Understanding white supremacy/nationalism

[Project Dharma]

I think of it as very natural opposition to maintain the status quo in political affairs from white. With immigration & changing demography, you import both good and bad of immigration population & its belief system. Slowly but surely their political say will be eroded and its unnatural for any community to simply give away that advantage without resistance.

Sure but white nationalists are not happy with the status quo either. Their goal is to remove 40% of the population in this country so they can have it for themselves.

 

[airtel]

Sure but white nationalists are not happy with the status quo either. Their goal is to remove 40% of the population in this country so they can have it for themselves.

Is there any scope of 2 state solution ?

 

[Peter]

They are not giving their powers away. On the contrary, liberals cement their power by pandering to the masses and giving them free stuff. In exchange they exert control and get votes. Hispanics are the fastest growing demographic and will overtake whites sometime in the near future. When that happens, Democrats are virtually guaranteed to win. The Republicans are being idiots and sacrificing the big picture for short term gains. Actually they counted on being able to pass immigration reform to bring in highly educated, skilled immigrants in favor of hispanics but the way the American Congress is setup they won't get that passed.

Anyway, TLDR the hispanic community is one of the most powerful because they have the numbers. Which other community would be able to get the President to give them temporary work and residence permits after being here illegally?

OT but then this thread was bound to go OT.

DNC or the liberal elites put up a fake countenance of love and compassion for Latinos,blacks yet they are the greatest exploiters of black people,both currently and historically. All the Jim Crow laws were passed down by the DNC racists before Roosevelt`s New Deal. When a Sikh man in 1910s wanted to marry the daughter of his white tenant the racists who voted the Democrats forced him to renounce that idea.

Even after the New Deal when DNC became liberal and RP became Conservative the liberal elite still mistreat poor blacks.
The Clinton foundation in Haiti used up the funds to promote illegal activities there.The Israelis or Jews(IDF) engaged in organ harvesting of Haitian children in the name of saving them.


Infact the DNC is like CPM party of Bengal. Jyoti Basu,the great Sarbahara leader of West Bengal sent his own son,Chandan Basu to western capitalist US for education but removed English from WB state schools. Talk about hypocrisy.

 

[Vijyes]

USA is rich simply because it has too much land for small Population and that land is filled with resources. The USA culture of mercantilism also helped. Brazil or Russia were the two other competitors which failed due yo culture. China, on the other hand is rising above due yo its superior work ethics and ruthlessness.

White nationalism is taking place as people are extremely frustrated by the opaque nature of the politicians. They are not given identity of their own in the name of secularism, deprived of joys due to 'inequalities' and that too financed by public money. The useless CEOs who are responsible for companies crashing are not asked to pay up while poor people are fired from jobs. There is no reason for CEOs to take multi million dollars salary if they are not even doing their jobs well just yo put up some dress.

White nationalists are not evil bit they don't have any other identity of their own and feel depressed and deprived and no one answers and keeps everything a secret.

Vivekananda had said that America will endorse spiritualism in this century. And that is what will happen

 

[Vijyes]

Vivekananda prophecy that India will rise in 21st century and USA will become spiritual (dharmika) will come true. This white nationalism, cheap hypocrisy of muslim sponsored liberals will eventually cause such an anger that people will rebel and they will finally find refuge in dharma

 

[Project Dharma]

What percentage of America is a white nationalist?

 

[Project Dharma]

Quantifying hate

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2017/year-hate-and-extremism


The number of hate groups operating in the country in 2016 remained at near-historic highs, rising from 892 in 2015 to 917 last year, according to the latest count by the SPLC. That’s only about 100 fewer organizations than the 1,018 tallied in 2011, which was the all-time high in some 30 years of SPLC counts.

And the numbers undoubtedly understate the real level of organized hatred in America. In recent years, growing numbers of right-wing extremists operate mainly in cyberspace until, in some cases, they take action in the real world. Dylann Roof, who was convicted late last year of the racist murder of nine black churchgoers, is an example of that — he had no real-world contact with hate groups before deciding, based on propaganda he read on the Internet, that it was time to start a race war.

By far the most dramatic change was the enormous leap in anti-Muslim hate groups, from 34 in 2015 to 101 last year — a 197% increase. But that explosion was not unexpected. Anti-Muslim hate has been expanding rapidly for more than two years now, driven by radical Islamist attacks including the June mass murder of 49 people at an Orlando, Fla., gay nightclub, the unrelenting propaganda of a growing circle of well-paid ideologues, and the incendiary rhetoric of Trump — his threats to ban Muslim immigration, mandate a registry of Muslims in America, and more.

The Muslim-bashing had consequences. Last October, three members of a militia-like group called the Crusaders were arrested and charged with plotting to blow up an apartment complex in Kansas where 120 Somali Muslim immigrants live. The attack was reportedly set for Nov. 9, the day after Election Day.

The number of neo-Confederate groups — organizations like the League of the South, which seeks a second Southern secession — rose by 23%, from 35 to 43 groups. But the number of Klan chapters fell 32%, from 190 groups in 2015 to 130 in 2016. Because the Klan groups’ numbers had expanded rapidly earlier, from 72 in 2014 to 190 in 2015, some constriction had been expected. In addition, much of that decrease was accounted for by the disappearance of the Militant Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, once the fourth largest Klan group in America, and the sharp reduction in the number of chapters in the United White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, which was the largest Klan group in 2015, and in the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan.

While the overall level of hate groups remained fairly steady, the period saw a noticeable drop in real-world extremist activities like rallies and violence — outside of the wave of celebratory hate incidents that came mainly from Trump supporters in the election’s immediate aftermath — even as online activity increased. There hardly seemed a reason to organize their own rallies when extremists could attend a Trump event filled with just as much anti-establishment vitriol as any extremist rally.

 

[Project Dharma]

http://rightrealist.com/

Q: What is the alt-right?
In the most literal and broad sense, the alt-right is an alternative to the existing conservative right, which we view to be weak, ineffectual, and debased by progressive and egalitarian principles.

More specifically, "alt-right" is an umbrella term used to unite all those who support some form of ethnonationalism.

While the term itself began as an American phenomenon, the alt-right movement has significant overlap with the European Identitarian movement, and has many European adherents and supporters.

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Race is a legitimate biological category, races have differences with real-world implications, and race is the foundation for identity.

We believe in Gender Realism - We understand that gender and sex do not vary independently, and that the genders have significant biological and psychological differences. We favor traditional gender roles and the family unit as the basis for society.

We believe in Social and Political Hierarchy - What Nature has made unequal, no man or institution can make equal. The fundamental inequality of Man is both self-evident and scientifically verifiable. We generally oppose egalitarian philosophies or policies.

We believe that Demography is Destiny - In order to preserve a nation or culture you must preserve the type of Man that created it. The notion that a State could replace one ethnic group with another and achieve identical outcomes strikes us as absurd. The more the US looks like Brazil, the more the US will function like Brazil.

We believe that Diversity is a weakness, not a strength - Multiculturalism within a nations borders destroys social cohesion, decreases social involvement, and increases crime and antisocial behavior generally. An ethnically, culturally, and linguistically homogeneous nation will tend to yield the best outcomes.

We believe that National homogeneity preserves international diversity - A fully globalized and integrated world will destroy true genetic and cultural diversity. The idea of a fully mixed, "beige" world appears to us more as a nightmare than a utopia. Only through separation can we remain unique peoples with unique identities.

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National Policy Institute and AltRight.com, Daniel Friberg of Arktos and AltRight.com, Jared Taylor of the New Century Foundation and American Renaissance, Kevin MacDonald of the Occidental Observer, Nathan Damigo of Identity Evropa, Mike Enoch and SeventhSon of TheRightStuff (Sven not so much...), Andrew Anglin of the DailyStormer, Henrik Palmgren and Lana Lokteff of RedIceTV, Greg Johnson of Counter-Currents Publishing, Peter Brimelow of VDare, Millennial Woes on YouTube, and so on.

This is certainly not an exhaustive list, and many names will necessarily be left out.

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Classical Marxism was largely focused on economics, with the primary Marxist dichotomy defined as a class struggle between the economic proletariat and bourgeoisie. Over time, Marxist theorists began to recognize that a purely economic basis for social action was insufficient, in part due to the persisting public view even among the proletariat that capitalism was a successful and desirable system.

In response, the Marxist class struggle was generalized out of economics and into a broader dichotomy between "oppressor" and "oppressed." This allowed Marxist theory and social action to be applied to all aspects of social and cultural life, not simply economic. For example, the differences in traditional gender roles could be described not as harmonious cooperation between the sexes, but as a patriarchal imposition from the oppressive male to the oppressed female, forming the basis for modern Feminism.

Thus, "Cultural Marxism" is an umbrella term used to describe all those schools of thought which critique Western civilization and Western values through an oppressor/oppressed dichotomy. Some trace the formation of Cultural Marxism to the Frankfurt School and the development of Critical Theory. Academic fields such as gender studies and ethnic studies, political movements such as third-wave feminism and black lives matter, as well as concepts such as "privilege" and "non-binary gender," can all be considered examples of Cultural Marxism.

While it is true that Leftists do not call themselves Cultural Marxists, that does not suggest the label is somehow invalid, or that it is a "conspiracy theory." The Left embraces a term which means precisely the same thing: Intersectionality.

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majority British city, for instance, and is governed by a Muslim mayor, something that would no doubt cause past Britons who had a sense for heritage to roll in their graves.

When an immigrant population is a tiny percentage of an area, they are far more likely to assimilate, to conform to the local culture, language, and laws. But when an immigrant population grows large enough, they cease assimilating. They form a distinct ethnic enclave, essentially supplanting a foreign people and culture within another, splitting the nation in two. This is a recipe for disaster. Division, animosity, even violence are predictable outcomes. When a nation is ethnically, culturally, and linguistically homogeneous, there is greater social cohesion. People feel a stronger connection to other members of the group, and this is manifested in their behavior. There is a greater willingness to sacrifice oneself for the benefit of the group, and less inclination to harm or steal from the members of your own tribe. Homogeneity simply creates a more effective, cooperative, well-functioning society.

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skin deep. The notion you could fundamentally change the demographic make-up of a nation without changing the outcomes of the nation is absurd. Demography is destiny. But there is a deeper flaw in this ideology...

Civic nationalism ignores what a Nation truly is, and boils it down to empty abstractions. It does not view people as they are and ought to be, with a deep sense of identity and heritage, but as a meaningless abstraction called "Man," a featureless blob, a deracinated consumer, an economic or political cog in a machine. A Nation is not an idea, but a People, and thus civic nationalism ignores precisely what makes a nation valuable and worth preserving in the first place.

The source of modern day nihilism is not just the loss of God and religion, but the loss of a collective sense of identity and heritage, of which religion is just one part. In America we often claim that it doesn't matter who you are so long as you believe in our shared values. Not only does this fail in practice, but it turns the reality of the world on its head, because our shared values are a product of who we are as a people. Modern American ideals destroy our collective identity, and are rendering Europeans a minority in the wealthy, safe, and prosperous nation their ancestors built.

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become who you are.

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clear definition for the term. By racism, do you mean racialism, the belief that races exist and are different? Do you mean ethnocentrism, preferring your own kind? Do you mean hatred for other races? The term has become vague to the point of being near meaningless except as an epithet.

We do believe that race is a valid biological category and that races are different. We do believe that preferring ones own race and culture is not only natural and morally acceptable, but also that people have a duty to defend and preserve their own kind. So we believe in both racialism and ethnocentrism.

A small number do embrace the label "racist," as a means to take power away from the word and to force the Left to justify their premises. But since the most common implicit definition for racism is hatred for other races, and since the term is almost universally applied as a pejorative insult, very few will embrace the term to describe their own philosophy.

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Proto-Indo-Europeans, who originated on the Pontic-Caspian steppe during the Neolithic period and migrated throughout Eurasia. The PIE were among the first to domesticate horses and other cattle, to develop agriculture, and to develop the wheel. Nearly all European languages, as well as near-Eastern languages such as Sanskrit, are derived from the PIE language which spread through migration. The word "arya" in Sanskrit means "noble," and is the root for the term Aryan, though the Indo-Aryan/Indo-Iranian people are merely a subset of the larger Indo-European group.

The question "who is white?" will get a wide-range of opinions, not only within the alt-right but among people generally. The common consensus among the alt-right are to avoid specific, technical responses, and to take a more inclusive rather than exclusive definition in order to retain a solid base for the movement. If you look white and identify as white, that is sufficient for the majority of the alt-right.

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Culture of Critique trilogy as the result of conflicting ethnic interests.

There are a wide range of opinions on this matter in the alt-right, with some considering it largely insignificant and others considering it extremely significant.

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96% of African-Americans voted for Barack Obama. Does that mean there was a "black conspiracy" to get Obama elected? Of course not, they were simply voting in what they felt to be their ethnic interests.

In the same way, Jews often have ethnic interests which conflict with the interests of European peoples. Calling this a "conspiracy" is just a way to discredit what is really common sense: that ethnic groups have competing and often contradictory interests.

One of the primary Jewish interests is to permanently weaken or eliminate the threat of "antisemitism," and one means of accomplishing this goal is to reduce the risk of European nationalism by rendering European nations more racially mixed/heterogeneous through immigration and miscegenation. The Jewish anthropologist Franz Boas also made significant strides in the West toward deconstructing the ideas of race or ethnocentrism entirely, thus undermining white collective identity. This ever-increasing process, often referred to by buzzwords such as "diversity" or "multiculturalism," can be described from one perspective as merely fighting against racism, but from our perspective represents the threat of racial destruction, sometimes referred to as "white genocide" or "white displacement."

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conditioned by society to feel a social stigma against white identity itself. The decades long process of cultural and social conditioning has instilled in whites a collective sense of guilt over historical injustices and a mortal fear over the charge of racism. This collective stigmatization has resulted in whites having a near suicidal disregard and indifference toward their own people at a time when racial identity is becoming more prominent and powerful in minority ethnic groups, something which the Left would no doubt characterize as "internalized oppression" were it found in any other group. Modern day non-whites have not experienced the same stigmatization of their identity, and thus have no issue embracing their own natural collective ethnic impulses. Whites have been denied what is being openly celebrated in all other groups.

The net result of rejecting identity politics is that white identity, and only white identity, has no voice in politics. This is the primary cause for the gradual displacement of Europeans in their own countries. Therefore, the problem isn't identity politics itself, but the simple fact that whites have been excluded from participating. Every time you argue that a nation has the right to protect its borders or preserve its demographics, you are arguing in favor of identity politics, and there is nothing wrong with that.

The Leftist will naturally argue that whites need no identity politics to compete with minority interests because whites were and are the dominant ethnic and political force in the West. There are a number of problems with this argument, the most glaring being the fact that whites, who comprise a mere 60% of the current US population (and declining), are far less politically homogeneous than any other ethnic group, due in large part to the social conditioning mentioned above. Only 56% of whites voted for Donald Trump, a small majority contrasted with the 96% of blacks who voted for Barack Obama. In addition, minorities are politically homogeneous even across ethnic boundaries, such that blacks, hispanics, et al. comprise a generalized "non-white" coalition in the Democrat party; a coalition which ironically includes a large subset of white voters. Thus, the number of whites who are either consciously or unconsciously voting in white interests is a paltry minority of the nation, rendering the Leftist argument of a "dominant ethnic group" laughable at best.

The more important argument against this Leftist position is that the dominance of an ethnic group in society ought not render that group politically nor morally impotent. On the contrary, to be the historical majority elevates the importance of that majority's interests in the society and culture above all others. The founding people of the nation ought to have the primary say in the future and direction of the nation, and to argue otherwise is to favor subversion and ethno-cultural destruction over self-determination and traditional continuity.

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Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1965, the bills supporters had to convince the public that the new law would not change the demographics of the United States (something which ultimately turned out to be false). The reason they had to convince people of this was because the "moderate" political desire of the public at that time was the preservation of the largely European demographics of the country. Wanting to preserve a mostly white nation used to be the mainstream, common sense position, while today it is "extreme" and "racist."

What a "moderate" really means is not a person who is "sensible and rational," but a person who meekly conforms to the popular opinions of his day.

 

[Project Dharma]

Proto-Indo-Europeans, who originated on the Pontic-Caspian steppe during the Neolithic period and migrated throughout Eurasia. The PIE were among the first to domesticate horses and other cattle, to develop agriculture, and to develop the wheel. Nearly all European languages, as well as near-Eastern languages such as Sanskrit, are derived from the PIE language which spread through migration. The word "arya" in Sanskrit means "noble," and is the root for the term Aryan, though the Indo-Aryan/Indo-Iranian people are merely a subset of the larger Indo-European group.

What do you think of the above?

Edit: Peter already replied today

Actually or as per Scientific genealogists there were migrations out of Africa or the Out of African migrations.

One branch came to India and they were probably the source of the Dravidians or ASI.

Now another branch went to Anatolia/Ukraine and they were the Aryans. Their main cultural enhancement took place in modern day Iran. Later they migrated to India and formed the ANI and displaced the Harrapan people or ASI. Nearly all Sanskrit/Iranian words have a similar origin.

Indians migrating to Europe/Egpyt/England/America are all part of Out of India theory which nearly all respected scientists/historians disagree with it. Also South Indians like Karunanidhi believe in Lemuria Theory(google it). It is even more absurd as it believes that South Indians started out on an imaginary island continent called Lemuria and conquered the world.(see a ex member MarinerHKs post.)

Personally I am not sure what is true.

Edit: As per gene tests nearly all Indians are mixed. North Indians have about 60% ANI,40% ASI in general and South Indians having 70%ASI and 30%ANI. Obviously there are exceptions.

@Razor @Krusty @Peter

 

[airtel]

Jews and whites are together? You don't know about kalgirie plan do you? And do you know who is responsible for the freedom we have right now? Not gandhi no that pedophile son of bitch never,it was Hitler,Azad hind fauj?

yes I know we Got freedom because of Adolf Hitler ................. i said Jews & white are the owners of all the Big Western Corporations .

 

[Dovah]

Can someone ban this idiot? I really think casteism on an Indian forum should really be the line.

@pmaitra @Kunal Biswas

 

[Project Dharma]

No , I dont know .please elaborate .

It is the bullshit that alt righters cry about white genocide. They claim that there was a plan to make whites mix with negroid populations so their culture could be destroyed and they could be easily controlled. Only a crazy person would take it seriously.

 

[Vijyes]

Yeah IQ has nothing to do with it amirite? Why is that Japan being size of that of MP and Bihar combines have more stakes in world economics than us? MUH People who talk about IQ and shieet should be killed,think of it why the caste system was kept in place by our ancestors because they know once the upper caste mate with a street shitting dalit they will be the same and I have to pay for these street shitting dalits to reproduce now,fuck me up fam.

Dalits are not stupid. Don't speak if you don't understand. The Varna of sudras were for stupid. But the dalits never existed in the first place till islam came. Read chanakya's arthashastra - no dalits. Dalits are children of hindu women raped by muslims and hence expelled from homes by their cowardly family. The useless cowardly hindus practiced sati and other savagery, most of them upper caste - so much for IQ. Caste has nothing to do with IQ. If you have heard of hypergamy, you will understand. More than half of brahmans have IQ below 80. They are dumb as bricks and that is because the brahmans mostly fled from north India and married anyone they got as while being a refugee it is hard to find other brahman woman. Over 1300 years (since bin Qasim invaded Sindh), the caste system has degraded severely.

 

[IndianHawk]

You're asking the wrong question fam. Why is it that India whose population of upper castes is higher than Japan's total population doesn't have enough of a stake in world economics? Or Nobel Prizes with their superior IQ?

Lack of capital. Colonization drained us of capital. Since independence we have been afraid to let foreign capital come in lest it rules us again. Only after 1991 that started too change. And now modi is changing it even faster.

Without capital economic activities stall. Infrastructure can not be built . Thus a vicious cycle of poverty continues. Same goes for research. Noble level research usually needs million of dollars of funding.

We could have created a lot of capital domestically but weak institutions and lack of political stability since 1989 prevented that till 2000 .

Now we are getting back on track on all above aspects.

 

[Project Dharma]

@LurkerBaba please save us, I see you browsing this thread.

 

[LurkerBaba]

@LurkerBaba please save us, I see you browsing this thread.

Idiot has been permabanned

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[Project Dharma]

Next step extrapolate it to get the total number of Americans who are against immigration for "ethnocultural" reasons.

 

[YagamiLight]

I honestly feel most days that we would have been better off uncivilized and living in bliss in the wilderness. Fuck modern life.

Science was marching in asia 5000 years before white Europeans started learning not to eat dog meat to survive and grow their food instead and it will march on 5000 years after white trash ultimately fuck themselves into degenerate . Whites creating modern world is a myth born out of the fact that they destroyed everybody else who would have created it otherwise because they were amoral barbarians

 

[Kay]

White supremacists are the "muscle" for conservatives - just as Islamists are for liberal left. Interestingly, between the liberal left and Islamists, not sure who is screwing whom.

 

[Suryavanshi]

I find it LOL worthy when I see white people in BLM rally where everyone is screaming "kill all the whities". Reminds me of JNU
Well all of this white nationalism doesn't matter since they are gonna be extinct in a century or so. Their only solution is to settle on mars and make it an all white planet.