US may use 'military means' to defend Afghanistan until 2024

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  1. Yusuf

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    The long-waited withdrawal of US troops from Afghanistan may be not as “full” as had been expected. The US will help defend the country militarily for at least a decade after Afghans take control of their security, a National Security Adviser said.
    The pledge is contained in the new strategic pact agreed between the two countries on Sunday, Rangin Dadfar Spanta said on Monday. A section of this pact implies that the US will not to use Afghanistan as a launch pad for attacks on other countries in the region, including for drone strikes.
    However he stressed that the US will only come to Afghanistan's aid with approval from Kabul.
    Washington may use “diplomatic means, political means, economic means and even military means,” the official said, as cited by AP.
    Also under the agreement, after 2014 the US will continue supporting Afghan security forces financially. The US will fork out up to $4 billion annually, if the funding is approved by the Congress.
    However it remains unclear whether Afghanistan would approve such military assistance from the US. The two countries are facing a serious setback in their relations after a number of incidents involving the US troops deployed in Afghanistan.
    In the wake of the Kandahar massacre, when a US soldier shot dead 17 Afghan civilians in a nighttime killing spree, US President Barack Obama pledged to get his troops out of Afghanistan in a “responsible way,” in order to make sure there will be no need to get back in.
    The US has long promised to withdraw its troops by 2014 and hand over control to the Afghan authorities. In February, the US Department of Defense even stated that they were planning to complete withdrawal of the combat troops from Afghanistan by the end of 2013.
    The remaining troops were planned to be transited from a “combat role to a training, advise-and-assist role,” Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said.
    It is not the first time the US has clung tenaciously to the territories its troops set foot into. After the invasion in Iraq in to 2003, it took the US almost nine years, and several postponed deadlines, finally to move all its troops out of the country.
    Between the partial withdrawal in 2010 and the full withdrawal in December 2011, over 50,000 US servicemen, referred to as a "transitional force," were "training, equipping and advising Iraqi Security Forces.” President Barack Obama had discussed with Iraqi officials the possibility of extending the stay of “transitional” troops in Iraq, but they virtually kicked the US troops out of the country.
    Although the army troops were withdrawn, several thousand contractors have reportedly taken over their peacekeeping mission. Besides that, the US is still operating its controversial fleet of drones over Iraq’s territory and, according to the State Department, the military is not planning to scrap its drone surveillance program for at least another five years.

    http://rt.com/news/us-afghanistan-pact-decade-739/
     
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  3. trackwhack

    trackwhack Tihar Jail Banned

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    That should put rest to the debate about whether the US intends to ever leave the gulf.
     
  4. Bhadra

    Bhadra Defence Professionals Defence Professionals Senior Member

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    If someone occupies your house, why should he leave unless driven out !!
     
  5. ejazr

    ejazr Stars and Ambassadors Stars and Ambassadors

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    Some Good News from Afghanistan

    ZALMAY KHALILZAD willhave a slightly optimistic view but still an interesting read nonetheless.

     
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    Basically, the softening of Pakistan to the US is precisely BECAUSE all its other options - China, Saudi Arabia and Russia have failed to deliver.

    The Chinese don't want a destabalised Afghanistan right next to Xinjiang. The Saudis don't like the Taliban for refusing to hand over OBL and have a long running enmity with Al Qaeda and its affiliates. Besides they want Pakistan to cut its relationship with Iran which GoP at present is reluctant to do. And the Russian relationship is to premature to deliver anything to Pakistan.
     
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    Seems like a warning to pak
     
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    I think yes, also the fact that they are economically bleeding rather badly and none of these countries have been able to make them even stand up, like what the US has been able to do in the past, so they are bound to get pragmatic in their approach towards the US, to their interests.

    Also what is certainly staring right on their face is the way India has grown and has continuously increased the defence budget year on year in double digits, which means the balancing act that once Pakistan used to do, that catch up is not happening and somewhere in the bigger game the PA/ISI do realize they are losing out.

    2024 should more than just a ring the bell in the ears of the Pakistanis, and if I am not getting it wrong, like in Iraq, we will get to see a spike in the number of defence contractors entering Afghanistan once the strategic agreement gets signed, and should happen parallel with the official drawdown of troops.
     
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    Very interesting there is also a possibility US may buildup afghanistan militarily against Pakistan?
    When this happen we should also be actively involved.
     
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    This is already happening. The only reason why India had not gone for security ties with ANA in a big way was because the US administrations had wanted India out to keep Musharraf in their good books. Now with the US-Pakistan relations on tenterhooks, Obama no longer has any incentive to keep India out, particularly after the 2014 drawdown when US dependence on Pakistan will be further reduced.

    AFP: Pakistan squeezed by Afghan-India pact

    Keep in mind that India was the FIRST country to sign a strategic security pact with Afghanistan, even before the US finalised this one now. That shows the extent of confidence in Afghan-Indian relations.
     
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    The US is not leaving Afghanistan lock stock and barrel.

    If only people read my link., I gave whenever this issue arose;

    ISAF's new plan for Afghanistan
    A smaller-scale operation in East Afghanistan (RC-East)

    East Afghanistan (RC-East) can be divided into two regions. "Northern" RC-East includes the provinces of Kunar, Nuristan, Laghman, and Nangarhar. "Southern" RC-East includes the provinces of Khost, Paktika, Paktia, Logar, Wardak, and Ghazni.



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    Both the northern and southern regions of East Afghanistan have strong Taliban insurgent activity. Both also provide the Taliban with infiltration routes into Afghanistan from their safe havens in Pakistan. The original 2009 plan called for counterinsurgency operations to be conducted in both of these regions. However, the new plan calls for operations only in a portion of "Southern" RC-East, in the provinces of Wardak, Logar, Ghazni, and Paktia (Paktika and Khost are not included). The plan for operations in "Northern" RC-East has been canceled.

    More at:

    ISAF's new plan for Afghanistan - The Long War Journal
     
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  12. niharjhatn

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    Well, at least it will make for more interesting movies! :D
     
  13. W.G.Ewald

    W.G.Ewald Defence Professionals/ DFI member of 2 Defence Professionals

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    In other news, the sun will be rising in the East tomorrow.
     
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    That can be a reality and perhaps a good ploy by US.

    As per the reports US would help Afgans build an army of 230,000 to 350,000 which is not a small number.This number is enough for taking on Pak army and proven to be a better of a soldier than Pakis even with less resources and hardware.

    Afghans are getting tired of Pak treating it as it's colony and using it as it's backyard.Afganistan was once a moderate Islamic republic but due to Pakistan turned into a land of extremists and center of terrorist organizations. A lot of Afghans hate Pak for this.
     

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