US tries to tamp down tension

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  1. amoy

    amoy Senior Member Senior Member

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    Updated: 2010-02-03 06:45 Comments(68) PrintMail Large Medium Small
    Beijing makes it clear that it will have an appropriate response



    Still smarting at Washington's $6.4 billion arms sale to Taipei four days after the announcement, Beijing reaffirmed yesterday that there will be measured retaliation even as senior US officials tried to douse the flames.

    "The US insisted on selling arms to Taiwan regardless of Beijing's resolute opposition that will, inevitably, severely damage China's cooperation with the US on relevant key international and regional issues," said Foreign Ministry spokesman Ma Zhaoxu.

    "China will sanction companies involved in the arms sales," Ma said at a press briefing when asked whether the threat of sanctions was just empty talk. "We'll urge US companies involved to stop pushing for, and participating, in arms sales to Taiwan."

    Ma did not specify the issues on which cooperation could be affected or which companies involved in the deal face sanctions. Boeing, United Technologies, Lockheed Martin and Raytheon are the companies which are selling arms or equipment to Taiwan.

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    However, he implied that the postponement of a bilateral human rights dialogue, originally scheduled for the end of the month, is a fallout of the arms sale.

    Some US officials, apparently taken aback at China's strong response, are trying to downplay the row.

    US Defense Secretary Robert Gates said he hoped Beijing's decision to curtail bilateral military contacts would be temporary, and that he still planned to visit China later this year.

    "Stability is enhanced by contact between our militaries and a greater understanding of each other's strategies, so I hope that if there is a downturn, that it will be a temporary one and that we can get back to strengthening this relationship," Gates said.

    US Ambassador to China Jon Huntsman said in Beijing yesterday that he joined Gates in hoping that it is a short downturn.

    "I hope disagreement here and the postponement of military-military exchanges is only temporary, because the best we can do is to continue building trust and confidence," said the ambassador.

    Stressing the two countries have their own and different core interests, Huntsman told China Daily that "the only way to make progress in this relationship is by a full debate of what the core interests are, why we have core interests, and how realistically we can proceed in respecting these core interests".

    "We will move forward with all confidence and trust we need to get the important work of the region done," said Huntsman.

    In its toughest response in three decades to US arms sales to Taiwan after the Obama administration notified Congress on Friday of its proposed deal, Beijing announced over the weekend that it would curtail military and security exchanges with Washington and warned of severe harm to bilateral ties and cooperation on international and regional issues.

    It also threatened sanctions against US companies involved, a rare action by a developing country against a developed economy.

    The US describes arms sales to Taiwan as a "long-standing commitment to provide for Taiwan's defensive needs".

    But Gong Li, deputy director of the International Institute for Strategic Studies at the Central Party School, said Washington was missing a key point.

    "The US claims that it must fulfill its promise of protecting Taiwan; however, it should also remember its declaration in the joint communique (signed in 1982) that it would reduce arms sales until they are totally stopped.

    "With good prospects for cross-Straits relations, there is no need to sell Taiwan those weapons at all. Under the circumstances, the US action is improper."

    Gong said he did not expect the US to alter its arms sales list but was sure Washington "will receive a clear signal from Beijing this time that it has to pay for what it did".

    "It is a reminder to them that the old rules do not apply in today's game any more."

    Li Cheng, director of research at the John L. Thornton China Center at Brookings Institution, was quoted by the Voice of America as saying that the threat of sanctions will have some impact on US companies involved.

    Li said that the impact is not significant enough to make those companies drop the deals. But they will know that, by doing so, they have to pay a price, he added.
     
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  3. LETHALFORCE

    LETHALFORCE Moderator Moderator

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    If the arm sales are the cause of the tensions and US has no intentions of stopping the sale how does it ease the tension? just useless rhetoric.
     
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    Who is trying to cool down the tension, china or the US? China should go right ahead and sanction boeing, LM etc... If it has the guts that is.
     
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    Lol!!! Yusuf. They are making the whole of Boeing it seems, dare then to saction on these Organization. China's ballon now begin to deflate. Lets wait and see more pictures :)

    This is all part of geopolitics. China has to bear this as it justified the sale of arms to pakistan. Always a coin has 2 sides :D
     
  6. LETHALFORCE

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    There is a big difference in reversed engineered untested Chinese weapons that nobody is rushing to buy that Pakistan is getting and the weapons USA will Taiwan.
     
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    Well if something has caught my eyes in this article is this, damn world is changing indeed, just follow the sequence, shows you what future has in store :

     
  8. LETHALFORCE

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    Gates will visit China later in the year fill the Chinese up with G2 dreams and beating USA to become the world economic leader and then sell some more arms to Taiwan afterwards.
     
  9. amoy

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    China to levy anti-dumping duties on U.S. chicken

    English.news.cn 2010-02-05 21:31:31 FeedbackPrintRSS

    BEIJING, Feb. 5 (Xinhua) -- China's Ministry of Commerce (MOC) said Friday that it would impose initial anti-dumping measures on chicken imports from the United States.

    The preliminary ruling required importers of chicken products from the United States to place deposits at Chinese customs starting from Feb. 13, according to a statement on the MOC website.

    The statement said investigations showed the U.S. producers had dumped chicken products on the Chinese market, caused substantial damage to China's domestic industry.

    The statement also listed dumping margins for chicken products from producers who responded to the anti-dumping investigations from 43.1 percent to 80.5 percent and for those who did not respond to the investigations at 105.4 percent.

    The investigations were launched on Sept. 27, 2009.
     
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    ajtr Veteran Member Veteran Member

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    cross-posting from other forum:

     
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  11. amoy

    amoy Senior Member Senior Member

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    Reading through these quotations I couldn't help laughing. To be frank the Xinhua mouthpiece must enrich their English vocabulary. Instead of 'harm' or 'harmful rhetoric they should have diversified theirs with wording such as 'undermine' or 'detrimental' or 'upset' etc. .

    Joke aside, with China's irrevocable opening up to the outside world since late 1970s and her tremendous expansion of interest globally, China inevitably is exposed to numerous frictions (confrontations sometimes). For instance in JAPAN case, that could be Japanese PM's visit of Yoshiguni Shrine to pay tribute to WW II war criminals. Or in PHILIPINES case the dispute over South China Sea islands.

    All in all China has to be more cautious, sophisticated and tactful in dealing with all this. By now China hasn't 'grown up' yet.


    BY THE WAY I happen to do random 'proof reading' of your paste - for example LAOS case - the full text is as follows,

    People's Daily APR18
    http://203.208.39.132/search?q=cach...=cn&st_usg=ALhdy29b7-nguBrhV7YrsB3OvPE48i822Q


    There's no such phrasing like
    pls doublecheck to avoid 'distortion'.
     
  12. mattster

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    GO ahead China - That's right, go ahead and sanction Boeing for selling arms to Taiwan. We dare you !!

    Hmmmmm........lets see now. They are only 2 major companies in the world that can make big passenger jets( > 200 passengers) - Boeing and Airbus.
    And China needs hundreds of these aircraft over the next 10 years.

    Sanction Boeing, and then you Chinamen will be getting the grease-pole so deep up your rear-end with Airbus that you will literally being seeing stars.
    The is nothing like having a captive market when its comes to turning on the screws.

    So yes, Lets see if the Chinese are really dumb enough to sanction Boeing Commercial Aircraft divison.

    As long as Boeing and Airbus are the only 2 companies making big state of the art jets - every airline in the world will want to play both these companies off each other for the best price and deals.
     
  13. amoy

    amoy Senior Member Senior Member

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    Below report echos yours--


    Don't worry about Boeing
    February 3, 2010: Chinese threats to sanction Boeing are more sound than fury
    However, things are never stagnant - China has been coveting a slice of the aviation market ( captive market for the time being) with homegrown large aircraft (a natural up-the-ladder step in the value chain)- following sounds quite upbeat --

    Development of Chinese large aircraft to restructure Int'l airline market
    17:49, February 02, 2010
     
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  14. LETHALFORCE

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    Boeing and airbus will restructure to allow a competitor into their market another Chinese pipedream.
     
  15. mattster

    mattster Respected Member Senior Member

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    The only new company that has the real potential of challenging Boeing or Airbus in the next 10 years on mid-size jets (between 150 - 250 passengers is Embraer of Brazil.

    Their regional jets are already flying all over the world, and they are slowly stepping up to higher capacity mid-size passenger aircraft.

    The Chinese may be able to make a mid-size jet with a foreign engine and avionics like the C919, but they will have a tough time competing with Boeing, Airbus, Embraer and even Bombadier of Canada. The C919 will probably be much less efficient than other planes and the only way for them to sell it is to force local Chinese airlines to buy it.
     
  16. yuba

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    i think us suould call chinas bluff
     

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