US Set to Suspend Military Aid to Pakistan

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    US Set to Suspend Military Aid to Pakistan

    The U.S. government will withhold certification of Pakistan’s counter-terrorism operations against the Haqqani Network

    The United States government will not certify Pakistan’s counter-terrorism operations in North Waziristan over recent months as adequately damaging to the Haqqani network, a U.S.-designated terror group. The U.S. Department of Defense has reportedly notified the Pakistani embassy in Washington of the development, according to a report by Dawn. The non-certification of the Pakistani counter-terror campaign, known as Operation Zarb-e-Azb, will block the release of a new tranche of U.S. financial assistance for the Pakistani military from the Coalition Support Fund (CSF). CSF support had been extended for a year with a specific stipulation that the U.S. Department of Defense would certify the effectiveness of Pakistani military operations in North Waziristan against the Haqqani network.

    The development would drive a major wedge between the United States and Pakistan, two allies who have grown apart over their divergent interests and priorities in stabilizing the broader Afghan-Pakistan border. Beyond the financial implications of the blocked CSF tranche, the development will deal Islamabad a politically damaging blow. As the Dawn report notes, given the recent deterioration in ties with Kabul amid allegations from the Afghan president, Ashraf Ghani, that Pakistani has inadequately reigned in cross-border terrorists, including militants affiliated with the Haqqani network, the U.S. government’s decision to withhold certification vindicate Afghan perceptions.

    The suspension of the next CSF tranche, once confirmed, will certainly sour U.S.-Pakistan ties, which haven’t been quite normal since 2011, when the United States’ most wanted terrorist, Osama bin Laden, was killed by U.S. commandos in a raid in Abbottabad, Pakistan. With Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s scheduled state visit planned for October, Washington will have some time to work out their differences. The extent to which the CSF tranche suspension will affect Pakistan’s defense spending is unclear—reports earlier this year suggested that Islamabad had counted “payment from the United States’ coalition support fund for coalition forces in Afghanistan who are using Pakistani territory for logistic support” as part of its overall budget. Pakistan received last month’s tranche of $337 million from the United States, though suspension now will mean Islamabad will fall short of receiving the expected $1.5 billion in CSF aid for the current fiscal year.

    In a coincidence of timing, reports that the U.S. government would withhold certification of Pakistan’s counter-terrorism operations came as Pakistan and Russia concluded a major defense deal for the sale of four Mi-35 Hind attack helicopters. As I noted last year, Russia lifted its self-imposed arms embargo on weapons deliveries to Pakistan, taking advantage, in part, of Islamabad’s recognition of souring ties with the United States and Moscow’s own search for new defense customers. The Mi-35 deal could lead to a broader Pakistan-Russia defense relationship but there will be some constraints for the two sides as they seek to expand cooperation, particularly Russia’s significantly broader defense commercial relationship with India.

    http://thediplomat.com/2015/08/us-set-to-suspend-military-aid-to-pakistan/
     
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    I also want ..US should reconsider Military hardware Sale and Support to Pakistan
     
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    Us will not give up a market to china and Russia. Pakistan is not a real buyer gifting can stop if one nation like Russia starts gifting aggressively other will stop. Looks like the russian helicopter gift has upset people in the pentagon?
     
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    Loose the Paki Market , and find India as a Good Customer
     
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    We need to stop looking at nations to have an exclusive buyer seller relations with us. Only Israelis currently enjoy that . Most russian weapon tech is ten years behind the west .
    Russia cannot make many things anymore buying warships from France(cancelled) and uav from Israel.
     
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    Let them stop all aid to Pakistan, the sooner the better.
     
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    Neo USA and Pakistan get into these tit for tat moves every few years . What will pak do? It seems USA does not want Pakistan to be independent in anyway?
    This is retaliation for improving Russia relations?
     
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    Suspending aid to Pakistan will never happen. Pakis find a genuine intelligence about the area which the US and rest of the West want. They will restore it sooner than later.

    It is not for the first time aid has been suspended to Pakistan. In 1991, the senior George Bush was unable to certify that Pakistan is not building Atom Bomb. In fact they had already built it during Reagan Administration. Hence Pressler Amendment was put in place to deny Pakistan any military aid. The aid remained suspended for about ten years. Then Pakistanis came to US about Afghanistan intelligence and opened its ports and roads to Afghanistan, then US repealed the Pressler Amendment and tripled the aid.

    The point here is that Pakisatnis are clever enough to withhold intelligence which US needs and then US comes with greater aid to get that information from the,.

    This current withholding of aid will definitely take the shine out of irrepressible Sartaz Aziz's diplomacy towards India.
     
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    Ofcourse it's retaliation for cosing up with Russia and the CPEC which is materialising. USA is still oposing the IP pipeline which China has agreed to build as soon as the sanctions are lifted. Pakistan as it seems is still too important for USA to let go and they'll try all options to put us under pressure.

    I for one want the relations to cool down, this is the right moment to do so. The world is changing fast, the arab world is changing fast, the region around Pakistan is changing fast so why should Pakistan not adapt to these changes and make a u-turn in international politics.
     
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    Relation with Pak is like having relation with a former prostitute who would blackmail and gets bitchslapped and shown it's place.The Cycle goes on and on and on...

    This love-hate relationship between US-Pak would not go anywhere so US can't abandon Pakis all the way ever.
     
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    Using your analogy if you are screwing a girl on the side you still don't want to share her with other guys.
     
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    rock127 Maulana Rockullah Senior Member

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    I said former and now their relations are complex.

    After Pakis nurtured Osama the #1 Terrorist for 10 years, US got cheated and heartbroken.

    Poor Americans let their hard earned tax payer money to finance Pakis who used it to provide a fantastic harem for BUTCHER of 3000 Americans.
     
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    USA's South Asia policy has USA placing all their eggs in the Pakistani basket.
    Not much USA can do. If USA does something to extreme Pakistan can be lost to china , india, Russia or Afghanistan. USA has invested too much in Pakistan; USA can lose everything and Pakistan very little. Pakistan is calling the shots no matter what USA does. Many in US congress believe if they lose Pakistan they will lose Asia ?
     
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    When you(US) support and nurture a SNAKE(Pakistan) same thing happens.US has a bad habit of doing such stuff and getting hurt in the end and it's not just Pakistan.

    Very hard to get out of such a complex f***ed up situation.

    Basically US paying for the bullets which killed it's own people but US can't abandon Pakistan ever.

    So let's not get excited if US do some drama of holding some aid to Pakis. :truestory:
     
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    This is all meaningless drama. USA has a long history of favoring tyrants and dictators. Easier to bribe one megalomaniac than work with democracies.
     
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    USA has already lost Pakistan to China; Russia, India or Afghanistan are nowhere in the picture. What she's been doing eversince Hilary Clinton visited Pakistan is damage control and balancing the act. Pakistan can not be bullied and it can certainly not be blackmailed with more sanctions. We saw that after the Salala massacre when Pakistan blocked NATO traansit for more than 8 months and didn't recieve any coalition funds in retaliation.

    Once the CPEC is in works, Pakistan will no longer depend on USaid which is largely used for budgetary relief, not development.

    But what has USA to loose? An important front line ally in one of world most dangerous zones. Pakistan is still a very important source of intelligence for CIA/Pentagon. Can USA afford to lose that?
     
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    Agreed, most of it is drama and soon USA will be singing a different song. But we're focused on our relations with China, Russia and Iran (SCO) and how CPEC can help us generate more revenue and create jobs.
    We can not be bothered with what USA does..
     
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    Their foolish move was enforcing Democracy on Middle-East countries.

    Those countries are best ruled by their own Autocratic leaders and were much peaceful compared today.
     
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    1.5 billion is not a lot of what USA expects from Pakistan. I have said this many time USA had bought Pakistan cheap. Be careful USA can be very vindictive .
    If Chinese relations get to the point USA feels threatened that can be a bad spot
    For Pakistan to be in.
     

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