US defends Asian alliances against China criticism

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  1. Ray

    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    Given China's new found aggressive postures and hegemonic pursuits, there is no doubt that without America's alliances in the Asia-Pacific the region would be more volatile.

    It is the US presence that cooled off the China Philippines crisis and has checked to some extent China's grab in the South China Seas.

    The US' new partnerships with the likes of India, Myanmar and Vietnam wasn't an indication of the US imposing its will but, in actuality, responding to strong demand for it from the region to countervail the Chinese grab methodology.

    There is no doubt that the US' 'Asia Pivot' directional strategy is preventing China from having a free run.

    Therefore, it is not usual that wails are fear crazed emanating from China's Defense Minister Chang Wanquan and Xi beating his chest with the mush of 'multipolar world'.
     
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    China can whine all it wants, this is a good opportunity for India to capitalize on this pivot by the US. As it is, US seems to be fine with Indian military and missile up gradation, we should push for much more and set ourself as a counter to China. We just have to be careful where we draw the line with the US and as long as our economy grows at a good clip, economic considerations will keep US arm twisting to a minimum.

    China is stuck here as it has no real allies in the region save for Pakland who itself is a slave state of the US. It will obviously pivot towards Russia. :lol:

    If as reports suggest US economy improves and with new found shale reserves its dependants on ME reducing, Asia would be where US next sets it eyes. None of this looks good for China.
     
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    Russia has no option but to tilt to China, particularly with its economy hit severely by falling crude and India diversifying its purchases. China has no option but to work with Russia since virtually their entire arsenal is after all Russia knock-off and the only country that has a hope to counter US militarily is still good old Russia. Both don't like each other but have little choice in the matter.

    Russia will not antagonize India beyond a point though a gradual shift away is inevitable both as India grows on its own and closer to the west. Though the help Russia has given India overtly and covertly through the years is remarkable and we should always remember that. India is well placed and needs to play both blocks, it just needs to be very careful and grow as much as possible to defend against arm twisting and power-plays from either side.
     
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    It is in absolutely no-one's interests for the U.S. to quit East Asia and abandon its regional alliances with East Asian countries. Of course the P.R.C. wants the U.S. out because the U.S. presence is a countervailing force and influence to the P.R.C.'s own presence and influence in the region. Several countries from both Northeast and Southeast Asia, such as Singapore, have always encouraged the U.S. presence in East Asia as a moderating presence and a force for stability in the region.
     
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    no smoking Senior Member Senior Member

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    I would say it is natural result of the power balance shift rather than "no option". If you check the history, you will find such alliance re-arrangements:

    1950s-1960s, Sino-Soviet alliance VS USA;
    1970s-1980s, Sino-America alliance VS Soviet;
    and now, Sino-Russia alliance VS USA.

    Basically, the 2 weaker would stand together against the strong one.

    Forget about India, she is never in the great game. No one is interested in bring India to the table. India is cursed by her geological location--too close to Middle East. If India dominants IOC, Middle East will be under India's control, which means the whole world oil market will be at India's mercy.
     
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    It sounds like a mouthpiece of CCP talking again as in the past. It is a scripted statement and nothing new in it. Good luck with your assertion. India is gaining more importance from rest of the nations on this planet. Whether you accept or not is irrelevant. We march to our own tune.
     
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    It was in Kipling's writings about India that the name "the great game" was invented. It was first mentioned in Kim, if I rightly remember.

    Anyway, India and the Indian subcontinent are in a central geographical position between East and West Asia and cannot be ignored.

    I was nearly right.
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    Let Sun Tzu not be too far from your mind
     
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    A label is of little importance compared to the substance.

    Of course, India is a poor country and cannot hope to be in this 'great game'. We are happy playing both sides of the 'great game' to our advantage. We'll leave China to play this 'great game'. Good luck. :lol:

    ME will be decreasingly significant with shale in the picture. You are presumably Chinese, please think decades ahead. :thumb:
     
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    US foreign policies have always been building up alliance against countries that threaten freedom. If you look at the map. Both Russian and China are surrounded by US allies or countries friendly toward them. Americans don't fight alone. She bring all her friends and everyone one of them carries big guns.
     
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    I want to point out one last thing. The Republican party now control almost every part of the US government. From local, states, and federal. The only thing they do not control is the White House. Republican is expected to win the White House in 2016. That means all level of government now in the hand of the Republican Party.

    Obama have damaged the Democrat party so badly they won't have a chance to get back in power until 2025 at the earliest which most people will doubt.

    If you think Obama is harsh on both China and Russia wait until a Republican win the White House. No money in the world would I want to be in Russian or China shoe when that happen. On the other hand it's happy hours for countries that dislike Russia and China. China and Russia should be preparing for at least 10 years of painful relation with the USA.
     
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    Latika_singer A simple user of DFI

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    :rofl:
    this is a joke?
    the US is interested for asian products...therefore the US defends the asian alliances...
     
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    I dont know what you are smoking but this is the most ridiculous :bs: I have ever read.
     

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