US studies unilateral strike options in Pakistan in case of terror attack

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  1. ajtr

    ajtr Veteran Member Veteran Member

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    USA is weighing of unilateral strikes option on pakistan in case of succesful terror attack on usa emanating from pakistan.But i think usa is beibg too rude and pushy towards pakistan.There will always be chance that terrorists will try to attack usa in order to disturb peace and relation between the two countries.USA must not allow it to be carried away by emtions in case of terror attacks it must show restrain and keep talking to pakistan on strategic and composite dialogue.usa must understand that pakistan is a nuclear state and there can be dangers of nuclear exchange between the two if usa attacks pakistan pre-emptively.there are chance that pakistan may react with nukes and wipe out lacs of usa forces stationed in gulf and afghanistan.So being a responsible big superpower usa must be paitent enough and must restrain itself unless it can flare nuke exchange in entire middle east wiping out 1/3 rd of its forces....dont think im sarcastic......=heheh

    U.S. studies options for possible Pakistan attack: report

    WASHINGTON
    Sat May 29, 2010 12:13am EDT
    (Reuters) - U.S. military leaders are reviewing options for a unilateral strike in Pakistan if there is a successful attack on American soil tied to the country's tribal areas, The Washington Post reported in its Saturday edition.

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    The newspaper said senior U.S. military officials stressed a possible strike would only be considered under extreme circumstances such as a catastrophic attack that convinced President Barack Obama that the campaign using CIA drone strikes is not working.

    The officials said airstrikes would be the most effective option in reducing the threat posed by al-Qaeda and other groups, but the United States must be careful not to damage its military relationship with Pakistan to a point where it cannot be repaired.

    CIA-operated drones have targeted Taliban figures in Pakistan's tribal areas and the group has vowed to avenge missile strikes that have killed some of its leaders.

    The failed Times Square bombing on May 1 has revived international fears about Pakistan, a U.S. ally in the campaign against militancy. It also has forced the Obama administration to review how it would respond to a successful attack on U.S. soil.

    U.S. authorities say Faisal Shahzad, a Pakistani-American, has admitted to the Times Square bomb attempt and has been cooperating with investigators since his arrest on May 3.

    American and Pakistani authorities are likely scrambling for clues on whether those detained have ties to militants in Pakistan, who are bent on toppling the state and are violently opposed to the U.S. presence.
     
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  3. AirforcePilot

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    I don't think we are rude or even pushy with Pakistan. We give that country military hardware and billions of dollars in aid for their support. We are getting nothing in return except excuses why they will not tackle the terrorism problem. If Pakistan continues to drag their feet we reserve the right to go after the terrorist in Pakistan using more than drone strikes.

    As far as Pakistan using nukes, it will never happen. The Pakistani leadership knows the country will be destroyed if they decide to go nuclear. A full retaliatory strike by us will result in millions of deaths in Pakistan. The same would apply to North Korea. Yes, we would lose many troops in the gulf and Afghanistan, but Pakistan will pay the ultimate price of going nuclear.
     
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    ^^ replace usa with india in my post and exactly we hear same advice from usa with every terror strikes on india emanating from pakistan.Now see how you reacted what i said and the same way indian react as you did just now when everytime we they hear from every usa official advising us to restrain.Well advising others is easy but when goes through the same situation hhe wont follow the advise he gives to others....And thats the situation with usa...

    An ounce of practice is worth a pound of precept
     
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    hey listen to me PA aint going into NW for now

    so Americans are using pressure tactics :)
     
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    now thats some cockiness American must get used to. Ain't it???
     
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    ahhh may be, may be not
     
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    US will attack Pakistan if there was a terrorist attack on US soil? What a joke.

    What was 9/11 then? What was the recent NY Times Square scare then? Have realization not dawned upon America even now? Bigots.
     
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    ^^well it all depends in the end who prevails in relentless pursuit of phony peace through phony war.....
     
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    being oracle you dont know what was 9/11 and time square bombing....too bad of you if you don't know that both were CIA/Mossad false flag operations to seek reasons to attack and obliterate Iraq/Afghanistan/Pakistan all three countries at a time...the hat-trick as you call in cricket.
     
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    Being an Oracle, I predict future. However predicting policies of trapeze professionals of US administration is out of my reach.
     
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    any oracle will get confused with ever changing goal posts of usa admin and its buddy pakistan...
     
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    Is US not striking there at will what is new here?
     
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    new thing is the statement that usa administration is good at churning out.They have been attacking pakistan unilaterally since long through predators but by issuing statements like this they give the perception till now they have restrained themselves and are respecting Pakistan's sovereignty.But in reality they are doing just opposite.
     
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    Well aj i think this military action is long due. It is only a matter of time but this time also it will be IA who will be putting final nail in the coffin. 1971 was unfinished business :)
     
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    Isn't it always been IA???Heck even usa was left high and dry while protecting its buddy as always.....
     
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    Dealing With Pakistan

    Published: May 28, 2010


    Nine years after the 9/11 attacks, the United States is still trying to figure out how to manage relations with Pakistan — and what mix of inducements and public and private pressures will persuade Islamabad to fully commit to the fight against extremists.
    Editorial Series

    Pakistan
    The Obama administration is working hard to cultivate top Pakistani officials. There are regular high-level visits. In March, a senior Pakistani delegation visited Washington for a strategic dialogue with the Americans that seems to be building trust and cooperation across a range of government agencies.

    An April visit to Islamabad by the president’s national security adviser, Gen. James Jones, and Leon Panetta, the director of the Central Intelligence Agency, was a reminder of the limits of American power. They warned officials of severe consequences if an attack on American soil is traced back to Pakistan. Given Pakistan’s proximity to Afghanistan, its nuclear arsenal and the fragility of its government, it is not clear how much punishment Washington would ever mete out.

    Pakistan has its own horrifying reminders that the fight against terrorism is not just America’s fight. On Friday, gunmen and suicide bombers stormed two mosques in Lahore, killing at least 80 worshipers.

    Pakistan’s Army has mounted big offensives against Pakistani Taliban factions in the Swat Valley and South Waziristan. It has hesitated in North Waziristan where Faisal Shahzad, the suspect in the failed Times Square bombing, reportedly received support and training. Intelligence-sharing has improved, but there is a lot more to be done as the Shahzad case showed.

    So why isn’t Pakistan doing all it needs to?

    Part of that is the strategic game. Islamabad has long used extremist groups in its never-ending competition with India. Part is a lack of military capability and part political cowardice. While some of Pakistan’s top leaders may “get it,” the public definitely does not.

    The United States still does not have a good enough strategy for winning over Pakistan’s people, who are fed a relentless diet of anti-American propaganda.

    As The Times reported on Wednesday, the United States is often blamed for everything from water shortages to trying to destroy the Pakistani state. The Obama administration came in determined to change that narrative. When he was in the Senate, Joseph Biden, now the vice president, worked with Richard Lugar on a $7.5 billion, five-year aid package that would prove American concern for the Pakistani people (not just the military) by investing in schools, hospitals and power projects.

    Congress approved the first $1.5 billion for 2010, but the State Department is still figuring out how to spend it. The projects need to move as quickly as possible. And Pakistani leaders who demand more help, but then cynically disparage the aid, need to change their narrative.

    The State Department also needs to move faster to implement its public diplomacy plan for Pakistan. Officials need to think hard about how to make sure Pakistanis know that aid is coming from the United States — like the $51 million for upgrading three thermal power plants announced by Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton in October. It is a delicate issue, but the “made in America” label has to be affixed.

    The State Department has committed to spend $107 million over two years to help Pakistanis better understand the United States. Plans include bringing 2,500 Pakistani academics and others on exchange visits and expanding after-school English classes in Pakistan. There also are proposals to bring more American academics to Pakistan and to reopen cultural centers. They should move ahead. An initiative to make more American officials available to speak directly to Pakistanis has shown promise.

    Changing Pakistani attitudes about the United States will take generations. The Shahzad case is one more reminder that there is no time to lose.
     
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    They are just bluffing, hoping (praying) that Pakistanis would act on their own. The only action from US would be to give a few more billions to Pakistan.
     
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    U.S. planning war on nuclear armed Pakistan and North Korea

    29 May 2010 8ak: Pakistan has released A.Q. Khan, father of their nuclear weapons program on the 11th anniversary of its 1999 Nuclear tests yesterday. His nuclear trade network made it possible for Iran to develop nuclear technology and North Korea to develop nuclear weapons.

    For the first time in history, the U.S. finds itself in a position where it could actually go to war with nuclear armed adversaries - Pakistan and North Korea. After the failed Times Sq bombing in New York, Hillary Clinton took a tough stance and warned Pakistan of "consequences" if an attack on U.S. soil pointed to a Pakistani link. Now Washington Post has revealed that the U.S. is preparing a plan on how it would attack Pakistan. If this happened, the other first would be that the U.S. would have to fight against its own weapons including F-16s, missiles and modern artillery it has given to Pakistan even though these had little value in fighting the Taliban. Yesterday's Taliban attack on an Ahmadi mosque that killed 80 people highlighted the fact that Pakistan has little control over these groups who whilst targeting their fellow countrymen are also itching for a major overseas attack. See "Al Qaeda continues to plot from Pakistan: U.S." and Open Magazine: "Terror attack during India's Commonwealth Games"

    Meanwhile, with clear evidence of a North Korean torpedo having sunk a South Korean naval vessel, South Korea has cut ties with the North and started amassing troops at the border and promised to punish the North. North Korean leader Kim Jong Il retaliated by promising an all-out war and the U.S. had to back up the South saying that it would support the South no matter what action it took. If North Korea conducted the torpedo attack on its own accord, it is a clear indication of the unbalanced mental state of Kim Jong Il and the reason that this could escalate in to a war. Seoul is only 35km from the North Korean border and despite naval superiority, the damage the North could do to is unthinkable, given that it has the 4th largest army in the world, nuclear weapons and access to missile technology from China. Daily Report: China, Iran & North Korea form strategic alliance.

    China, as expected, has shown an unwillingness to accept evidence implicating its long time friend North Korea. Hillary Clinton's trip to China like many other trips of the Obama administration has produced little as China will also not give in to US demand of tougher sanctions against Iran. See The Diplomat: China's troubling Iran ties.

    http://www.8ak.in/8ak_india_defence...n-nuclear-armed-pakistan-and-north-korea.html

    US is not India, to think twice before attacking.
    if it wants to attack, no re-thinking..........
     
  20. ajtr

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    ^^ these days usa seems to full of hot air.
     

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