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  1. Kaalapani

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    http://rt.com/usa/155028-nyc-judge-overseas-emails/

    A US federal judge in New York has ordered Microsoft to turn over their customers’ emails and other digital content to law enforcement agencies, even in case the data is being stored on servers physically overseas.

    New York Magistrate Judge James Francis does not question the cosmopolitan power of a valid search warrant issued by a US law enforcement agency. In a first-of-a-kind court ruling Friday, the judge created a precedent that no US internet provider, be it Microsoft or Google or another company, can refuse an official demand to share foreign clients’ private data, Reuters reported.

    The initial search warrant was issued last December in regards of one of Microsoft’s clients who stored his data on a server run in Dublin, Ireland. An undisclosed US agency sought information that could be found in the person’s email, such as the customer's name, credit card numbers or bank account used for payment.


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    Please share Info related to USA and itz Freedom for Security policy .

    Illegal snooping and stuff like that.
     
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    Thank you for your interest in the various USA metadata programs. Suffice to say that those programs are both controversial and complicated. My own position on them cannot be painted as a simple black and white image. We do have to start somewhere; and the Magistrate Judge's opinion is that place:

    IN THE MATTER OF A WARRANT TO SEARCH A CERTAIN E-MAIL ACCOUNT CONTROLLED AND MAINTAINED BY MICROSOFT CORPORATION; MEMORANDUM AND ORDER, 13 Mag. 2814 (25 Apr 2014; Magistrate Judge James C. Francis IV; United States District Court, Southern District of New York).

    Magistrate Judge Francis is at the bottom of the Federal judicial "food chain" (Magistrate Judge > District Court Judge > Appeals Court Judge > Supreme Court Justice); though from my brief bio search of him, he is both experienced and well regarded. My point is that his decision is far from the last word on the issues raised and decided in it.

    My first "go to" source (after the Federal court docket for the opinion is found) is Lawfare, which covers many issues in which I have an interest. Here are two of its permanent pages, which provide links to the primary documents from both Snowden's and the NSA's viewpoints (which obviously differ):

    A great number of Lawfare posts in 2013 and into 2014 involve the metadata programs from a legal standpoint. Here are three posts from this week dealing with some of the issues raised in the Microsoft Warrant case.

    These references should keep you busy for a bit; albeit, they will interfere with your stick cricket practice. :wave:

    Regards

    Mike
     
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    This totally creepy art project will make you think twice about NSA mass surveillance - Salon.com

    This totally creepy art project will make you think twice about NSA mass surveillance:rolleyes::p
     
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    I've already thought more than twice about NSA mass surveillance.

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    Prison Planet.com » 27 Edward Snowden Quotes About U.S. Government Spying That Should Send A Chill Up Your Spine

    #1 “The majority of people in developed countries spend at least some time interacting with the Internet, and Governments are abusing that necessity in secret to extend their powers beyond what is necessary and appropriate.”

    #2 “…I believe that at this point in history, the greatest danger to our freedom and way of life comes from the reasonable fear of omniscient State powers kept in check by nothing more than policy documents.”

    #3 “The government has granted itself power it is not entitled to. There is no public oversight. The result is people like myself have the latitude to go further than they are allowed to.”

    #4 “…I can’t in good conscience allow the US government to destroy privacy, internet freedom and basic liberties for people around the world with this massive surveillance machine they’re secretly building.”

    #5 “The NSA has built an infrastructure that allows it to intercept almost everything.”

    #6 “With this capability, the vast majority of human communications are automatically ingested without targeting. If I wanted to see your e-mails or your wife’s phone, all I have to do is use intercepts. I can get your e-mails, passwords, phone records, credit cards.”

    #7 “Any analyst at any time can target anyone. Any selector, anywhere… I, sitting at my desk, certainly had the authorities to wiretap anyone, from you or your accountant, to a federal judge, to even the President…”

    #8 “To do that, the NSA specifically targets the communications of everyone. It ingests them by default. It collects them in its system and it filters them and it analyzes them and it measures them and it stores them for periods of time simply because that’s the easiest, most efficient and most valuable way to achieve these ends. So while they may be intending to target someone associated with a foreign government, or someone that they suspect of terrorism, they are collecting YOUR communications to do so.”

    #9 “I believe that when [senator Ron] Wyden and [senator Mark] Udall asked about the scale of this, they [the NSA] said it did not have the tools to provide an answer. We do have the tools and I have maps showing where people have been scrutinized most. We collect more digital communications from America than we do from the Russians.”

    #10 “…they are intent on making every conversation and every form of behavior in the world known to them.”

    #11 “Even if you’re not doing anything wrong, you’re being watched and recorded. …it’s getting to the point where you don’t have to have done anything wrong, you simply have to eventually fall under suspicion from somebody, even by a wrong call, and then they can use this system to go back in time and scrutinize every decision you’ve ever made, every friend you’ve ever discussed something with, and attack you on that basis, to sort of derive suspicion from an innocent life.”

    #12 “Allowing the U.S. government to intimidate its people with threats of retaliation for revealing wrongdoing is contrary to the public interest.”

    #13 “Everyone everywhere now understands how bad things have gotten — and they’re talking about it. They have the power to decide for themselves whether they are willing to sacrifice their privacy to the surveillance state.”

    #14 “I do not want to live in a world where everything I do and say is recorded. That is not something I am willing to support or live under.”

    #15 “I don’t want to live in a world where there’s no privacy, and therefore no room for intellectual exploration and creativity.”

    #16 “I have no intention of hiding who I am because I know I have done nothing wrong.”

    #17 “I had been looking for leaders, but I realized that leadership is about being the first to act.”

    #18 “There are more important things than money. If I were motivated by money, I could have sold these documents to any number of countries and gotten very rich.”

    #19 “The great fear that I have regarding the outcome for America of these disclosures is that nothing will change. [People] won’t be willing to take the risks necessary to stand up and fight to change things… And in the months ahead, the years ahead, it’s only going to get worse. [The NSA will] say that… because of the crisis, the dangers that we face in the world, some new and unpredicted threat, we need more authority, we need more power, and there will be nothing the people can do at that point to oppose it. And it will be turnkey tyranny.”

    #20 “I will be satisfied if the federation of secret law, unequal pardon and irresistible executive powers that rule the world that I love are revealed even for an instant.”

    #21 “You can’t come up against the world’s most powerful intelligence agencies and not accept the risk.”

    #22 “I know the media likes to personalize political debates, and I know the government will demonize me.”

    #23 “We have got a CIA station just up the road – the consulate here in Hong Kong – and I am sure they are going to be busy for the next week. And that is a concern I will live with for the rest of my life, however long that happens to be.”

    #24 “I understand that I will be made to suffer for my actions, and that the return of this information to the public marks my end.”

    #25 “There’s no saving me.”

    #26 “The only thing I fear is the harmful effects on my family, who I won’t be able to help any more. That’s what keeps me up at night.”

    #27 “I do not expect to see home again.”
     

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