Uncanny resemblance: Is Balochistan the next Bangladesh?

[spikey360]

Photochor Khan has a serious grouse against the Paki establishment for treating him shabbily. I hope RAW has worked on him and tried to bribe him with money/women/whatever it takes to get info on the Paki nuke program.

If an indigenous Pakistani programme existed, that is. One doesn't call imported samples from China a nuclear programme. In any case, after 65+ years of constant enmity, I doubt if there are still some things which are secret for RAW if it has worked properly. Maybe the launch codes of Pak nukes, but that should be about it.

 

[farhan_9909]

If an indigenous Pakistani programme existed, that is. One doesn't call imported samples from China a nuclear programme. In any case, after 65+ years of constant enmity, I doubt if there are still some things which are secret for RAW if it has worked properly. Maybe the launch codes of Pak nukes, but that should be about it.

i must admit that you watch indian media alot

even USA has admitted that they dnt know where Pakistani nukes are..and your talking of nukes codes

most important
your considering RAW as a intelligence agency

 

[Blackwater]

i must admit that you watch indian media alot

even USA has admitted that they dnt know where Pakistani nukes are..and your talking of nukes codes

most important
your considering RAW as a intelligence agency

pak nukes are under american made locks

 

[Agnostic Muslim]

If an indigenous Pakistani programme existed, that is. One doesn't call imported samples from China a nuclear programme. In any case, after 65+ years of constant enmity, I doubt if there are still some things which are secret for RAW if it has worked properly. Maybe the launch codes of Pak nukes, but that should be about it.

The weapons program is largely indigenous at this point in time - the advanced nuclear warhead designs (in electronic form) obtained from weapons proliferators in Europe were concluded to be a Pakistani design and bore no similarity to Chinese nuclear weapons designs.

 

[Agnostic Muslim]

pak nukes are under american made locks

And you say that based on what?

The US cooperated with Pakistan in terms of providing funding and training on best practices and systems, but the Pakistani PAL's and PRP, although based on US systems and processes, were developed independently.

 

[Blackwater]

]And you say that based on what?[/COLOR]

The US cooperated with Pakistan in terms of providing funding and training on best practices and systems, but the Pakistani PAL's and PRP, although based on US systems and processes, were developed independently.

reports on BBC and CNN

 

[Agnostic Muslim]

reports on BBC and CNN

Which reports and what sources/evidence did they use to support their conclusions?

 

[Blackwater]

Which reports and what sources/evidence did they use to support their conclusions?

Iam talking about BBC and CNN reports when this was hot issue.Go and search archives of BBC and CNN

 

[farhan_9909]

CIA: US does not know location of all Pakistan's nuclear weapons - Telegraph

 

[Agnostic Muslim]

Iam talking about BBC and CNN reports when this was hot issue.Go and search archives of BBC and CNN

Usually someone making a claim provides the sources he/she is basing that claim on, but that's fine, I'll call your bluff:

Security measures

But others are less sure that this scenario is realistic, partly because of the safeguards Pakistan has put in place.

As with most countries, these are kept secret but, because of the growing concern, Pakistan has begun to reveal some of the measures it takes:

-The weapons are kept in parts, with the fissile material and the delivery system (the missile) separate from the rest of the weapon
-The exact location of those facilities is kept secret and they are well guarded by a Strategic Forces Command consisting of thousands of soldiers
-The weapons themselves can only be launched by someone who has access to electronic codes
-These codes are a Pakistani version of Permissive Action Links (PALs), used by the US and other countries.

"Pakistan has developed its own PAL systems which obviously ensures that even if an unauthorised person gets hold of a weapon he cannot activate it unless he also has access to electronic codes," explains retired Brig Gen Naeem Salid.

"So that is one thing, the second one is that usual practice, which is there in all nuclear weapons states, which is the two-man rule. There is a need for authentication at every level and authentication by a second person."

These measures mean fears have focused not so much on a break-in and the unauthorised theft of a bomb but on the insider threat - either coming from a small cell of sympathisers or from a coup led by extremist elements within the military...


... America does not provide direct technological help but it has provided other forms of assistance including help in instituting a personnel reliability programme to vet staff.

BBC NEWS | South Asia | How secure is Pakistan's bomb?

 

[spikey360]

i must admit that you watch indian media alot

even USA has admitted that they dnt know where Pakistani nukes are..and your talking of nukes codes

most important
your considering RAW as a intelligence agency

Why don't you Pakistanis understand that the US knows a lot more about you than you people do yourself? Most of you were clueless that Osama was hiding beside a military cantonment. Then one night, he was killed by the Marines, who just came in without any notification, violated your airspace, literally decimated the whole complex and left before you could react. All you incapable excuse of a nation were capable of doing was protest and burning of US flags, as if that did some some harm! Then again, you have a new proclamation here that Uncle Sam doesn't know the true location of your nukes all the while, they are cooperating with you (read babysitting) your nukes. Is that even possible? Is living in denial an intrinsic quality of a Paki, Paki?

The weapons program is largely indigenous at this point in time - the advanced nuclear warhead designs (in electronic form) obtained from weapons proliferators in Europe were concluded to be a Pakistani design and bore no similarity to Chinese nuclear weapons designs.

What do you mean by largely indigenous at this point?
You call something indigenous when you yourself initiate it. So you agree that Pak programme was actually a borrowed one? If not, then you must agree that it restarted afresh lately, indigenous and all Pakistan's claims of being a nuclear power as old as India is just a big shameful hoax.

 

[Agnostic Muslim]

What do you mean by largely indigenous at this point?
You call something indigenous when you yourself initiate it. So you agree that Pak programme was actually a borrowed one? If not, then you must agree that it restarted afresh lately, indigenous and all Pakistan's claims of being a nuclear power as old as India is just a big shameful hoax.

If you want to argue semantics, then yes, the Pakistani nuclear program was always 'indigenous', though it utilized technology from a host of various sources, as did the Soviet, Chinese and Indian programs.

And I do not remember making any claim about Pakistan being a 'nuclear power as old as India', so the 'big shameful hoax' here is the canard you offered up.

 

[Blackwater]

If you want to argue semantics, then yes, the Pakistani nuclear program was always 'indigenous', though it utilized technology :shocked::shocked:from a host of various sources, as did the Soviet, Chinese and Indian programs.

And I do not remember making any claim about Pakistan being a 'nuclear power as old as India', so the 'big shameful hoax' here is the canard you offered up.

 

[Agnostic Muslim]

@Blackwater

Have you recovered enough from having your earlier bluff called to try and support your claims through rational arguments, or has the shock reduced you to posting nonsensical YouTube videos?

 

[Blackwater]

@Blackwater

Have you recovered enough from having your earlier bluff called to try and support your claims through rational arguments, or has the shock reduced you to posting nonsensical YouTube videos?

enjoy the photochor video

 

[agentperry]

you forgot ameerikaaa ,and nato leardership:cool2::cool2::cool2:

ameerikaa and nato wont mess up here. they are more focused on saving cash at the moment and even for some foreseeable future. indian ocean is not natos lake where they can do anything and everything and afghanistan is far from being won. so its better not to think of such occupation or liberation. its better to have cbm with pakistanis and punjabis to dilute the cause of kashmir. the basis of just given statement- paisa bolta hai