No baiting, please!
"A slippery slope where you saw Indian soldiers bodies returned back with torture signs all over it."It is a big deal and let me tell you why. You have a code of conduct, even in the heat of battle. Even with inhuman people like these terrorist or else it leads to a slippery slope. A slippery slope where you saw Indian soldiers bodies returned back with torture signs all over it. you have to have your soldiers maintain higher standards... At all times. Now these guys are a handful but the marine core will investigate and dole the appropriate punishment that fits the misconduct. It is misconduct and not a 'crime'
The funny thing is that now that US is enganing in peace talks with the Taliban, the Taliban are acting mature and saying that this won't hamper peace talksDefense.gov News Article: Geneva Convention Applies to Taliban, not Al Qaeda
WASHINGTON, Feb. 7, 2002 – President Bush said the United States would regard the Geneva Conventions as applying to Taliban detainees under U.S. control -- but not Al Qaeda detainees.
Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said today the United States would continue to treat all detainees humanely and in accordance with standards set by the Geneva Conventions.
Bush's decision does not materially change the way all detainees will be treated by the United States nor does it confer prisoner of war status on Taliban members. U.S. officials will continue to call both Taliban and Al Qaeda members "detainees."
Afghanistan signed the Geneva Convention of 1949. U.S. government lawyers determined the convention applies to Taliban captured since the war on terrorism began.
"The reality is the set of facts that exist today with the Al Qaeda and the Taliban were not necessarily the set of facts that were considered when the Geneva Convention was fashioned," Rumsfeld said in the Pentagon in an informal talk during the signing of a U.S.-Canada agreement on the Joint Strike Fighter.
Rumsfeld said the president decided the Al Qaeda would not fit under the Geneva Convention, because the Geneva Convention is an instrument among states in conflict. "The Al Qaeda is not a state; it is a terrorist organization," he said.
Bush decided that the Taliban would fit in the framework of the convention even though neither the United Nations nor virtually any country in the world recognized the Taliban as Afghanistan's legitimate government.
Rumsfeld said U.S. lawyers took their time in making their assessment because, "while it makes no difference in how these individuals will be treated, it could be considered a precedent for the future."
The decision means there is no need for tribunals under the Geneva Convention to judge the status of the Taliban or Al Qaeda detainees. The convention is written in a way that, in areas where there is doubt about the status of detainees, a tribunal sets their status. The tribunal is really a screening process, Rumsfeld said. However, a screening process has been in place since the detainees were captured. The process includes the defense establishment, the Department of Justice and the Central Intelligence Agency, he said.
The Geneva Convention tribunal process should not be confused with the proposed military commissions the United States may use to try some detainees for crimes.
It is a tricky question. Taliban thinks the US has occupied its country. The US should also remember well how for a couple of decades it toed the line of one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter. At the end of the day, it's all about victors justice. The US has clearly stayed away from ICJ and does not recognize its authority and any indictment of war crimes. Smart policy considering the number of wars the US makes. "Far sighted" I would sayThis is a tricky question.
It applies to soldiers (people who are in uniform) and civilians in the war zone
Interestingly, it also considers armed conflict against colonial domination and foreign occupation as having qualified as an international conflict.
There are many reasons why the US troops at times behave like this.I am not a soldier or anything like it, but I believe there should be some civility when conducting war. The dead should be respected and left in peace; it doesn't matter if they were your enemies and it doesn't matter how reprehensible they were.
Maybe I am asking for too much, but I think such actions by soldiers are disgusting and degrades the professionalism of modern armies. This is a universal rule that applies to all armies, and I am proud that the IA has historically had a good record of treating the fallen with respect.
That is true that they were backing the Pakistanis who trotted out the line that the so called Kashmiri terrorists operating in Kashmir were Freedom Fighters and not terrorists.It is a tricky question. Taliban thinks the US has occupied its country. The US should also remember well how for a couple of decades it toed the line of one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter. At the end of the day, it's all about victors justice. The US has clearly stayed away from ICJ and does not recognize its authority and any indictment of war crimes. Smart policy considering the number of wars the US makes. "Far sighted" I would say
Sir, old Hindi saying, jiski lathi, uski bhains.That is true that they were backing the Pakistanis who trotted out the line that the so called Kashmiri terrorists operating in Kashmir were Freedom Fighters and not terrorists.
However, in geopolitics, there is nothing that is permanent.
It now suit the US to toe another line and so that is why they are following a new path that is contrary to the old refrain of yesteryears.
And it is true that the US considers itself a law by themselves.
But is there anyone to challenge them and prove that they are wrong?
Saw this minutes ago, looking for the video to post. Apparently sniper team members pissed on dead bodies of terrorists. This is not the conduct we approve but it is no Abu Gharib. Stand by for updates...
LiveLeak.com - Marines Humiliating dead Taliban insurgents by urinating on their bodies. Watch video here
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