US has 'snatch-and-grab' plan for Pak's nuke weapons

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Well for me the best thing that is possible is a terror attack in the US linked to Pak. That would be all.
How insensitive can that be? Why not just send India's special forces to Pakistan since in the past 2 months alone several lives have been lost to an obviously Pakistani actions inside India?
 

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same way they have done in the past and do so for north korea. They have also given the failed state a nuke deal.
Actually it was Pakistan that helped NoKor acquire nuclear weapons. As far as I know China is against the idea that its troublesome ally should acquire nuclear weapons since it would certainly means that the neighbors SoKor and Japan would be pushed to seriously contemplate arming themselves with nuclear weapons.
 
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Actually it was Pakistan that helped NoKor acquire nuclear weapons. As far as I know China is against the idea that its troublesome ally should acquire nuclear weapons since it would certainly means that the neighbors SoKor and Japan would be pushed to seriously contemplate arming themselves with nuclear weapons.
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This has already happened and USA did not respond this way.

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Well another one. Shazad missed it. But it would have been a vital terror attack which would led to carpet bombing of Pakistan. Damn him he missed. It would have woken america from it's slumber over pak sponsored terror worldwide.
 

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Actually it was Pakistan that helped NoKor acquire nuclear weapons. As far as I know China is against the idea that its troublesome ally should acquire nuclear weapons since it would certainly means that the neighbors SoKor and Japan would be pushed to seriously contemplate arming themselves with nuclear weapons.
And Pakistan is a friend of China, lest you forget ! And you really think that Pakistan helped NK in its n-bomb efforts without the knowledge of China ?? If China was a responsible power, they would have stopped such a thing in the first place. No country on the planet knows more about NK than the Chinese, they are only country to have clout in Pyongyang.

SK and Japan don't need nukes to fight off NK, they have Uncle Sam to provide them necessary protection.
 

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Logistically, there is no way on earth US can pull this off without India's involvement, even if such involvement is covert or limited only to logistic support......now ask yourself, is the GOI gutsy enough to go ahead....NO!.....so there go any such plans up in smoke.
Afghanistan is the other place they can launch such an attack from. Besides, there's always the sea. India should not in anyway involve itself in this. It will be a soft-target for retaliation. On the other hand, Pakistan can't do crap to US.
 

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It is virtually impossible for US alone to capture or destroy all the nuke warheads. What if, some of the warheads are stored in POK where PLA is present, US is not gonna try any operation out there, as it will be like having a war with China -PAK combined.

Only possibility of grabbing the most of warheads is to have revolt in PAk Army & the rebellion faction comes in support of the operation.
Frankly speaking, firstly, US is probably the only nation that knows where exactly all Pakistani nukes are stored since they have provided more than hundreds of million of dollars in securing those nukes. There's hardly anything that Pakistan can hide from the US.

Secondly, even if nukes are present in POK, the US can still take them out or seize them, and PLA can't do squat about it ! PLA is not a fool that it will engage with US forces when they are themselves in a foreign land ! And if PLA elements are present in a place where Pakistani nukes are stored, then that will certify the fact that China is openly helping Pakistan in its nuclear programs which is against NPT to which it is a signatory.

Third, its no where mentioned that the US will seize them and take them away, they can simply put American special forces in place of Pakistani troops to guard some of these facilities, with substantial aerial support for temporary periods till they safely transport or dispose off those nukes outside Pakistan. Or they can suppress them completely by firing heavy fuel-air warheads directly over those locations from anywhere outside Pakistan.

And believe me, with the kind of resources at its disposal, it can surely carry out such an operation, albeit with some initial difficulties even without India or Afghanistan's help.
 
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How insensitive can that be? Why not just send India's special forces to Pakistan since in the past 2 months alone several lives have been lost to an obviously Pakistani actions inside India?
Yes it sounds insensitive but that's the language US understood with 9/11 when terror struck home. Till then they never heard Indian concerns over Pak sponsored terror. Refused to acknowledge terror even towing Pak line of them being freedom fighters.

Even after that they continued to wink at Pak proliferation, gave Pak billions and called it a Major Non NATO ally.

So as insensitive or sadistic it might sound, but that's the only thing that can put Pak into it's place. Hillary Clinton said as much some time back that any attack on US soil tracing to Pak will have devastating consequences.
 

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Logistically, there is no way on earth US can pull this off without India's involvement, even if such involvement is covert or limited only to logistic support......now ask yourself, is the GOI gutsy enough to go ahead....NO!.....so there go any such plans up in smoke.

An op like this would need a lot of manpower and back up plans and contingency scenarios, all of which would need massive logistical support. there is no way they can launch this op from AF- so India is the only logical option. Also, any start of thi sop would invariably attract retaliation from pak towards India and we may see the odd nuke lobbed over......not a pretty thought.

so this looks more like a wet dream IMHO
are u serious...??when 3/4th of pakistani radars and corps are stationed on the Indian side u expect US to conduct a military ops from India...and secondly US has more logistical support from their bases from AF than from India...
 
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If USA has no other choice they can launch an operation from Central Asia. Long ranger bombers also can be used from anywhere.
 

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When the Yanks didn't do it till now, I don't see why/how they'll do it in the near future .. assuming that there are no dramatic shifts.
It isn't that the Americans didn't know before about the Pakistani character of being a terror factory. From the government to the people, they all know it, God the whole world knows it !!
The US is living in a awful & pathetic denial over the threats emanating from Pakistan, as escapist as we are in India about the corruption and rot in our politics.

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Logistics will be taken care by India if required. Initial strikes will be from it's carriers and it will establish air superiority in no time. I don't think the US will put boots on the ground, that would be suicide, but it will take out a lot of military and militant infrastructure which surely will benefit India.
 

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^^ Securing weapon storage sectors in some cases would require the use of ground troops, they cannot go on bombing every where, especially if that particular storage center is near to an civilian area, which will very much be the case for a lot of sites.
 

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My question is: How? Even if it has all the info, which is not possible, how will it snatch and grab Pakistani nukes? They are not lying there assembled and ready in one place. Knowing Pakistani terrain, they could be anywhere between Balochistan and Chitral. It would take eons to find out all the nukes even if US manages to buy out a few generals and scientists.

As much as this mission is favorable, it is not practical. The only way they can do that is get all the top Pakistani officials (90% generals and scientists) either captured, maimed and interrogated, or simply killed so that the secret dies with them and no one else is able to use the nukes.
 

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^^ Securing weapon storage sectors in some cases would require the use of ground troops, they cannot go on bombing every where, especially if that particular storage center is near to an civilian area, which will very much be the case for a lot of sites.
No I was talking about full scale war with men on the ground. I was talking in the context of a terror attack tracing to Pak and US then responding. Securing nukes will require special ops. Really doubt all 100 nukes can be 100% secured but the US has a lot to do with installing security systems on those nukes which would mean they know how to sabotage it.
 

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Now tell those pakis to use f-16 that they always brag of .... Pak also threatened to start a war if US try anything fancy. I wonder how would they do that ? O ya they can beg chinese to help and send thier jehadi uav ..tthis is gonna be intresting to watch . All the retard mullahs in pakistan start praying and get ready to meet your seven virgins (i hope they are there otherwise all the brainwashed jehadis r royally screwed):) loll
 

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For all we know those US Special Forces Team may have just came from a sortie deep inside Pakistan that's why their flight path was more or less figured out by the Pakis and then tipped to the waiting Talibs on the border. There's really that Pakistan can do to stop these US incursions. The more important lesson from these US operations is that nuke deterrence does not always deter.
 

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Pakis keep boasting/warning that they'll nuke India, if US tries to grab their nukes.
It only shows what scumbags they are.
 

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Pakis keep boasting/warning that they'll nuke India, if US tries to grab their nukes.
It only shows what scumbags they are.
And there will be Indian retaliation. Pakistan will not only lose its nukes but itself.
 

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