Veena celebrating krishna janamashtmi in BJP's show

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  1. Blackwater

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    Re: Veena celebrating krsna janamashtmi in BJP's show

    she is making grounds not to return to pakistan
     
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    Re: Veena celebrating krisna janamashtmi in BJP's show

    Conspiracy against pious islamic people of pakistan! Kaffar Hindus are making pious pakistani women dance on stage without any 'haya' to malign the great image of pakistan!
     
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    One of these days she will become citizen of India for sure...
     
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    Re: Veena celebrating krsna janamashtmi in BJP's show

    She is making grounds for getting a fatwa issued against her by mad mullahs ..... she might be hacked to death since she celebrated a Kaffir's festival.
     
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    Re: Veena celebrating krsna janamashtmi in BJP's show

    I fear that she might bring a culture of shame to pakistani kaum! The anchors in their T.V show are normal when using English words and when they see people from pakistan using Hindi words it brings a cultural demise to them .!! hats off to their logics
     
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    Re: Veena celebrating krsna janamashtmi in BJP's show

    She has already bought "National Shame" for Pakis.... since she collaborated with Kaffirs.

    How about she converts to Hinduism on live TV and vids uploaded on Youtube as well.... it would get millions of hits mostly from Pakistan.
    :lol:
     
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    I suspect she is doing shock and awe to Pakistani people.
    I am afraid that they will get around this idea that their celebrities can do kufr in India.
     
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    Re: Veena celebrating krsna janamashtmi in BJP's show

    Pakistan might even declare war on India if she converted on live TV. :lol:
     
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    Re: Veena celebrating krsna janamashtmi in BJP's show

    Most of the pakistani's have indian roots, so it's very natural home coming for them
     
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    gazwave e pakistan started
     
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    we should get more like her from Pakistan. More the better :rofl:
     
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    What's the big deal?

    Salman Khan doing Puja, Mamata Banerjee offering Namaaz; why does it matter?

    Heck, even I have prayed at Imam Bara, Haji Ali, etc..

    I think people should mind their own business.
     
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    A chauhan "अहिंसा परमो धर्मः धर्म हिंसा तथैव च: l" Senior Member

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    Dont worry she'll be more happy and safe in India than she was in Pakistan.
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    Technically speaking, Muslims cannot participate in non Muslim festivals by word of deed.




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    Celebrating or Participating in Holidays of the Disbelievers

    In the Name of Allâh, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful
    Jamaal al-Din Zarabozo
    Is it permissible for Muslims to celebrate or participate in holidays such as Halloween, birthdays, and Christmas functions?
    Answer (By J. Zarabozo)

    The Prophet (sallallaahu 'alaihi wa sallam) made it very clear that in Islam there are two festivals or holidays. These are the Eid festivals. The celebrations and holidays of a people are from among the actions that most distinguish one people from another. In a Hadith in Sunan Abu Dawud, the Messenger of Allah (sallallaahu 'alaihi wa sallam) said, "Whoever imitates (or resembles) a people is one of them." Therefore, it is not allowed for Muslims to participate in the holidays or celebrations of the non-Muslims.

    Shaikh al-Islam ibn Taimiya wrote in Iqtidha al-Sirat al-Mustaqeem (vol.1, p.470), "There are a number of points that must be considered when discussing (the non-Muslims') festivals and holidays. First, festivals and holidays are from the wide range of laws, ways, and rites that Allah (Subhaanu wa ta'ala) describes in the verse, "For every nation We have established rites that they follow," such as facing the Qiblah, prayer and fasting. There is no difference between joining them in their festivals and joining them in their other rites. Agreeing to their holiday is agreeing to infidelity (Kufr), and agreeing to some minor aspects (of their religion) is like agreeing to a branch of infidelity. In fact, the holidays and festivals are one of the major items that distinguishes their customs and laws, and are one of the most obvious of their rites. Agreeing to it is agreeing to one of the most specific of the acts of infidelity and one of the most blazon of their rituals. There is no doubt that agreeing to or being in accord with something of that nature can only lead to apostasy, in general, given its conditions"

    Indeed, beyond that, the scholars have even stated that it is not allowed for Muslims to congratulate the non-Muslims on their holidays or festivals. Ibn al-Qayyim in Ahkam Ahl al-Dhimma (vol. 1, p. 205) writes, "Giving congratulations on the special events that are specific to the disbelievers, such as congratulating them on their holidays by saying, "Blessed holiday for you" or other similar greetings, is considered forbidden by the agreement of the scholars. Even if the one who states it is free from any aspect of apostasy, it is still a forbidden act and it is the same as congratulating them upon their prostrations to the crucifix. In fact, that is one of the greatest sins in Allah's (Subhaanu wa ta'ala) sight. That is a greater sin than congratulating them for drinking wine, having illegal sexual intercourse and so on. Many of them who are not very religious do such things and they do not know how evil what they are doing really is. Whoever congratulates another human for any sin, heresy, or act of apostasy has exposed himself to the punishment and anger of Allah (Subhaanu wa ta'ala). The pious people from the early scholars would avoid congratulating the oppressors when they received positions of authority or the ignorant when they were given judicial or teaching positions in order to avoid the punishment of Allah (Subhaanu wa ta'ala) and falling from His Grace. If a person would be compelled to go to such people to repel any evil that he expected from him, only to speak well to him and to ask Allah (Subhaanu wa ta'ala) to guide him, there is nothing wrong with that."

    Ibn al-Qayyim has included a beneficial section mentioning the opinions of the scholars concerning this matter (Ahkam Ahl al-Dhikmma, vol. 2, p. 722). It shall be reproduced here with some abridgment: "In the same way that is not allowed for them to publicly (celebrate their holidays), it is not allowed for the Muslims to assist them for the holidays or to help them or to attend (their ceremonies) with them according to the agreement of the people of knowledge. In fact, the jurists who follow the four legal schools have made this clear in their books. Abu al-Qasim al-Tabari wrote, "It is not allowed for Muslims to attend their (the disbelievers') holidays and festivals because they are a type of evil falsehood. If the people of good mix with the people of evil without putting an end to what they are doing then they become like those who are pleased and influenced by the evil. And we fear falling into Allah's (Subhaanu wa ta'ala) anger because of their gathering."

    Then he stated relying on Abu Hatim's narration, that Amir ibn Murra said about the verse, "Those who do not witness falsehood," that "they do not assist the pope of idolatry in their idolatry nor do they associate with them." And al-Baihaqi recorded with a Sahih chain that Umar ibn al-Khattab said, "Do not learn the lingo of the foreigners and do not enter the polytheists' churches on the days of their holidays for (Allah's) anger descends upon them." And he also recorded with a Sahih chain that Abdullah ibn Umar stated, "Whoever stays in the lands of the foreigners and celebrates their New Year's Days (of the festivals of the disbelievers) and behaves like them until he dies, he shall be resurrected with them on the Day of Resurrection." And ibn al-Qayyim said, "Ibn al-Qasim disliked for a Muslim to give a Christian a present during his (the Christian's) holiday; he considered this action as honoring his (the Christian's) holiday and assisting him in disbelief. In the same way, it is forbidden for Muslims to sell Christians anything they may use in their holidays of meat, blood, or clothing, nor should he loan him an animal to ride on, nor help him with anything concerning his festival because all of that would be a way of dignifying their idolatry and helping them in their Kufr. It is a must for the rulers to prevent Muslims from doing such deeds. This is the opinion of Malik and others. And I do not know of any difference of opinion concerning this matter." These are his words from al-Wadhiha. And in the books of the students of Abu Hanifa it states, "Whoever gives them a present, during their holidays, of a watermelon, meaning by that to honor their holiday has committed act of Kufr (apostasy)."

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    These all are Indians, no biggie.
    The women in question is a Pakistani and what she is doing is a taboo in Pakistan.
     
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    Can a muslim celebrate a non muslim holiday like Thanksgiving?

    Praise be to Allaah.

    Greeting the kuffaar on Christmas and other religious holidays of theirs is haraam, by consensus, as Ibn al-Qayyim, may Allaah have mercy on him, said in Ahkaam Ahl al-Dhimmah: "Congratulating the kuffaar on the rituals that belong only to them is haraam by consensus, as is congratulating them on their festivals and fasts by saying ‘A happy festival to you’ or ‘May you enjoy your festival,’ and so on. If the one who says this has been saved from kufr, it is still forbidden. It is like congratulating someone for prostrating to the cross, or even worse than that. It is as great a sin as congratulating someone for drinking wine, or murdering someone, or having illicit sexual relations, and so on. Many of those who have no respect for their religion fall into this error; they do not realize the offensiveness of their actions. Whoever congratulates a person for his disobedience or bid’ah or kufr exposes himself to the wrath and anger of Allaah."

    Congratulating the kuffaar on their religious festivals is haraam to the extent described by Ibn al-Qayyim because it implies that one accepts or approves of their rituals of kufr, even if one would not accept those things for oneself. But the Muslim should not aceept the rituals of kufr or congratulate anyone else for them, because Allaah does not accept any of that at all, as He says (interpretation of the meaning):
    "If you disbelieve, then verily, Allaah is not in need of you, He likes not disbelief for His slaves. And if you are grateful (by being believers), He is pleased therewith for you. . ."
    [al-Zumar 39:7]

    ". . . This day, I have perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islaam as your religion . . ."
    [al-Maa’idah 5:3]

    So congratulating them is forbidden, whether they are one’s colleagues at work or otherwise.

    If they greet us on the occasion of their festivals, we should not respond, because these are not our festivals, and because they are not festivals which are acceptable to Allaah. These festivals are innovations in their religions, and even those which may have been prescribed formerly have been abrogated by the religion of Islaam, with which Allaah sent Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) to the whole of mankind. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
    "Whoever seeks a religion other than Islaam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers." [Aal ‘Imraan 3:85]

    It is haraam for a Muslim to accept invitations on such occasions, because this is worse than congratulating them as it implies taking part in their celebrations.

    Similarly, Muslims are forbidden to imitate the kuffaar by having parties on such occasions, or exchanging gifts, or giving out sweets or food, or taking time off work, etc., because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "Whoever imitates a people is one of them." Shaykh al-Islaam Ibn Taymiyah said in his book Iqtidaa’ al-siraat al-mustaqeem mukhaalifat ashaab al-jaheem: "Imitating them in some of their festivals implies that one is pleased with their false beliefs and practices, and gives them the hope that they may have the opportunity to humiliate and mislead the weak."

    Whoever does anything of this sort is a sinner, whether he does it out of politeness or to be friendly, or because he is too shy to refuse, or for whatever other reason, because this is hypocrisy in Islaam, and because it makes the kuffaar feel proud of their religion.

    Allaah is the One Whom we ask to make the Muslims feel proud of their religion, to help them adhere steadfastly to it, and to make them victorious over their enemies, for He is the Strong and Omnipotent.


    Majmoo’ah Fataawa wa Rasaa’il al-Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen, 3/369)


    Islam Question and Answer - non-Muslim Celebrations
     
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    no asylum to canada as after this, her life in pak will be in danger. she is making ground for asylum
     
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    Seems Some leader had a great night after janmashtami puja :D
     
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    Her real name is Zahida malik
     

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