US seeks to export Afghan war to split Pakistan

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may be they do

while our goal is merger of afghanistan with Pakistan.

i guess we are much possible succesful so far when compared to the america.

NOTE:merger of only the region closer to pakistan
throw some light on the issue that "pakistanis consider afghanistan as their personal toy with which they can do anything anytime with no regards to aspiration of afghanis themselves". i have seen extremely casual atitude by pakistanis on various forums regarding afghanistan. even today i saw pakistanis commenting on afghan pakistan tension on tribune.com.pk which was like- the statement was that afghan president ordered demolition of structure made by pakistani army within the afghan territory, and the response was that- dont afghani know us will leave them.

so why such attitude toward a sovereign nation, is there lack of cognizance of a fact among pakistanis that afghanistan and afghani of 2013 is not it used to be in 1980s
 

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Islamic fanatics and terrorist were around long befor the USA and the bottom line, well two bottom lines is the only reason the USA is in Afganstan is because of 3000 americans being murdered in cold blood on 911.

The other bottom line India does not do any thing is because they are scared and dont have the ability.

You dont seem to know much history either. Assassins - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
India is not a war mongering nation. If "everything else fail" and become un approachable, we look at the option for LIMITED war with Objectives. its easy to start a war, but we should have a clear understanding on how and when to end it. Even in employment of war there are certain rigid policies which are formulated by policy makers - not "corporates".

Well..India doesnt have the ability to start a "senseless war" which is based on REVENGE. She has got a lot of developments at stake.
**Even US is not immune from the feedbacks of war which has an adverse effect on its technological development.** - Your Exchequer is finding it hard to meet both ends meet.
For us war should not be a problem for a solution, but solution to a problem. We very well know that the "WAR AGAINST TERROR-(Season 11?)" wont find any substantial solution with out 'Realistic approach' by the parties involved and with Lots of Agendas at play.

Also, we are not in the business of installing democracy.






Well
 

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especially :-

in pakistan "reinforced" = the same old stuck record of "blame india for everything" /QUOTE]

But thats the way to survive the "Ruling Politics" in Pakistan.
but as you said...
so far he is saying the right things. Lets hope he continue to say that when elected to power.
 

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old govt is long gone

next month on this date Imran will be the PM of Pakistan
do you think Uncle cares for your Govt or in future if IK comes to power do they really care about stopping drone attack.

BTW your national bird is deadly so be careful from unmanned death from sky.:rofl:

your Army, ISI and Govt has sold cheaply for few $.
 

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Islamic fanatics and terrorist were around long befor the USA and the bottom line, well two bottom lines is the only reason the USA is in Afganstan is because of 3000 americans being murdered in cold blood on 911.

The other bottom line India does not do any thing is because they are scared and dont have the ability.

You dont seem to know much history either. Assassins - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Terrorism has a long and honored history in Islamic society.
you guys wake up to Islamic Terrorists trained, armed and supported by Pakistan, only when your were the target, till such time it was not your problem and we were dealing with it alone. :tsk:

even now you guys have not touched Kashmiri terrorists training camps they are their like big village festival camp.
 

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Islamic fanatics and terrorist were around long befor the USA and the bottom line, well two bottom lines is the only reason the USA is in Afganstan is because of 3000 americans being murdered in cold blood on 911.

The other bottom line India does not do any thing is because they are scared and dont have the ability.

You dont seem to know much history either. Assassins - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Terrorism has a long and honored history in Islamic society.
If you had NK and Iran having nukes sharing boundaries we would see how much action you would take.

Very easy sending drones half the globe across.
 

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We have killed terrorist that were involved in terrorism in India, but our targets are terrorist that harm americans or american interests. I dont think you all understand americans, we were more the ready and willing to go to war with the USSR even if it destroyed the world ten times over. If its necessary we are going to worry about WMD and Nuclear Weapons by piss ant little backward countries like Iran, N Korea or Pakistan.


PARIS: France is considering buying US-made unarmed Reaper surveillance drones to boost its military capabilities, a source in the defence ministry said.

France's deficit of surveillance drones was highlighted during its recent intervention against Islamist rebels in Mali, where the United States deployed several Predator drones in support of French forces.


"A letter has been sent to Washington to evaluate the feasibility" of France purchasing drones, the source said. "It does not commit France, it is part of a reflection on the possibility."

French newspaper La Tribune reported today that Paris had made an official request to Washington to acquire Reaper drones and customise them for use by French forces. The drones could later be adapted to include weapons systems, it wrote.

Predator and Reaper drones are widely used by the US military and known as the weapon of choice in a covert CIA air war against Al-Qaeda militants mostly in Pakistan and Yemen.

European nations including France are developing their own unmanned combat drone, known as the Neuron, which flew its maiden test flight in December but is not expected to be operational for several years

French military considering purchase of US drones: Source - Economic Times

John Wayne. I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a-hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them
 

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We have killed terrorist that were involved in terrorism in India, but our targets are terrorist that harm americans or american interests. I dont think you all understand americans, we were more the ready and willing to go to war with the USSR even if it destroyed the world ten times over. If its necessary we are going to worry about WMD and Nuclear Weapons by piss ant little backward countries like Iran, N Korea or Pakistan.
hope you guys will take out Pakistani nukes, but never did that and in future one or nukes will end up exploding in US shore.
 

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USA cant win against odd 20k taliban with more than 1 lac troops deployed and trillion dollar cost.

fact is USA has not won any war since world war 2.
be it vietnam,afghanistan or iraq.badly lost.

hope we cease relations with USA.we will think about them breaking pakistan later.

first priority should be to end relation with USA so to bring peace in pakistan i mean less terrorist activities in pakistan
you can't cease relations with your money lender..
 

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We have killed terrorist that were involved in terrorism in India, but our targets are terrorist that harm americans or american interests.
Thats a nice view point..but for terrorists..they are the global guardians of their extreme views.
So there is nothing as "terrorists againsts India" or "terrorists against US", Though they are classified in many forms and factors, they work together for some common objective-God knows what.
 

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Back to topic.

The Pakistanis only understand the language of power.

USA is spending and committed to spend (Aid) more on Afghanistan.

The only best thing USA can do is to empower ANA, and we know US's best effort will make that army better in the region, if not best. Going by the training, weapons and numbers pouring in now all ANA need is more time before Pakistan army start sending their pyjama wearing regulars with long beard and a ugly turbans.

NATO and USA must provide logistics to ANA to be quick in response and some radars to trace Pakistani army dropping or air lifting its army officers with Taliban disguise at convenience; like they did before.

USA has already got extensive Satellite coverage over AF-Pak borders and they have been even monitoring human activities along check posts and border; this monitoring must be shared with ANA or GoA even if they leave the region. One can tail Pakistan Army's air lift capabilities as well via HUMNIT and other resources, maps of their bases are already popular among bad Talibans :thumb:

ANA and Afghanistan has enough venom in their bellies to regurgitate on Pakistan once all above is done.

India should do its own bits to make sure ANA stay afloat not run over by Pakistan.
 

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may be but you guys have better resources and persuation power. What use of power to destroy earth 10 times if you cant stop terrorist nuking your country in pick up truck.
You cant stop terrorism any more then you can stop any other kind of vermine, you just kill enough to reduce the problem to a minium level.
Think of drones as kind of a vermine control device.
 

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You cant stop terrorism any more then you can stop any other kind of vermine, you just kill enough to reduce the problem to a minium level.
Think of drones as kind of a vermine control device.
You have to look at the Palestine -Israel situation.
The more you kill the more is born.
In palastine..woman feel that they are giving birth to warriors and the deaths are percieved as "Sacrifice of highest order"..+ a man is allowed to marry and impregnate many woman.
A few articles on this line are already available online.

So..what are we lookin at here?
We are lookin at a never ending war , politcal unrest and polluting the planet with whatever is dropped from the B2 Bombers.

If they cant find fighters at a particular geo location.they will import it from other continents such as Africa etc.
So far the terrorists are one step ahead of the world order strategies.

Its the defective,string attached anti terror strategies that is making everything null and void.
 

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You have to look at the Palestine -Israel situation.
The more you kill the more is born.
In palastine..woman feel that they are giving birth to warriors and the deaths are percieved as "Sacrifice of highest order"..+ a man is allowed to marry and impregnate many woman.
A few articles on this line are already available online.

So..what are we lookin at here?
We are lookin at a never ending war , politcal unrest and polluting the planet with whatever is dropped from the B2 Bombers.

If they cant find fighters at a particular geo location.they will import it from other continents such as Africa etc.
So far the terrorists are one step ahead of the world order strategies.

Its the defective,string attached anti terror strategies that is making everything null and void.
This is what keeps US DoD afloat.
 

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Well I only hope the US did actually start to think on the lines to split Pak
 

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The more that are born the more we will kill, I doubt if americans will just give up like India.
The more you CREATE the more you have to KILL.Seems like you would never give up creating terrorists.

As I said it's earlier it's easy to sit in a safe zone and wage wars all over the world and totally other thing creating wars with the terrorist countries sharing borders with nukes.
 

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The more you CREATE the more you have to KILL.Seems like you would never give up creating terrorists.

As I said it's earlier it's easy to sit in a safe zone and wage wars all over the world and totally other thing creating wars with the terrorist countries sharing borders with nukes.
Seems like now the being in "safe zone" is getting questioned big time.
War on Remote Control just got some reality checks.
 

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