will do.
    China have occupied by force Paracels island from VN in 1974, all by surprise !
    No way to believe Mr Hong or Mr Liang speak. Should be aware !
     
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    China sends patrol ship into disputed South China Sea

    China has sent one of it largest patrol ships through the South China Sea amid heightened tension over the disputed waters.
    The Haixun-31 sailed on Wednesday and will monitor shipping and "protect maritime security" on its way to Singapore, state media said.
    A Chinese foreign ministry spokesman described the trip as routine.
    Several Asian nations claim territory in the waters that include shipping lanes and may contain oil and gas.
    The Philippines and Vietnam recently accused Chinese vessels of aggressive actions in the South China Sea.
    On Monday Vietnam staged a live-fire exercise in the area which Chinese state media denounced as a military show of force.
    The 3,000-tonne Haixun-31, operated by the Chinese Maritime Safety Administration, will pass near the Paracel and Spratly island groups. officials said. The islands are at the heart of disputes with other governments.
    The official Beijing Daily newspaper said the ship - which has a helicopter pad and can stay at sea for up to 40 days - would monitor shipping, carry out surveying, inspect oil wells and "protect maritime security".
    Earlier this week, Beijing said it would not resort to the use of force to resolve its maritime border disputes.
    Vietnam, China, the Philippines, Taiwan, Brunei and Malaysia have competing claims to the Spratlys while Beijing and Hanoi are in dispute over the Paracels.
    Hanoi, which chaired the regional grouping Asean last year, has actively promoted a multilateral solution. However, China says it prefers to negotiate with individual states separately.
     
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    Pressure Pressure ...... pressure games :)
    There were wars on religion ... there were wars on nationality .. there were wars on politics/ideology .. now the wars are on oil, water and other natural resources.

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    WWIII would be for natural resources.
     
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    Learn a Lesson or two from the Vietnamese , my dear Indians. They dont even have 1/10th of our capability, but the message is send! Bravo!
     
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    PRC is not china,ROC is real china.dragon will soon die i the hands of lion

    :lca:china is aiming towards destruction of its own power!,y cant u people be calm,u r arming the terrorist nations,terror groups,claiming other nation's territory.u(china) r not the real follower of communism,USSR was a real communist nation,u r just dumbing ur people and their freedom,dragon has chosen its bad fate
     

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