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With all its technological advancement USA wont be able to pull out all nukes from different places by launching simultaneous attacks.nukes are not osama's body that you grab it in 15 min and runaway.
who cares if they cannot snatch everything? Even if pukistan fires a few at India, I dont care. It gives us the license to dissolve you completely, get back Kashmir, chop the land into tiny pieces and make Balochistan a protectorate of India.

Like our former general said "India can afford to loose 100 million, can pakistan?"
 
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who cares if they cannot snatch everything? Even if pukistan fires a few at India, I dont care. It gives us the license to dissolve you completely, get back Kasmir, chop the land into tiny pieces and make Balochistan a protectorate of India.

Like our former general said "India can afford to loose 100 million, can pakistan?"
Pakistan won't have time to react first strike all chaos breaks loose and If India is helping it will be an
even quicker finish for Pakistan.
 

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ajtr, US has supplied some nuke triggers to Pakistan so that nukes dont go off without authority, a part from them, India and Israel also keep tab on these nukes and their movement, ofcouse in past Pak has transported them in jeeps and other vehicle without escorts. I am sure Pakistan army wont guve up their nukes that easily, they mught give their any other prised possession but nukes, no. At the same time their is no death of people on USa payrole either, past also people have give away OBL against Pak national interest, so nuke gurds can also be great source of info.
 
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ajtr, US has supplied some nuke triggers to Pakistan so that nukes dont go off without authority, a part from them, India and Israel also keep tab on these nukes and their movement, ofcouse in past Pak has transported them in jeeps and other vehicle without escorts. I am sure Pakistan army wont guve up their nukes that easily, they mught give their any other prised possession but nukes, no. At the same time their is no death of people on USa payrole either, past also people have give away OBL against Pak national interest, so nuke gurds can also be great source of info.
Any transport of nukes will be detected by USA and India in 3 ways:

satellite intelligence
ground intelligence that USA has inside Pakistan-Dynacorp,blackwater and CIA agents in Pakistan
Alpha particle detectors
 
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saya, it is practically impossible to hide nuclear weapons whether they hide it in caves or transport it in carts. for nukes that are in near ready state of deployment, they have to be at a missile site or air base. all of these will be taken out instantly if such a plan were to materialize. by the time the nukes hidden in caves come out, the pukes will be finished.
 

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i am sure China too will be concern about its nukes and its stake in Pakistan, they have some sort of back up plan for this.
 
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i am sure China too will be concern about its nukes and its stake in Pakistan, they have some sort of back up plan for this.
China will not stick it's neck out and embarrass itself for a looser like Pakistan never did in the past and
never will in the future.
 

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i am sure China too will be concern about its nukes and its stake in Pakistan, they have some sort of back up plan for this.
come to think of it pukistan will make for a nice place for a proxy war between china and US :lol:
 

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It will not be US alone that will go into Pakistan

IT will be a multi pronged attack with India USA China and Russia all participating to
De nuke Pakistan

China is also very wary of its Uighyr Muslim rebels being buddy- buddy with the Paki and Afghan taliban

Xinjiang province is so huge that if Uighyr rebels get a couple of loose nukes it will be impossible
to find them
 

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with USA in afgan, it gives them very short reaction time. How many soldiers require to take about 100 nukes? Assuming they are at 20-30 locations spread across Pakistan. Sea nukes are the easist to take out, so they are least of the worry as they are above water.
 
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with USA in afgan, it gives them very short reaction time. How many soldiers require to take about 100 nukes? Assuming they are at 20-30 locations spread across Pakistan. Sea nukes are the easist to take out, so they are least of the worry as they are above water.
It won't be ground troops going in to get them best way would be to use
the bunker buster i posted or

US military tests ground-penetrating monster bomb "¢ The Register

US military tests ground-penetrating monster bomb


The US military's effort to build what may become the largest conventional bomb ever used is making progress.

Boeing announced on Monday that its Massive Ordnance Penetrator (MOP) demo weapon had successfully completed a "static tunnel lethality test" at the White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico.


The MOP, which also goes under the names "Big BLU" and "Direct Hard Target Strike Weapon", is a 30,000-pound brute, intended for delivery by B-52 Stratofortresses or B-2 stealth bombers against deeply buried or heavily protected targets.

It's being developed under the auspices of the US military's interestingly-named Threat Reduction Agency, which normally does things like verifying nuke disposals. The MOP is intended to reduce the threats faced by the USA only, of course, by pulverising them. From the viewpoint of other countries the new bomb could be described more as a threat enhancement.

Even so, to some the MOP seems like a relatively delicate tool. The US originally had a plan to deal with enemy bunkers, WMD facilities or whatnot using a special ground-penetrating nuke. The "Robust Nuclear Earth Penetrator" programme was axed by the Senate in 2005, however, leaving the MOP as America's last best hope for taking out difficult targets.

Bomb spotters may care to note that the MOP won't be the heaviest conventional bomb ever made by the US. The 1940s era T-12, at almost 44,000lb, was a substantially bigger brute. The T-12 was one of the final developments of the World War II Allies' "earthquake bomb" programmes, developed to knock out German V-weapon sites and U-boat pens. Famed British bomb boffin Barnes Wallis, inventor of the dam-busting "bouncing bomb", was an early innovator, designing the "Tallboy" and "Grand Slam" penetrators.

The T-12 didn't arrive in time for wartime use, and is now obsolete. The US does have some pretty hefty ordnance in current service, most famously the 21,700-lb GBU-43B Massive Ordnance Air Blast (MOAB) job – perhaps better known under its media nickname "Mother Of All Bombs".

The MOAB isn't any good for knocking out bunkers, however. It's a pure blast weapon, essentially a massive lump of explosive without penetrating abilities. It was developed to replace the old 15,000lb "Daisy Cutters" which US forces used to flatten jungle and create helicopter landing zones in Vietnam.

The MOP, however, should be just the ticket for deep bunkers. Most of its weight is actually in the hardened metal casing, which will strike the earth at several times the speed of sound after falling from high altitude. This should enable the MOP to drill a long way down before exploding.

There must be a lot of planners at the Pentagon scratching their heads right now over the Iranian nuke facility at Natanz, parts of which are said to be 75 feet underground and covered by metres of reinforced concrete. They'll be very keen to see the MOP ready for use. ®
 

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Snatching Paki nukes is indeed perhaps the most difficult scenario for Pentagon planners

And it is not as easy as snatching candy from a child

So Maximum force and the best technology will have to be used

The Maximum manpower will be provided by India

Indian tanks will enter Rawalpindi and Islamabad and GHQ Rawalpindi
ISI Head quarters at AABPARA Islamabad will be DESTROYED
by Brahmos fired from the SU 30 MKI :india:
 

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Can they be denuked without force. Start with a Security Council resolution that states that the pukes are a global security threat and hence they must be denuked.

Give them 6 months to comply or massive economic and trade sanctions. No oil, no food. How do you think the pukes would respond to this?
 
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Snatching Paki nukes is indeed perhaps the most difficult scenario for Pentagon planners

And it is not as easy as snatching candy from a child

So Maximum force and the best technology will have to be used

The Maximum manpower will be provided by India

Indian tanks will enter Rawalpindi and Islamabad and GHQ Rawalpindi
ISI Head quarters at AABPARA Islamabad will be DESTROYED
by Brahmos fired from the SU 30 MKI :india:

why snatch them? Destroying them where they are hidden in a possible joint operation would be easy.

One easy scenario India violates Pakistan air space or ground space or a diversion and
USA drops these bad boys.
 

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the day this securing of Pak nuke starts, that will be the day of end of Pakistan.
 
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Can they be denuked without force. Start with a Security Council resolution that states that the pukes are a global security threat and hence they must be denuked.

Give them 6 months to comply or massive economic and trade sanctions. No oil, no food. How do you think the pukes would respond to this?
Do you see China voting for this? Or the Saudis who financed it agreeing remember AQ Khan's words
this is an "islamic bomb" to be shared against all enemies of islam.
 

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