US immunity to Pak's ISI in 26/11 a serious disappointment, India says

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    NEW DELHI: Expressing "serious disappointment" over the US submission that Pakistan's intelligence agency ISI be accorded "immunity" in the case related to 26/11 filed by the relatives of victims of Mumbai terror attack, India today said it was a "matter of deep and abiding concern."

    India, which raised its concerns on Monday with the US State Department after being informed of the US' view, also asserted that it cannot be that any organisation, State or non-State that sponsors terrorism enjoys immunity.

    Reacting to the US decision, official spokesperson in the ministry of external affairs said, "We have noted that the US Department of State has taken the position in a US Court that the Pakistani ISI be accorded immunity from the civil suit on the Mumbai terrorist attack of November 26, 2008.

    "For India, it remains of vital importance that justice is done and that those who organised and perpetrated this horrible crime be brought to justice, irrespective of the jurisdiction under which they may reside or be operating. It cannot be that any organisation, State or non-State, that sponsors terrorism enjoys immunity.

    "Our position has been made known to the United States consistently .

    "India is not a party to the civil suit filed in the Eastern District Court of New York. The details of what was conveyed to the Court by a sovereign government are a matter for that government to explain.

    "From our perspective, this decision is a matter of deep and abiding concern. The leadership of the US has publicly stated its commitment to counter terrorism, to dismantle terrorist infrastructure in Pakistan and to bring those responsible for the Mumbai terror attacks to justice. In this context the decision of the US authorities in this case is a cause of serious disappointment."

    The US authorities have submitted before Eastern District New York court that Pakistan's ISI and its former chiefs Ahmed Shuja Pasha and Nadeem Taj "enjoy immunity" in a case related to the 26/11 attacks filed by American survivors and relatives of victims of the Mumbai terror strikes.

    "In the view of the United States, the ISI is entitled to immunity because it is part of a foreign state within the meaning of the FSIA (Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act)," it submitted.

    US immunity to Pak's ISI in 26/11 a serious disappointment, India says - TOI Mobile | The Times of India Mobile Site
     
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    Re: US immunity to Pak's ISI in 26/11 a serious disappointment, India

    Always the Americans are doing this. WE INDIANS because of Madam Sonia are bowing in front of these idiots. We have to do something to thrash pakistan and ISI. We really lack a dynamic leader like Sardar Patel ji, Indra Gandhi........
     
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    We have to turn against the Americans and protect our motherland..........

    I don't know why we are being stopped by the Americans and why they are protecting pakistan like that.......
     
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    for American govt ,kasab was a gunman and not a terrorist , where as Hamas are terrorists !!! It was refered like that by the American govt.,after the execution of kasab took place!!! This was tweeted by none other than our Kashmir CM Omar abdullahji!!!!
     
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    Re: US immunity to Pak's ISI in 26/11 a serious disappointment, India

    :facepalm: Please honor Obama with another Nobel Peace Prize !
     
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    Re: US immunity to Pak's ISI in 26/11 a serious disappointment, India

    I can think of 2 reasons why US needs a wh0re in the region, 1) access to Central Asia and 2) to stop India from becoming too powerful (keep it bogged down in a military conflict).
     
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    and have a listening post near china and iran also apart from India.
     
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    they keep trusting pak until they discover there has been leakage then the trust level goes down
    this is a gradual spiral downwards

    i suppose that 's the more stable way - better way - only way - realistic way

    .....our concern is it shouldnt be too gradual
     
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    Nothing wrong with US giving a free pass to Pakistan when India is inviting Pakis to play cricket in India.
     
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    Re: US immunity to Pak's ISI in 26/11 a serious disappointment, India

    Te US giving immunity to ISI itself is an admission front then that they expect ISI to be incriminated in the case.

    But really let's not get worked up by this. Even if ISI was incriminated nothing would have come out of it. Let's be practical. US needs Pakis for a bit longer. Plus John Kerry is batting for Pak. So expect all this. Remember India has to support Iran and do business with it. Everyone has their geo political needs.
     
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    Terrorist attack is nothing short of war crimes. International law dont accept immunity for such crime against civilians. If this is allowd then in future talibs and all others will use this provisions or individals take matter in their own hand and will deliver instant Justice.

    Instant justice to Pasha does anyone knows what it means?
     
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    Those who can not help themselves ................................

    Like @nrj; said if Indians can act like smart a$$ diplomats engaging with Pakistani trolls like Rehman Malik and cricket etc. then USA has all the rights to use technicalities and legalities to be good with Pakistanis who never disappoint them bending the way American want on just a whistle.

    There were already many twinkles that USA-Pak relations are becoming normal and whatever good for India came in last year and before has to fade away this year.
     
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    US doesn't like Iran. While it insists that other countries should avoid having any relationship with Iran, it follows it up with its own example as well. I agree with the posters here. India goes around talking about the connection between Pakistani army and the terrorists but then follows it up by sending invitation for Pakistanis to visit our country!
     
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    Thats okay. Dealing with iran now we dont have to keep US concens in mind.
     
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    Why blame the US when Indian Americans are showering money into the Democrat money-pot?
     
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    Democrats are bad news to India! :sad: But then, Indians in general wished election victory for Bill Clinton and now Obama! :confused:
     
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    Suits us right. We have no idea where to put our money.
     
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    you mean Indian origin american citizens right ?

    since they are not Indian citizens how should India be blamed ?
     
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    Why always looking at US... they need Pakis for their own "Use & Abuse" and India should make use of their own resources to tackle terrorism.

    Why do we have so many intelligence agencies???
     

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