Uighurs at Xinjiang mosque have to face China flag when praying

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  1. Ray

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    Uighurs at Xinjiang mosque have to face China flag when praying

    by Massoud Hayoun

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    Authorities have placed a Chinese flag at the head of a mosque in western China, forcing ethnic Uighurs to bow to it when they worship, Uighur activists said Wednesday.

    The local government in the Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region’s Aksu area placed the flag over the mihrab -- the traditional prayer niche that points the direction to Mecca -- prominent Uighur rights advocate Ilham Tohti told Al Jazeera. He called it an effort to “dilute the religious environment” in the area, where minority Uighurs often complain of ethnic and religious repression.

    Al Jazeera was not able to independently verify the report at time of publication, and Aksu officials did not respond to multiple calls for comment.

    Reports from Uighurs in the area said the placement of the flag has upset residents amid a series of fresh religious restrictions, which analysts say Beijing hopes will integrate Uighurs into Chinese society and pacify the strategically important region. Xinjiang is perennially rocked by clashes between Muslim Uighurs and China’s majority ethnic Han Chinese.

    “They placed the flag at a very sensitive place in the mosque,” Tohti said, explaining that he has seen Chinese flags prominently positioned in mosques in China before -- but never in such a sensitive spot.

    Tohti noted that Muslims pray facing Mecca in Saudi Arabia, but Chinese law and authorities demand unwavering allegiance to Beijing.

    “They are essentially saying the flag is higher than religion,” he said.

    Authorities in Xinjiang have recently imposed new restrictions on religious behavior. These including posting signs across the region barring women from wearing headscarves in public venues.

    Tohti said the religious restrictions -- in a Chinese region bordered by Kyrgzstan, Tajikistan, Afghanistan and Pakistan -- are part of Beijing’s attempts to secure its business inroads in Central Asia, which analysts say is set to become a leading source of China’s natural energy imports.

    “China is opening up its foreign affairs to the West. They hope not to have any problems as they expand their influence, especially not in Xinjiang. They are worried about this danger,” Tohti said.

    China’s efforts to promote calm in a region that is key to its economic endeavors appear to be two-pronged. New religious restrictions compound decades-old bans on minors entering mosques to receive religious instruction and attempt to curb traditional fasting during the Muslim holy month of Ramadan. The government has also engaged in a protracted crackdown on what Beijing calls violent Uighur separatists.

    Radio Free Asia reported Tuesday that local officials said 12 more Uighurs had been killed in a raid in western Xinjiang last month, bringing the total reported dead in crackdowns that month to 34.

    Beijing attributed the ethnic clashes that killed at least 21 in April and another 27 in July -- after similar riots that killed hundreds in 2008 and 2009 -- to what it calls "terrorist" and "separatist" groups. Uighurs say the assailants are upset with social repression and a lack of opportunities to partake in the Han Chinese-dominated local economy.

    “In (his recent visit to) Central Asian states, President Xi [Jinping] was really pointing out a Uighur terrorist threat,” said Sean Roberts, a George Washington University professor specializing on Chinese and Central Asian affairs.

    “In context of U.S. military pull-out of Afghanistan, China is concerned about ruffling feathers of Muslim populations to the West, as they have large plans of expansion of influence into Pakistan and Central Asian Muslim majority countries,” he said.

    But Roberts said it appears that Beijing's current methods are less than effective.

    “Putting myself in the position of Chinese bureaucrats, their strategy is not working, so they are pushing it harder and harder. And their strategy is only exacerbating the problem.”

    Tohti offered his own suggestions for a new strategy.

    “If China really believes Uighurs are part of the country, then meet your responsibility to them. Uighurs are impoverished and have no rights. China needs to improve their living standards,” Tohti said.

    Uighurs at Xinjiang mosque have to face China flag when praying | Al Jazeera America

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    How cute.

    The Chinese have replaced the kibla (direction of Mecca) with the Chinese flag!

    So, the Chinese wish to brainwash the Muslims into thinking that direction of salvation is through the Chinese flag and onto Mecca - both having the same significance!

    Very ingenuous!

    But then, the Chinese, who are a brainwashed lot and believe everything the CCP orders, do not realise that Islam does not take orders from China, but from Allah!

    They still have a powerful religion that keeps their sanity and not turn zombies!

    To put the Chinese flag over the mihrab is another red flag being shown in front of raging bulls.

    More Han shall die!

    Because of the brain denied,. insensitive CCP!
     
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    Where have all the Chinese gone, long time everyone?
     
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    I would like to hear a justification from them as to why party functionaries have access to a house of worship, let alone decorating the place with flags. Do official Chinese news agencies have any comment?
     
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    Chinese also banned fasting during the Islamic holy month of rahmadan.
    If they were able to forcefully enforce that this is nothing.


    Chinese Muslims banned from fasting in Ramadan | AhlulBayt Islamic Mission (AIM).
     
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    kudos to Chinese guts.
     
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    so where are the organization of islamic unity and all the other jihadists ?
     
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    China will NEVER succeed in their plans in Pakistan. Pork loving atheist kafir communist
    and Islam do not mix well, as China attempts to get closer to Pakistan the Jihadis will make
    inroads in to East turkmenistan and from the other side from Afghanistan and Central
    Asian republics that East turkenistan belonged to before being usurped by China.
     
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    Pakistan ISI and the Govt are complicit in encouraging the Islamists fundamentalists.

    Islam is beyond the niceties of international relationship etc.

    The underlining zeal is Dar ul Islam.

    Thus, damn China!

    The Porky Pigs can take a running jump as far as the Pakistani Islamists are concerned!
     
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    :rofl: :rofl:

    we have a news as below too :facepalm:

     
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    I have posted vin great detail as to how the Han Chinese Govt has done everything to destroy religion, culture, customs, traditions, language et al in Xinjiang and Tibet!

    These poor Han joes don't understand resurgent Islam.

    More Han will die!

    Porky pig will not win.

    It will be a long bloody battle and one will have to watch and wait!
     
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    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    It will not be long until Xingjing becomes the Pakistan of China.
     
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    Good move by China. I wish India could do the same, but it will never happen.
     
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    Well, we don't need to mix with Islam in central asia since we are the foreigners in their countries. As long as we respect their religions in their countries, I don't see how they could be bothered where a chinese flag is hanging within China.

    This is the typical indian style wishful thinking: you guys have problems with China, so you think that everyone is sharing with you!
    Unfortunately, there is no gov including Afghanistan claiming any piece of this so called "east turkstan"!
     
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    The disrespect to Muslims at their house of worship is despicable no matter what excuse is given. The Chinese flag in that context is meant to provoke and humiliate. What reaction can the Chinese expect? Clearly the Party has no respect for anything but itself and is compelled to dominate every part of Chinese society. Are there even any Chinese words for the phrase "individual freedom"?
     
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    The disrespect to Muslims in their holy land is despicable no matter what excuse is given. The American bases in that context are meant to provoke, humiliate, and perpetuate the corrupt, impure rule of the House of Saud. What reaction can the Americans expect? Clearly the military-industrial complex has no respect for anything but itself and is compelled to dominate every part of global society. Are there even any American words for the phrase السيادة الوطنية?

    See what I did there? Normative outrage matters little in disputes like this. There is no right or wrong, only authority - which means there is only dead and alive.
     
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    Yes. Your usual distraction and evasion of the particular incident under discussion. You are the master of the smokescreen among the fifty-centers who swarm the internet to defend the Party.
    My "outrage", if any, is trivial. China will need to deal with the anger of its oppressed minorities, and that thought pleases me. Those who insist on the policies to control China's population are sociopaths.
     
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    http://vkb.isvg.org/Wiki/Groups/East_Turkestan_Islamic_Movement
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    Is China’s foreign hand behind Xinjiang terror claim false? - Hindustan Times

     
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    Bowing towards Mecca does not make Muslims more free, wealthy or powerful so neither is bowing towards the Chinese flag going to be any more effective. This is a symbolic but useless act like Saddam having people walk over a US flag or Bush's image. If walking over a flag is going to harm the flag owner, bowing to a flag is going to improve things for the owner of that flag.

    The logic and science here is mind boggling. Psychologically it just shows a stupid, small minded Chinese functionary who is attempting to make the Uighurs feel insulted while he displays his loyalty to the ChiCom politburo like a donkey following a dangling carrot.
     

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