US Deep State

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@pmaitra this idea of a deep state itself needs a re look. We assume the deep state to be a permanent monolith organization which has a lot of inertia and takes a very long term view on issues of national interest, but in reality, after the collapse of a unipolar and bipolar world order the institutional interests of the western deep states are slightly longer than that of an elected government which lasts 4 years.

Just a few hours ago, Merkel has made a scathing remark that "the US is not a reliable ally" "Germany must look out for its own interest". And they are justified in thinking so given that Trump is leaving no stone unturned to behave in a petty manner. On one hand they give 300B$ weapons to Saudi and humiliate EU nations for a petty few Billions in NATO commitments.

The Abrahamic world has a doctrine of keeping their people engaged in elaborate conspiracy theories. I've been following these right wing and left wing youtube channels, and the narratives are quite elaborate but in reality, they are both puppets of the administration which is playing them so that, instead of "us 99% people versus the 1% administration" the narrative becomes "us 50% left wingers versus them 50% right wingers" thereby splitting the peasant's consolidation right in the middle. In that process, if a few politicians get smeared, it is a legitimate price to pay from the point of view of the administration. Such conspiracy theories are also rife in Muslim countries, just to keep the public confused.

We used to think that the US deep state is in bed with the German deep state given that both are Protestant Christian nations and the US uses German soil as a conduit for intel data links despite German civil society groups opposing it, but after Merkel's statement and also other things like Brexit, it appears that there is no permanent deep state in the west and it is only those who temporarily ride the wave of wealth and power who use their 15 minutes of fame to try to shape the system a little bit in their favor, like FB founder trying to dictate cyber laws.

We used to think that the US deep state is anti-China but if you look at the past 30 years, as Chinese economy grew, it co-opted American investors who in turn influenced the deep state and the US economy is more integrated with China than ever, tactical issues in SCS aside. For it to be called a deep state, it needs to have some ideological inertia. It cannot be run on free market principles, which the US is doing.

The real deep state can be said to be China, Pakistan, Iran since they have pushed on with their agenda, often at the cost of their other interests. Pakistan would lose soldiers, and land and reputation and investments, but it hold on to its opinion, even at the cost of its people. That's deep state. The US is known to switch sides based on the fortunes of whoever they are dealing with.

+1 to what @prasadr14 said. There is no pattern of an American deep state. Whoever happens to be the richest businessman at that point in time decides their policy. First they were anti-Muslim, now they patronize Saudi Arabia, first they were pro EU, now they themselves covertly engineered Brexit, first they wanted to get rid of Iran, now they have signed a nuclear deal with them, first they wanted to stem the rise of China, now they have a vested interest in Chinese prosperity as their economies are intertwined, first they were pro Israeli settlements, now they are urging Israel to stop settlements, first they wanted to stem the rise of India, now they call India a 'net security provider in the IOR'. These are hard policy shifts, not just rhetoric change. It's a quantum shift in policies which happens every 10 years.

More like, deeply confused state.
 

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Well nice one which is saying whats happening all around ..now this brings me to my next question ..they had destroyed Libya,Iraq,Syria,Yemen will start next Lebanon and Iran ..now they will sure need Pakistan to topple Iran which brings us india in direct conflict with their interest ..So will the deep state start targeting us to get its job done..

Plus the deep state as grossly underestimated the ISIS and other groups after its removal of Saddam in Iraq ..Now if they enter Iran is there another big headache awaiting for them much more serious than the ISIS in Iraq and Syria ..

Well now the dragon has grown out bigger than the cave it was hiding..Well now i feel it will start spreading its wings and wanted to breathe some fire out of its mouth..They have a very large weapons industry which can flourish if they take sides in a Iran Vs Usa war ..Which will accomplish their ultimate goal of finishing of USA and they taking over as World leader both in economy and military front ..

We are in for a future of full surprising times ahead ..especially with a huge population getting radicalised in the Wahhabi mosques in kerala,WB,UP,MP,Bihar,TN and in Kashmir ..

 

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I also think 911 was a inside job, many experts in sciences believe that 911 WTC building was "controlled demolition". was initiated as the pathway for the Bush's admin to start the infamous "5 year strategic war program to destabilize 7 middle eastern countries" courtesy to some pentagon generals who wrote the paper, came into limelight in 2007, Later extended under Obama administration and now Trump administration.


It stated clearly that the new strategic shift in the interest of United States of America would be to take control of middle east, the strategy was like this:

1. Need a cause/diversion to wage war and unsymmetrical warfare in middle east under the 5 year plans to topple 7 regimes in middle east to establish forward bases.
2. Need to pacify the US citizen to give congress a means for the waging war.
3. Need actors for the cause of the war.
4. Meanwhile need a world wide phenomenon to divert the attention of the masses.
5. Need to have state owned actors that would pacify the need of waging war using allied forces, (mostly Christian nations).
6. Once the US citizens and the whole world deem fit to wage war, establish forward bases using lap dog nations like UAE.
7. Initiate the 5 year program to destabilize geopolitical theatre and create a "vacuum", thus less resources to dissolve economies.

Let's see how it all went:

1. 911 WTC terrorist attack and Coalition led Iraq war ... Check.





2. Terrorist killed thousands of US citizens, and a barbaric dictator having WMDs to create a scar/insult to a nation who was thought to be untouched ... Check.

3. Osama Bin Laden and Saddam Hussain as the bad guys ... Check. (Whom we are kidding, bin laden comes from the stables of CIA) ... Check.

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4. Global Terrorism, Fake WMD crisis as the world wide phenomenon and the rise of Islamophobia ... Check.








5. Let's see, we have Dick Chaney as VP, Collin Powel and Condoleezza Rice as Sec.of.State, Donald Rumsfeld and Robert Gates as Sec.of.Defense, CIA director George Tenet, FBI directors (lot's of Nazi era family guys) Pickard and Mueller ... Check.



6. UAE as the humble lap dog, who also funded for the 911 (Came into limelight in 2012, Obama and Hillary rushed to dissolve the issue by not passing the bill for the 911 commission) when some families reported that there were several cables for funds transfer from Saudi country ... Check.

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7. Start the war with Afghanistan, than Iraq, than Libya, than Sudan, than Somalia, than Syria, than Lebanon



Fun fact: Out of these 7 countries only Lebanon and Iran are still untouched.
 

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America's $350 billion weapons deal with Saudi is confirmation that invasion of Iran is planned in near future.US and Saudi will jointly invade Iran and cause conflict,war and mess it up like Syria.
 

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America's $350 billion weapons deal with Saudi is confirmation that invasion of Iran is planned in near future.US and Saudi will jointly invade Iran and cause conflict,war and mess it up like Syria.
Only problem is that Saudis don't have balls. They are shit scared of Iran. As Robert gates once said Saudi will fight Iran till last American.
 

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America's $350 billion weapons deal with Saudi is confirmation that invasion of Iran is planned in near future.US and Saudi will jointly invade Iran and cause conflict,war and mess it up like Syria.
Yup it's very likely, they are attacking IRAN on the 4th spectrum of warfare to delay there plutonium enrichment facility, courtesy of "stuxnet virus". But NATO has also been amassing near Iran. Newer forward bases have been established to aid in an upcoming war.
 

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Well nice one which is saying whats happening all around ..now this brings me to my next question ..they had destroyed Libya,Iraq,Syria,Yemen will start next Lebanon and Iran ..now they will sure need Pakistan to topple Iran .
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I don't think they re gonna use paklanders to topple iranian regime.
The venerable and holiest saudis are working hard on it, along with their sunni buddies and uncle sam of the democracy fame.

Over the last month saudi kings were saying stuff like we'll invade and destroy iran blah blah and iran replied that we'll raze saudi to the ground. Didn't make too big on MSM.
Also recently US concluded some $300+ B worth weapons deals with saudis.
The US seems adamant on destroying Iran. (Iran has the largest natural gas reserves, and among the largest oil reserves and controls a geopolitical strategic area of the world.)

Interesting times ahead
 

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I think it's not US deep state but Western world Deep State. US population interests are NOT paramount.

The main game plan is to keep Oil prices high. If Oil comes down to its natural price of US$ 10 dollar per barrel, the current world order will end.
 

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7. Start the war with Afghanistan, than Iraq, than Libya, than Sudan, than Somalia, than Syria, than Lebanon



Fun fact: Out of these 7 countries only Lebanon and Iran are still untouched.
Well lebanon is allready divided country (with type of constitution have) what point of attacking them.

IRAN may be due to ISREAL

I was thing why this people dont have any paln regarding EAST Asia /china/north korea
 

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@pmaitra this idea of a deep state itself needs a re look. We assume the deep state to be a permanent monolith organization which has a lot of inertia and takes a very long term view on issues of national interest, but in reality, after the collapse of a unipolar and bipolar world order the institutional interests of the western deep states are slightly longer than that of an elected government which lasts 4 years.
Of course the Deep State is not a monolith. As a matter of fact, it can be a combination of various for-profit entities, whether they manufacture overpriced weapons or print pieces of paper with weird symbols on it. The only issue is, this conglomerate of entities may at times have conflicting interests. For example, I was a staunch believer in BRICS, but I have softened my support for it since I came to know about who coined the term BRICS (the term that was coined was BRIC to be precise, but that is besides the point).
Just a few hours ago, Merkel has made a scathing remark that "the US is not a reliable ally" "Germany must look out for its own interest". And they are justified in thinking so given that Trump is leaving no stone unturned to behave in a petty manner. On one hand they give 300B$ weapons to Saudi and humiliate EU nations for a petty few Billions in NATO commitments.
You are correct, assuming what Merkel said prima facie is what is cooking in the back-burner.
The Abrahamic world has a doctrine of keeping their people engaged in elaborate conspiracy theories. I've been following these right wing and left wing youtube channels, and the narratives are quite elaborate but in reality, they are both puppets of the administration which is playing them so that, instead of "us 99% people versus the 1% administration" the narrative becomes "us 50% left wingers versus them 50% right wingers" thereby splitting the peasant's consolidation right in the middle. In that process, if a few politicians get smeared, it is a legitimate price to pay from the point of view of the administration. Such conspiracy theories are also rife in Muslim countries, just to keep the public confused.
Of course, right and left are both puppets to the same cabal that keep the plebs fighting while they can enjoy the life of opulence. Oh, well, loud calls of patriotism sells. Just think about it - so many American soldiers, sailors, and airmen lost their lives fighting Nazi Germany, and today, the warmonger John McCain goes to Ukraine and hangs out with the Ukro-Nazis and is applauded as a "war hero," apparently for going beyond the brief over Vietnam while in the Navy, getting shot down, and taken prisoner. In an ideal world, he would be stripped of his uniform.
We used to think that the US deep state is in bed with the German deep state given that both are Protestant Christian nations and the US uses German soil as a conduit for intel data links despite German civil society groups opposing it, but after Merkel's statement and also other things like Brexit, it appears that there is no permanent deep state in the west and it is only those who temporarily ride the wave of wealth and power who use their 15 minutes of fame to try to shape the system a little bit in their favor, like FB founder trying to dictate cyber laws.
You are correct, there is no permanent Deep State, and as I mentioned, participating entities' priorities change, and one thing is constant thought, that, Russia is the only country capable of challenging the US, and no, I am not talking about the nuclear warheads here.
We used to think that the US deep state is anti-China but if you look at the past 30 years, as Chinese economy grew, it co-opted American investors who in turn influenced the deep state and the US economy is more integrated with China than ever, tactical issues in SCS aside. For it to be called a deep state, it needs to have some ideological inertia. It cannot be run on free market principles, which the US is doing.
Ideology is merely a vehicle to gather people onto one side so that they can be pushed to fight conflicts, get killed, or worse still, get maimed and become a vegetable. The ones who make war do not typically fight wars.
The real deep state can be said to be China, Pakistan, Iran since they have pushed on with their agenda, often at the cost of their other interests. Pakistan would lose soldiers, and land and reputation and investments, but it hold on to its opinion, even at the cost of its people. That's deep state. The US is known to switch sides based on the fortunes of whoever they are dealing with.
PRC, Pakistan, Iran, all have their own interests. The Chinese are very hard working, to the point they would make our hardest working people look like lazy bums. The Iranians are extremely proud of their heritage, and hate being referred to either as Arabs or Middle Eastern. The Pakistanis are blessed with an excellent geographical location which they can leverage easily, and are masters of keeping the right balance between the US, and PRC.
+1 to what @prasadr14 said. There is no pattern of an American deep state. Whoever happens to be the richest businessman at that point in time decides their policy. First they were anti-Muslim, now they patronize Saudi Arabia, first they were pro EU, now they themselves covertly engineered Brexit, first they wanted to get rid of Iran, now they have signed a nuclear deal with them, first they wanted to stem the rise of China, now they have a vested interest in Chinese prosperity as their economies are intertwined, first they were pro Israeli settlements, now they are urging Israel to stop settlements, first they wanted to stem the rise of India, now they call India a 'net security provider in the IOR'. These are hard policy shifts, not just rhetoric change. It's a quantum shift in policies which happens every 10 years.

More like, deeply confused state.
I think there is always a consistent patter if the threat is consistent. The US Deep State is not anti-Muslim. The US is pro-Sunni and anti-Shia. I also strongly believe the US Deep State, Israel, and Saudi Arabia are in bed with all the strifes going on around the world. The US Deep State has a pattern. They create chaos, in which they succeed. Then they try to control that chaos, in which they fail, without exception.

These are just my views, but feel free to add more perspectives.
 

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I think it's not US deep state but Western world Deep State. US population interests are NOT paramount.
USA population interest are quite simple- cheap oil + jobs /economy growth + stability + strong dollar to have cheap holiday around the world.

It's Western deep state because Western nations + Japan and even south korea have achieved stability in their political systems and are comfortable with each other's strategic priorities ( none of them wants to grab more territory.+ Influence around the world can be brought with money + weapons supply) .

The main game plan is to keep Oil prices high. If Oil comes down to its natural price of US$ 10 dollar per barrel, the current world order will end.
Where did you find that figure. Onshore oil fields break even at some where between 40-50$ per barrel. Deep offshore oil breaks even at 60-75$ per barrel which is now declining. And shale oil breaks even at 45$ in USA .

It is Russia and Saudi which want to keep oil prices high nobody else wants that.
 

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USA population interest are quite simple- cheap oil + jobs /economy growth + stability + strong dollar to have cheap holiday around the world.

It's Western deep state because Western nations + Japan and even south korea have achieved stability in their political systems and are comfortable with each other's strategic priorities ( none of them wants to grab more territory.+ Influence around the world can be brought with money + weapons supply) .



Where did you find that figure. Onshore oil fields break even at some where between 40-50$ per barrel. Deep offshore oil breaks even at 60-75$ per barrel which is now declining. And shale oil breaks even at 45$ in USA .

It is Russia and Saudi which want to keep oil prices high nobody else wants that.
The US Shale Oil industry likes high oil prices. They might not have so much influence on the US Deep State as of yet, but it could change.

However, the US might still be interested in importing oil. As Rex Tillerson said, not as a policy statement, but as his role in Exxon-Mobil, that energy independence was never his goal - energy security was.
 

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US Deep State is not anti-Muslims. The US is pro-Sunni and anti-Shia. I also strongly believe the US Deep State, Israel, and Saudi Arabia are in bed with all the strifes going on around the world. The US Deep State has a pattern. They create chaos, in which they succeed. Then they try to control that chaos, in which they fail, without exception.
It is not possible for any intelligent us officials to not notice the danger Saudi / wahabi ideology presents. Thousands of Americans have died and will die because of Sunni fundamentalist.

Perhaps we give too much credit to is deep state . I think the USA tolerated Saudis so that it came somehow prevent middle East from going kaput and stabilize oil supply for usa Europe and Japan . Mind you it's only recently that USA is becoming self sufficient in oil. In this game USA forged an uneasy alliance between Israel and Saudis .

USA support for Israeli military supremacy in the reason was kind of a guarantee of order in middle East. Iran too was part of the plan but pesky Communists got in the way so USA had to support the shah of Iran and then happened the Islamic revolution and Iran became the pariah.

But now for the very first time usa is no longer dependent on ME oil. So the game is changing. Now usa can more freely arm twist the Saudis and Iran for other economic gains. An open battle royal in WWE style in middle East would sent china India Europe into tizzy while strengthening USA. Only saving grace is that USA still needs swaze canal and red Sea to be free of turmoil for trade ships to pass.
 

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The US Shale Oil industry likes high oil prices.
I would say shale like mid band of price because USA producer are acting like swing producer supplying oil on short contract to whoever needs it. If prices rise too high the middle East oil again wins as buyers would prefer long term contracts for stability.
 

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It is not possible for any intelligent us officials to not notice the danger Saudi / wahabi ideology presents. Thousands of Americans have died and will die because of Sunni fundamentalist.

Perhaps we give too much credit to is deep state . I think the USA tolerated Saudis so that it came somehow prevent middle East from going kaput and stabilize oil supply for usa Europe and Japan . Mind you it's only recently that USA is becoming self sufficient in oil. In this game USA forged an uneasy alliance between Israel and Saudis .

USA support for Israeli military supremacy in the reason was kind of a guarantee of order in middle East. Iran too was part of the plan but pesky Communists got in the way so USA had to support the shah of Iran and then happened the Islamic revolution and Iran became the pariah.

But now for the very first time usa is no longer dependent on ME oil. So the game is changing. Now usa can more freely arm twist the Saudis and Iran for other economic gains. An open battle royal in WWE style in middle East would sent china India Europe into tizzy while strengthening USA. Only saving grace is that USA still needs swaze canal and red Sea to be free of turmoil for trade ships to pass.
We are all speculating, so you should keep that in mind when reading my response, but keep arguing though. I am interested in seeing the different perspectives and the rationale behind it.

I totally agree with you that it is impossible for the US intelligence to not notice the danger of Wahhabism.

Coming to your post, the US needed the Vietnam War, but they didn't have money for it. So, they took the Dollar off the gold standard and convinced the Saudis to sell their oil only for the Dollar. That is how the ptro-Dollar was born.

As a side note:

You would agree that anything that is essential is in high demand. Also, anything that is precious is expensive. So, the US Dollar when backed by a fixed amount of gold had a high value, and when the Petro-Dollar came into being, despite not being backed by gold any more, it was still in high demand, because one had to get hold of US Dollars to buy oil. So, the US used the Saudis to artificially maintain the value off the US Dollar when actually it was not worth as much. Like water finds its own level, the decline of the Dollar could not be prevented.

Now, coming to the Vietnam War, the US simply continued to print the US Dollar and used that to finance the Vietnam War.

As a side note:

The US does not print the Dollars, per se. It is printed by the Federal Reserve Bank, a private banking institution.

Yes, it is true that the US is no longer dependent on Saudi oil, but they still need to keep the demand for the US Dollar high by trying to preserve the Petro-Dollar deal with the Saudis. This may hurt the domestic Shale Oil industry, but if the US allowed the oil prices to collapse, the US Dollar would, to borrow a phrase used by Trump, "go down the tubes."
 

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Well lebanon is allready divided country (with type of constitution have) what point of attacking them.

IRAN may be due to ISREAL

I was thing why this people dont have any paln regarding EAST Asia /china/north korea
Ahmm, they are now eyeing for China and N.Korea because let's be honest, Japan, S.Korea are lapdogs after all.
 

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It is not possible for any intelligent us officials to not notice the danger Saudi / wahabi ideology presents. Thousands of Americans have died and will die because of Sunni fundamentalist.
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Aren't you assuming here that the majority of US officials care for the Americans?

As long as american interests are served the "thousands of Americans" who have "died" will be considered by US officials as "collateral damage"

Besides you know what they say, "A thief is only guilty if he gets caught!!"
 

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THE SECRET SHADOW GOVERNMENT: A STRUCTURAL ANALYSIS

By Richard Boylan Ph.D.

The secret "shadow" government is the large organisational network which operates alongside the officially elected and appointed government of the United States of America. Just as with the official government, the secret government has functional branches. Just as with the official government, the Shadow Government has functional branches. However, unlike the official government, the purpose of the non-executive branches of the Shadow Government is simply to distribute various functions, but not to achieve a system of checks and balances, as was supposed to happen constitutionally between the executive, legislative and judicial branches of the U.S. Government.

That is because the Shadow Government is a creature of a powerful elite, who need not fear being dominated by an instrument of their own creation. In the Shadow Government five branches may be identified. These branches are: the Executive Branch, the Intelligence Branch, the War Department, the Weapons Industry Branch, and the Financial Department. The reporting lines of the Intelligence Branch and the War Department to the Executive Branch are straightforward and obvious.

Intelligence exists to provide the Executive Branch with sufficient necessary information to make adequately informed policy decisions. The War Department exists to provide coercive force to carry out Executive policy decisions which could meet with public resistance. The Special Operations units within the Intelligence Branch and War Department exist to carry out policy directives requiring covert action and official deniability.

The Weapons Industry Branch reports to the Executive Branch most often indirectly, through the War Department and/or the Intelligence Branch (for Black Budget weapons systems). The Financial Department theoretically reports to the Executive Branch for fiscal policy implementation, but de facto also reports directly to the international power brokers who have created the Shadow Government. The Financial Department serves at times directly as their instrument of fiscal policy implementation.

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Collecting comprehensive institutional and personal information

By establishing national and international policy independently of the established Government

By developing high-tech arms and equipment, and, with these, establishing small, specialized, highly mobile, elite military units to effect these covert policies, when need arises, without having to rely on the official (and "unreliable") Armed Services, (whose subservience to the Shadow Government is reasonably suspect)

By developing an armed capability to repel any threat to the status quo, (including the uncertain ontological, social, and economic impacts of any revelation of the reality of UFO and extraterrestrial presence) through the development of a Star Wars/BMDO ground and space-based surveillance and SDI weapons network

By denying information compromising to the Shadow Government from all those outside "need-to-know" policy-making levels

By exercising control on the money supply, availability of credit, and the worth of money, through policy decisions made outside of the official Government EXECUTIVE BRANCH Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) includes George Bush, Bill Clinton, all modern CIA Directors, most modern Joint Chiefs of Staff, most modern Cabinet and top Executive Branch appointed officeholders, etc. Tri lateral Commission David Rockefeller, Henry Kissinger, John D. Rockefeller, Alan Greenspan, Zbignew Brzezinski, Anthony Lake, John Glenn, David Packard, David Gergen, Diane Feinstein, Jimmy Carter, Adm. William Crowe, etc. The Bilderberg Group Prince Hans-Adam of Liechtenstein, Prince Bernhard of Netherlands, Bill Clinton, Lloyd Bentsen, etc. National Security Council (NCS), the military and intelligence policy-making and control group for national and international security, which reports directly to the President, its secret 5412 Committee (which directs black [covert] operations), and its PI-40 Subcommittee (aka MJ-12: which exercises policy direction and control of the UFO Cover-Up). Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS)'s Special Operations compartment, the operations directorate which implements the orders of the NSC's 5412 Committee, utilizing the U.S. Special Forces Command.

National Program Office (NPO), which operates the Continuity of Government Project (COG), an ongoing secret project to maintain command, control, communication and intelligence executive centers during an extreme National Emergency by operating clandestine, secure, underground cities staffed by surrogates for above ground national leaders. Federal Emergency Management Agency FEMA's black projects compartment, which operates federal preventive-detention camps [often located on military bases or Federal Bureau of Land Management lands], secure underground shelters for the elite during cataclysms, etc.

INTELLIGENCE BRANCH National Security Agency (NSA), monitors and screens all telephone, telegraph, computer modem, radio, television, cellular, microwave, and satellite communications, and electromagnetic fields "of interest" around the world, and orchestrates information-control and cover-up activities related to UFO secrecy and surveillance of extra-terrestrial operations, Fort Meade, MD. National Reconnaissance Office (NRO), controls and collects information from global spy satellites, monitors UFO traffic entering and leaving Earth's atmosphere, coordinates firing of energy beam weapons from orbiting Star Wars satellites at selected human ground and airborne targets and selectively at extra-terrestrial craft, Pentagon basement and Dulles Airport area, VA. National Reconnaissance Organization (NRO) (aka MJ-TF), the military/intelligence operations arm of the PI-40 Subcommittee, conducts surveillance, interdiction, capture and confiscation of UFOs and their extra-terrestrial occupants for intelligence and "International Security" purposes; surveilles and "interacts" with close encounter experiencers, including occasional physically and sexually assaultive mind control kidnappings disguised as "Alien abductions" for psychological warfare and dis-informational purposes, headquarters unknown, probably compartmented and dispersed among various elite Delta Force Special Operations units, such as the USAF Blue Light at Hurlburt Field, Mary Esther, FL and Beale Air Force Base, Marysville, CA.

Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), commands, often controls, and sometimes coordinates, the gathering of secret overseas information gathered by spies (HUMINT), electronic surveillance (SIGINT), and other means; carries out covert unconstitutional paramilitary counterinsurgency operations and preemptive political pacification projects in violation of international law, as well as counter-intelligence sting operations against foreign agents; engages in domestic surveillance, and manipulation of the U.S. political process, "in the National interest" in direct violation of its congressional charter; operates proprietary "false front" companies for profit; conducts a major share of international trans-shipment of illegal drugs, using National Security cover and immunity; and cooperates with NSA's UFO cover-up operations, Langley, VA, and worldwide branches. Federal Bureau of Investigation, Counter Intelligence Division The branch which investigates, surveilles and neutralizes foreign Intelligence agents operating within the U.S., and cooperates with the National Reconnaissance Organization in the surveillance of those involved in close encounters with UFOs and extra-terrestrials.

Department of Energy Intelligence (DOE-INTEL), which conducts internal security checks and external security threat countermeasures, often through its contract civilian instrumentality, the Wackenhut Corporation. NSA's Central Security Service and CIA's Special Security Office Which respectively spy on the spies, and conduct special operations which cannot be entrusted to line intelligence officers, Ft. Meade, MD and Langley, VA. U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command (INSCOM) whose assignments include psychological and psychotronic warfare (PSYOPS), para-psychological intelligence (PSYINT), and electromagnetic intelligence (ELMINT), Ft. Meade, MD. U.S. Navy Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI), which gathers intelligence affecting naval operations, and has a compartmented unit involved in UFO and USO [Unidentified Submerged Objects] information gathering. U.S. Air Force Office of Special Investigations (AFOSI), which gathers intelligence affecting aerospace operations, and has a compartmented unit involved in investigating UFO sightings, extra-terrestrial contact reports, as well as IAC [Identified Alien Craft] surveillance, and coordination with NRO interdiction operations, Bolling Air Force Base, MD.

Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), which coordinates the intelligence data gathered from the various Armed Services intelligence branches (Army, Navy, Marines, Air Force, Coast Guard and Special Forces), and provides counter-threat measures, (which include providing security at ultra-classified installations by the deployment of U.S. "Thought Police", who conduct surveillance, by remote viewing and other para-psychological measures, against penetrations and scanning by foreign or civilian remote viewers [clairvoyants/out-of-body seers], Pentagon, VA, Fort Meade, MD, and the entire astral plane. NASA Intelligence Which gathers intelligence data relating to space flights, sabotage threats, astronaut and reconnaissance satellite encounters with UFOs and ETs, and coordinates the transfer of alien technology to U.S. and allies' aerospace operations. Air Force Special Security Service Which is an NSA/USAF joint intelligence operations unit dealing with possible threats to aerospace operations from foreign powers, terrestrial or otherwise.

Defense Industry Security Command (DISCO), which conducts intelligence operations within and on behalf of the civilian defense contractor corporations engaged in classified research, development, and production. Defense Investigative Service (DIS), which conducts investigations into people and situations deemed a possible threat to any operation of the Department of Defense.

Naval Investigative Service (NIS), which conducts investigations against threats to Naval operations. Air Force Electronic Security Command Which conducts surveillance and interdiction of threats to the security of Air Force electronic transmissions and telemetry, and to the integrity of electronic countermeasure (ECM) warfare equipment.

Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) Intelligence Which conducts surveillance and interdiction of drug smuggling operations, unless exempted under "National Security" waivers. Federal Police Agency Intelligence Which coordinates intelligence relating to threats against federal property and personnel. Defense Electronic Security Command Which coordinates intelligence surveillance and countermeasures against threats to the integrity of military electronic equipment and electronic battlefield operations), Fort Worth, TX. Project Deep Water The ongoing effects of the compromised personnel, sources and methods resulting from the secret importation of Hitler's own Nazi Intelligence chief, Gen. Reinhard Gehlen, to redesign the US's Intelligence apparatus. Project Paperclip The ongoing results of the secret importation of Nazi weapons and aerospace/UFO scientists into U.S. secret military research and development bases.

CIA's Directorate for Science and Technology Which gathers information with promise for scientific and technological developments which present a superiority advantage for, or a threat against, the National Security, [also contains the "Weird Desk", which centrally processes intelligence about UFOs and ETs and their interaction with Earth], current Deputy Director of Central Intelligence for Science and Technology is Ron Pandolfi. Strategic Defense Initiative Office (SDIO) Ballistic Missile Defense Org. (BMDO) Which coordinates research, development and deployment of Star Wars electromagnetic pulse, killer laser, particle beam, plasmoid, and other advanced technology aerospace weapons. Department of Energy (DOE) which, besides its cover story of researching cleaner-burning coal and gasoline and more solar power, is principally involved in research and development of: more specialized nuclear weapons; compact, self-sustaining, fusion powered, particle and wave weapons, including electromagnetic pulse, gravitational/anti-gravitational, laser, particle beam and plasmoid applied weapons research; high energy invisibility "cloaking" technology, etc. Lawrence Livermore National Laboratories Sandia National Laboratories-West (SNL-W) Which are involved in nuclear warhead "refinements", development of new transuranic elements for weapons and energy applications, development of anti-matter weapons (the Teller Bomb: 10,000 times the force of a hydrogen bomb), laser/maser technology applications, and, reportedly, successful teleportation experiments, among other projects, at this Russian nicknamed "City of Death"), Livermore, CA. Idaho National Engineering Laboratories (INEL), which houses numerous underground facilities in an immense desert installations complex larger than Rhode Island, has security provided by its own secret Navy Base, is involved in nuclear, high energy electromagnetic, and other research, and includes Argonne National Laboratory, West), Arco, ID Sandia National Laboratories (SNL) Phillips Air Force Laboratory Which are sequestered on Kirtland Air Force Base/Sandia Military Reservation, and conduct the translation of theoretical and experimental nuclear and Star Wars weapons research done at Los Alamos and Lawrence Livermore National Laboratories into practical, working weapons), Albuquerque, NM. Tonopah Test Range SNL's DOE weapons testing facility for operationally testing Star Wars weapons in realistic target situations, and is adjacent to classified stealth and cloaked aerospace craft and United States-UFO bases at the Groom Lake [USAF/DOE/CIA] Base [Area 51] and Papoose Lake Base [S-4]), Nevada Test Site/Nellis AFB Range, Tonopah, NV. Haystack (Buttes) USAF Laboratory, Edwards AFB, CA A 30 levels deep, extreme security facility reportedly engaged in alien technology retro-engineering.

Los Alamos National Laboratories The premiere research lab for nuclear, subatomic particle, high magnetic field, exometallurgical, exobiological and other exotic technologies research, Los Alamos County, NM. Area 51/Groom Lake (USAF/DOE/CIA) Base) and S-4 (Papoose Lake Base) Ultra-secure "non-existent" deployment bases where extremely classified aerospace vehicles are tested and operationally flown, including the Aurora hypersonic spyplane, the Black Manta [TR-3A] stealth fighter follow-on to the F-117A, the Pumpkinseed hyper-speed unmanned aerospace reconnaissance vehicle, and several variants of anti-gravitational craft (U.S.-UFOs). U.S. Special Operations Command Hurlburt Field, Mary Esther, Fl, along with its Western U.S. Headquarters, Special Operations Command, Beale AFB, Marysville, CA, coordinating: U.S. Army Delta Force (SFOD-D) U.S. Navy SEALs (Black Berets), Coronado, CA. USAF Blue Light (Red Berets) Strike Force Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA), which coordinates the application of latest scientific findings to the development of new generations of weapons.

The Jason Group Elite weapons application scientists, developing cutting-edge science weapons for DARPA, and operating under the cover of the Mitre Corporation. Aquarius Group UFO technology application scientists, reportedly working under the guidance of the Dolphin Society, an elite group of scientists privy to extremely classified science and technology findings. Defense Science Board Which serves as the Defense Department's intermediary between weapons needs and the physical sciences. Defense Nuclear Agency Currently concentrating on fusion powered, high energy particle beam, X-ray laser, and EM forcefield weapons development and deployment. U.S. Space Command Space War Headquarters for operating "the next war, which will be fought and won in space", Falcon AFB, CO. North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD), operating the nuclear survivable space surveillance and war command center deep inside Cheyenne Mountain, Colorado Springs, CO. Air Force Office of Space Systems Which coordinates the development of future technology for operating and fighting in space. National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA), which operates covert space defense, ET research, and space weapons compartments, in addition to manned Shuttle and unmanned scientific satellite launches.

NASA's Ames Research Center Which conducts the SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) Project, Exobiology (alien life forms) Division, and "Human Factors" (PSY-Warfare) Division), Sunnyvale, CA. Project Cold Empire SDI weapons research - Classified Project Snowbird Pseudo-UFO's used as misinformation. Project Aquarius UFO research - Classified Project MILSTAR Development and deployment of WW III [space war] command, control, communication and intelligence satellites.

Project Tacit Rainbow Stealth drones/pseudo-UFO's. Project Timberwind Nuclear powered space vehicles. Project Code EVA Space walk based technology. Project Cobra Mist SDI energy -beam (plasmoid?) weapon research. Project Cold Witness SDI weapons - Classified WEAPONS INDUSTRY BRANCH Stanford Research Institute, Inc. An Intelligence contractor involved in psychotronic, para-psychological and PSY-WAR research. AT&T Sandia Labs, Bell Labs, etc. Star Wars weapons research and NSA telephone/satellite communications interception facilitation. RAND Corporation CIA-front involved in Intelligence projects, weapons development, and underground bases development. Edgerton, Germhausen & Greer Corporation NSA/DOE contractor involved in Star Wars weapons development, fusion applications, and security for Area 51 and nuclear installations, etc. Wackenhut Corporation (NSA/CIA/DOE cut-out contractor) involved in contract security operations for Top Secret Ultra and Black Budget surface and underground military reservations, such as Area S-4 (U.S. UFO base), NV and Sandia National Labs, (Star Wars weapons base), NM), and, reportedly, "dirty jobs" for CIA and Defense Intelligence agencies. Bechtel Corporation CIA's main contractor for covert projects and experimental underground bases.

United Nuclear Corporation Military nuclear applications. Walsh Construction Company Seems to undertake CIA projects contracts. Aerojet (Genstar Corp.) Makes DSP-1 Star Wars battle satellites for the NRO. Reynolds Electronics Engineering Seems to undertake CIA and DoD projects. Lear Aircraft Company Black budget technology. Northrop Corporation Makes U.S. anti-gravity craft, back-engineered from alien technology, near Lancaster, CA. Hughes Aircraft Classified projects compartment. Lockheed-Martin Corporation Black Budget aerospace projects. McDonnell-Douglas Corporation Black Budget aerospace projects. BDM Corporation CIA contractor, involved in UFO back-engineering and psychotronic projects, etc.

General Electric Corporation Electronic warfare and weapons systems. PSI-TECH Corporation Involved in military/Intelligence applications of research into psychotronics, parapsychology, remote viewing, and contacting extra-terrestrial consciousness. Science Applications International Corp. (SAIC) - "black projects" contractor, reportedly including psychic warfare.

FINANCIAL DEPARTMENT Federal Reserve System Cartel of private banks overseen by elite super-wealthy financiers, such as the Rockefellers, Mellons, DuPonts, Rothschilds, etc., which dictates to the Government the flow of money, worth of money, and the interests rates. CIA self-financing The operation and/or control of much of the international drug trade in heroin, cocaine and marijuana, as well as "front" business enterprises, as a source of cash for off-the-books covert operations, and the purchase of exotic munitions and strategic bribe funds. Department of Justice self-financing the use of confiscated money and valuables from "targets of investigation" to finance "special projects".

Special Forces self-financing. The self-use of confiscated money from covert military operations to fund other clandestine operations.

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Ahmm, they are now eyeing for China and N.Korea because let's be honest, Japan, S.Korea are lapdogs after all.

Nahh they have always preferred weaker opponents .

looks at past they have taken countries where soviet could not involved physically( or soviet was not neighboring country)

On other hand china has really concern that north korea remain as country and doesn't get collapsed/lost/merge to south korea in either war .so north korea is red line for china and china would never allow USA to cross it .neither USA has guts to taken on north korea
 

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Aren't you assuming here that the majority of US officials care for the Americans?

As long as american interests are served the "thousands of Americans" who have "died" will be considered by US officials as "collateral damage"

Besides you know what they say, "A thief is only guilty if he gets caught!!"
USA continued to prosper despite everything that is happening since 1900s .

Either that is just sheer co-incidence or there is method in the madness.

People do care about their nation and community and official are people only.

Those young Americans who die in Iraq , afghanistan they could never have joined army unlike India there is no dearth of jobs in USA . Yet they chose US army and died in dirt of afghanistan while we Indian line up to get the honor of American citizenship.

Civil servants in USA are well paid , they can afford cars , houses and foreign vacations all on their legal incomes!
There children can compete in an open market for jobs with desent education.
In those circumstances majority of people would chose to do their job with honesty and peace of mind. I certainly would.
 

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