Vietnam accuses China boat of firing at fishing vessel

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  1. Yusuf

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    HANOI (AFP) - Vietnam on Monday accused a Chinese vessel of firing on one of its fishing boats in disputed waters, denouncing the incident as a "serious violation" of its territorial sovereignty.

    The Vietnamese boat was fishing near the contested Paracel Islands last Wednesday when it was "chased and shot at by a Chinese vessel, causing a fire in the cabin," foreign ministry spokesman Luong Thanh Nghi said.

    "Vietnam strongly protests, urging China to investigate and seriously deal with the wrongful and inhumane act and compensate Vietnamese fishermen for their loss," Mr Nghi said in a statement on the ministry's website.

    It did not say what kind of Chinese vessel was involved.
    http://www.straitstimes.com/breakin...s-chinese-boat-firing-fishing-vessel-20130325
     
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  3. asianobserve

    asianobserve Elite Member Elite Member

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    Peaceful rise my arse! A full blown confrontation is now underway in SEA. Expect a rapid militarization in the area in the next 20 years. China is actually trying to rush to establish itself in these disputed areas before Vietnam or the Philippines are able to fully assemble a credible deterrent force. Expect China to be brash as it try to assert itself and there will be more skirmishes like this one.
     
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    satish007 Senior Member Senior Member

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    this boat QNg96382 have stolen fish couple times, we did not arrest them nor detain the boat.
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    we insist rising peacefully.
    that's an incident, we don't want them get fire.
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  5. asianobserve

    asianobserve Elite Member Elite Member

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    So you fire at fishing boats based on the accusation that the fishermen "stole" fish? Stole from whom, from the sea? Besides, is this Chinese style justice? I think if the accusation is illegal fishing then the boat should be confiscated or at least the fish contained therein not fire at it... but if you insist on this line of reasoning then you must have a bunch of morons for an audience (or you think the World is populated by morons) since logic evades this excuse.

    It's either that the incident is isolated and is a product of a trigger happy psycho Chinese naval captain who should be court martialled (for inciting this very serious incident) or that this firing incident is part of the policy of China to assert its claim over the contested territories by scaring Vietnam into submission. There are no other explanations.
     
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    you should happy, we are mess with VN and PH, both of them are having problems with you.
    VN have 6 very good submarines, 20+ Su30MK2 more power than you.
     
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    Why should we be happy? If you get all that you want in these conflicts then that would only embolden your country and military to ask for more from your smaller countries. Now it's these small islands, who knows what's next since you're claiming the whole of SCS as your own? There should be no Chamberlaine moment in Asia for China.
     
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    Firing to non-armed fishing boat is an outlawed behaviour in any sense. Does China treat with other neighbor countries by this unique way? Fire, fire,fire !!!!. It's look like the pirate actions and not of a civilized china of 21st century. Never acceptable !
     
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    s002wjh Senior Member Senior Member

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    its likely a warning shot. if they really fire on the ship, it should be sink now. if the fishing ship was consider illegal, and run away, coast guard CAN fire upon the ships. US coast guard will fire on civilian ships if they didn't stop when order to.
     
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    You don't even have to read the article, just look at one of the photos attached above, it shows a burned out crew cabin. Now would a warning shot burn down a boat's crew cabin?

    And if you have read the article above you would have read this part:

     
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  11. Armand2REP

    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    How can Vietnamese fishing boats steal fish from their own EEZ?
     
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    s002wjh Senior Member Senior Member

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    oh come on VN, china, PH play these kind thing all the time. i remember some time ago vietnam ram some chinese boat, and few month-yr back they did the same to PH or was it mala boat. China is not the only party harassing other countries boat, all the claim party do it. Japan just force to board a ship and arrest the chinese captain a month before. so don't play the victim here when all of you doing the same to each other.
     
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    because that area is disputed and china is not recognize that area as vietnam EEZ but theirs. same reason japan coast guard capture some chinese fishing boat
     
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    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    China ratiified UNCLOS which puts it in Vietnam's EEZ. If they want to unrecognise it they are fully welcome to exit the UN and hand over their UNSC seat.
     
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    yes let me know when UN says "SCS belong to vietnam" :wave: the fact there is no official word from UN or other uninvolved countries SAYS that parts of ocean belong to vietnam, not china or PH etc VN also claim part of PH&mala ocean i guess those area are also CLAIM in the unclos
     
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    The problem is : This area is occupied by Chinese troops by force in 1974 from Vietnam, and these fishermen have existed long from years ago before than chinese navy ship in this area . So, this territory is not legal belong to China for any time.
     
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    well i'm sure in china Ming dynasty, there were records of these islands etc so no, vietnam does not have absolute claim over it, nor does china. both country has historical records, influence in that area.
     
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    If Chinese ships ever fired at the Vietnam fishing boats, they would be dead already. The fire could be caused by the fishmen when they were cooking.

    By the way, many Vietnam fishmen are armed with automatic weapons such as AK-47s, that is why they dare venture into Chinese waters, not only to fish but also to rob Chinese fishing boats, very dangerous people.
     
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    "Peaceful rising" is just the noble term of "Make a warning before I'm crushing down the street."
     
  20. Ray

    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    In so far as the Oceans are concerned UNCLOS should be applied.

    I take it that it would be futile to raise the issue at the UN because China, being a permanent member of the UNSC (UN Security Council) will veto it!

    The UN is a paper tiger (to use Mao's term) when it comes to any issue involving the permanent member of the UNSC,
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    So, that is how the Vietnamese cook, burn up their place of residence!

    Real dangerous!

    Historically China spawned piracy and one of famous/ infamous pirates was Ching Shih, who herself was the widow of another ruthless Chinese pirate Zheng Yi.
     

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