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Stringer is no Super cool weaponry But it have its reputation, Other MANPADS Indian Army AD will have which will out class and out preform it in future....
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US Offers Stinger Missiles To India
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In short we dont want it or need it.
I thought the trials are still on for both Javelin and Spike. Surprisingly, Spike failed the earlier held desert trials.
Regarding, NLOS and Nimrod, they are definitely game changers but on the other hand, they are expensive, heavy and frankly I don't see any use for them in the Indian Armed Forces, at least on the western border.
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Actually Spike FAILED only in Indian thar and the reason was the heat issue, Javelin on other hand is good but it was a political decision..
Indian army is planning to have stringer and others too in near future, My assumption though..
Indian army is planning to have stringer and others too in near future, My assumption though..
Which is ironic considering it is a Israeli weapon that is supposed to work flawlessly in the the deserts.
RBS-70 NG is a much better platform than stingers or igla.
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I think Pak has more best equipment then India, their Govt supports them well then Indian Babus....
Not exactly, that beggar of a nation cannot procure state of the art SAMs like Spyder or Barak NG so they have to rely on cheaper MANPADS for their air defence. They intend to use swarming tactics to make up for their lack of better equipment.
Fire large number of MANPADS at an incoming aircraft and pray to god that one of them achieves a kill.
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Can they be cheated??
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Not necessarily.
Most of the US equipments are sanction prone(this is a very real threat as Pak not only supports ant-coalition forces in Afghanistan but also is against India,which has a strong lobby base there).
They are looking towards China for most of their equipments(JF17/FC20/ZulfiqarFFG/Qing class subs/Al-Khalid/An12/MBRL's etc) due to the aforementioned scenario.They also get them on soft loans(prostitution fee).
India already have better equipment and in the coming years,the net centric warfare capability of the Indian Armed Forces will negate the conventional and to a certain extent,the unconventional threat they pose.
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BB, actually its more better than Strela 10m we use..
MANPADs such as IGLA are dead on targets..
Yes, the IR seekers on Paki versions are not that advanced so the flares will do the job but swarming can be a issue.
Hence the replacement, either way in Indian Army MANPADS are for mobile offensive formations not for point defence of important institutions. That is not the case with Pakis. The only potent SAM system they have is Spada 2000 which is yet to be inducted and at best is comparable to Akash.
On the other hand we are procuring large number of SAMs.
Both, Chiron and Strastreak sounds good to me.
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Saab's new RBS 70 NG VSHORAD
10 October 2011, in News
On display at AUSA for the first time, Saab's new RBS 70 NG VSHORAD system proved its new 'all target day and night' capability in front of some 100 experts from 17 countries in early September. The highly successful live firing demonstration took place in Sweden just weeks before the official product launch at the DSEi exhibition in London.
The live firing demonstration began with an introduction to the new RBS 70 NG system. This was followed by a presentation of the Giraffe AMB multi mission radar and the accompanying C4I systems, as well as systems for signature adaptation by Barracuda. After the presentations RBS 70 NG was put to its test, starting with target tracking against a fighter aircraft. After this, shots were fired at a small air target, a mast positioned missile target and finally an armoured ground target simulating a hovering attack helicopter. BOLIDE missiles were used for the first two shots and a Mk2 missile for the last shot.
Five out of five
When darkness fell it was back to the test range for two night firings. The first missile was fired against a different air target and the second against an armoured ground target. After completion of each firing, the invited guests were able to inspect the targets at close range.
All five shots hit their targets and the demonstration was met with applause from a highly impressed audience.
Leif Lundin, Director of Marketing and Sales for the Dynamics business area summed up the demonstration: "These days have been extremely rewarding for us. We have received an incredibly positive response from the visitors and have already had requests for quotations."
"The reason for developing the new generation of RBS 70 was to respond to evolving threats and to the changing requirements of our customers," says Leif. There are entirely new possibilities as a result of the features that have been added in response to customers requirements for increased accuracy, greater flexibility and enhanced user friendliness. The ability to engage every kind of target, both in daylight and in darkness, has been further improved with the RBS 70 NG. In addition there is a new 'integrated night capability' and the system can also be easily deployed on a range of vehicles as well as on remote-controlled installations.
Huge interest from the market
The official launch of RBS 70 NG took place during the DSEi exhibition in London, 13 th -16th September. It received considerable attention when it was launched in London, both by trade visitors and the media. A further million TV viewers in the US were exposed to the product when Fox News named RBS 70 NG one of the five most interesting products at the international defence exhibition.
"The high level of interest is naturally a major success for us" says Bill Forsberg, Marketing Manager for the RBS 70 NG. "We see major potential for the RBS 70 NG in the market during the coming years, not least in a number of countries on the American continent which is traditionally a big market for Dynamics' other products."
Notes to the editor
With a new sighting system improved precision and increased all-target capability, the new RBS 70 NG is the latest air defence system presented by Saab.
Now with integrated 24/7 all-target capability Saab's new RBS 70 NG VSHORAD system has been developed for all combat situations. Its integrated sighting solution, enhanced missile operator aids, unmatched range and unjammable laser guidance combine to produce a system with world-leading capabilities.
True All-target capability
The integrated thermal imager and night sight capability combine to provide true 24/7 performance. Three-dimensional target designation and automatic target detection improve reaction times, while the auto-tracker aids the missile operator during engagement, increasing hit probability throughout the missile range.
With the latest generation of missile – the BOLIDE – the RBS 70 NG is directed at the complete air and ground threat spectrum, including long range and close to ground. Everything from fixed and rotary wing aircraft and helicopters down to small targets such as cruise missiles, UAVs and armoured ground targets like APCs can be engaged.
"The NG sight is software-based. New functions like the auto tracker and visual cueing have ultimately resulted in ease of use and increased precision for both small and large targets, even at maximum range," explains Bill Forsberg, Director, Product Management, Saab.
The RBS 70 NG has an effective intercept range of 8 km, with altitude coverage in excess of 5,000 m, making it a best-in-class air defence missile system. It is capable of operating in complex environments such as urban terrain and is well equipped for all environments, including tropical, desert and arctic conditions.
1600 systems sold
With more than 1600 systems, and more than 17 000 missiles sold, the RBS 70 has been procured by 18 nations world wide. The RBS 70, still proves itself to be a highly capable system, being continuously procured, used and appreciated by our demanding customers worldwide.
"Battlefield requirements are however constantly evolving and by having close cooperation with potential as well as existing RBS 70 customers we know that they face new threats and situations that require additional capabilities. By utilizing the latest technological innovations, we developed RBS 70 NG VSHORAD as the answer to their needs" says Jim Nilsson, Director, Marketing & Sales, business area Dynamics.
The RBS 70 NG can be vehicle integrated and used to support manoeuvring troops. The modularity of the system also allows it to be used in a remotely controlled configuration. Specifically aimed at the long-term static air defence of strategic assets, these deployments can last for several weeks or more, in round-the-clock operations. The RBS 70 NG is also the optimal solution for protection in peacetime, for example at high-profile sporting events.
Success for RBS 70 NG VSHORAD
10 October 2011, in News
On display at AUSA for the first time, Saab's new RBS 70 NG VSHORAD system proved its new 'all target day and night' capability in front of some 100 experts from 17 countries in early September. The highly successful live firing demonstration took place in Sweden just weeks before the official product launch at the DSEi exhibition in London.
The live firing demonstration began with an introduction to the new RBS 70 NG system. This was followed by a presentation of the Giraffe AMB multi mission radar and the accompanying C4I systems, as well as systems for signature adaptation by Barracuda. After the presentations RBS 70 NG was put to its test, starting with target tracking against a fighter aircraft. After this, shots were fired at a small air target, a mast positioned missile target and finally an armoured ground target simulating a hovering attack helicopter. BOLIDE missiles were used for the first two shots and a Mk2 missile for the last shot.
Five out of five
When darkness fell it was back to the test range for two night firings. The first missile was fired against a different air target and the second against an armoured ground target. After completion of each firing, the invited guests were able to inspect the targets at close range.
All five shots hit their targets and the demonstration was met with applause from a highly impressed audience.
Leif Lundin, Director of Marketing and Sales for the Dynamics business area summed up the demonstration: "These days have been extremely rewarding for us. We have received an incredibly positive response from the visitors and have already had requests for quotations."
"The reason for developing the new generation of RBS 70 was to respond to evolving threats and to the changing requirements of our customers," says Leif. There are entirely new possibilities as a result of the features that have been added in response to customers requirements for increased accuracy, greater flexibility and enhanced user friendliness. The ability to engage every kind of target, both in daylight and in darkness, has been further improved with the RBS 70 NG. In addition there is a new 'integrated night capability' and the system can also be easily deployed on a range of vehicles as well as on remote-controlled installations.
Huge interest from the market
The official launch of RBS 70 NG took place during the DSEi exhibition in London, 13 th -16th September. It received considerable attention when it was launched in London, both by trade visitors and the media. A further million TV viewers in the US were exposed to the product when Fox News named RBS 70 NG one of the five most interesting products at the international defence exhibition.
"The high level of interest is naturally a major success for us" says Bill Forsberg, Marketing Manager for the RBS 70 NG. "We see major potential for the RBS 70 NG in the market during the coming years, not least in a number of countries on the American continent which is traditionally a big market for Dynamics' other products."
Notes to the editor
With a new sighting system improved precision and increased all-target capability, the new RBS 70 NG is the latest air defence system presented by Saab.
Now with integrated 24/7 all-target capability Saab's new RBS 70 NG VSHORAD system has been developed for all combat situations. Its integrated sighting solution, enhanced missile operator aids, unmatched range and unjammable laser guidance combine to produce a system with world-leading capabilities.
True All-target capability
The integrated thermal imager and night sight capability combine to provide true 24/7 performance. Three-dimensional target designation and automatic target detection improve reaction times, while the auto-tracker aids the missile operator during engagement, increasing hit probability throughout the missile range.
With the latest generation of missile – the BOLIDE – the RBS 70 NG is directed at the complete air and ground threat spectrum, including long range and close to ground. Everything from fixed and rotary wing aircraft and helicopters down to small targets such as cruise missiles, UAVs and armoured ground targets like APCs can be engaged.
"The NG sight is software-based. New functions like the auto tracker and visual cueing have ultimately resulted in ease of use and increased precision for both small and large targets, even at maximum range," explains Bill Forsberg, Director, Product Management, Saab.
The RBS 70 NG has an effective intercept range of 8 km, with altitude coverage in excess of 5,000 m, making it a best-in-class air defence missile system. It is capable of operating in complex environments such as urban terrain and is well equipped for all environments, including tropical, desert and arctic conditions.
1600 systems sold
With more than 1600 systems, and more than 17 000 missiles sold, the RBS 70 has been procured by 18 nations world wide. The RBS 70, still proves itself to be a highly capable system, being continuously procured, used and appreciated by our demanding customers worldwide.
"Battlefield requirements are however constantly evolving and by having close cooperation with potential as well as existing RBS 70 customers we know that they face new threats and situations that require additional capabilities. By utilizing the latest technological innovations, we developed RBS 70 NG VSHORAD as the answer to their needs" says Jim Nilsson, Director, Marketing & Sales, business area Dynamics.
The RBS 70 NG can be vehicle integrated and used to support manoeuvring troops. The modularity of the system also allows it to be used in a remotely controlled configuration. Specifically aimed at the long-term static air defence of strategic assets, these deployments can last for several weeks or more, in round-the-clock operations. The RBS 70 NG is also the optimal solution for protection in peacetime, for example at high-profile sporting events.
Success for RBS 70 NG VSHORAD
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The only advantage of laser guidance is difficulty of spoofing. It isn't all weather and is highly susceptible to operator error. It doesn't get many kills by impacting the target, but by blast fragmentation. Slower, less accurate, less availability, not fire-forget. Not to mention bulky, it takes three men to operate it. The only drawback to IR is susceptibility to flares. It is most likely why the proliferation of IR MANPADs dwarfs that of laser optics.
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No replacement for that as its different category..
IA use MANPADS in mobile also static..
And About PA, ANZA is their main MANPADS but a failed, In kargil PA used only stringers, There Light AD is attached with Infantry when in combat..
Pakistan dont have anything good in terms of SAMs
IA also listed RBS 70 too..
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How a Anti-tank is related to AD ?
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U.S. offering Stinger missiles to India
The US is offering 245 Stinger missiles to India as part of a weapons package for the Apache attack choppers being acquired by the Air Force.
"245 air—to—air Stinger missiles and 56 launchers are included in the weapons package for the Apache helicopters," officials of Raytheon, which manufactures the missiles, told PTI.
"The Stinger complements the advanced performance of the Apache by providing the IAF with the critical air—to—air defence capability," they said.
India has selected the American Apache helicopter for its requirement of 22 attack helicopters which will have both air—to—ground and air—to—air roles in the service.
"Yes, Apache is final now," IAF Chief Air Chief Marshal N A K Browne had recently told a press conference when asked if the service was procuring the American choppers. The two sides are at present negotiating the contract.
The American helicopter edged out the Russian Mi—28 in the race for the IAF contract.
The surface—to—air version of the Stinger missile is widely credited for the collapse of Russian helicopter fleet in Afghan war in 1980s and was also used by Pakistani troops to bring down an IAF Mi—17 helicopter during the Kargil war in 1999.
Commenting on its relations with Indian armed forces, Raytheon said it was "providing advanced air traffic management AutoTrac technology solution for the IAF" as part of Modernisation of Air Field Infrastructure (MAFI) project.
Under the MAFI programme, India is planning to upgrade 30 military air fields to enable them to carry out night operations and operate large—bodied planes such as the C—17 Heavy—lift transport aircraft.
The Hindu : News / National : U.S. offering Stinger missiles to India
The US is offering 245 Stinger missiles to India as part of a weapons package for the Apache attack choppers being acquired by the Air Force.
"245 air—to—air Stinger missiles and 56 launchers are included in the weapons package for the Apache helicopters," officials of Raytheon, which manufactures the missiles, told PTI.
"The Stinger complements the advanced performance of the Apache by providing the IAF with the critical air—to—air defence capability," they said.
India has selected the American Apache helicopter for its requirement of 22 attack helicopters which will have both air—to—ground and air—to—air roles in the service.
"Yes, Apache is final now," IAF Chief Air Chief Marshal N A K Browne had recently told a press conference when asked if the service was procuring the American choppers. The two sides are at present negotiating the contract.
The American helicopter edged out the Russian Mi—28 in the race for the IAF contract.
The surface—to—air version of the Stinger missile is widely credited for the collapse of Russian helicopter fleet in Afghan war in 1980s and was also used by Pakistani troops to bring down an IAF Mi—17 helicopter during the Kargil war in 1999.
Commenting on its relations with Indian armed forces, Raytheon said it was "providing advanced air traffic management AutoTrac technology solution for the IAF" as part of Modernisation of Air Field Infrastructure (MAFI) project.
Under the MAFI programme, India is planning to upgrade 30 military air fields to enable them to carry out night operations and operate large—bodied planes such as the C—17 Heavy—lift transport aircraft.
The Hindu : News / National : U.S. offering Stinger missiles to India
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Looks like another Russian platform will be replaced these stingers
are air to air but the MANPADS are also great beating the Russians in
Afghanistan bringing down many MIG's.
http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/...ues/25041-stinger-missiles-afghanistan-2.html
are air to air but the MANPADS are also great beating the Russians in
Afghanistan bringing down many MIG's.
http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/...ues/25041-stinger-missiles-afghanistan-2.html
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