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    U.S. wants to maintain good relations with India, but has uneasy connection with election front-runner Narendra Modi

    WASHINGTON — Indian election results due Friday provide a chance to repair relations with the U.S. that were strained by the arrest of an Indian diplomat in New York in December. But there’s a big catch: Washington’s uneasy relationship with the man expected to become India’s next prime minister.

    Hindu nationalist leader Narendra Modi was denied a U.S. visa in 2005 for alleged complicity in religious riots in 2002 that killed more than 1,000 Muslims. Exit polls show his Bharatiya Janata Party and its allies with a large lead over the ruling Congress party and its allies after voting ended Monday.

    The Obama administration started mending fences in February, when, for the first time in Modi’s decade-long tenure as the top official in Gujarat state, the U.S. ambassador met with him. Officials since have said whoever is elected India’s next leader would be welcome to the U.S., leaving little doubt that if Modi becomes prime minister, he could visit Washington.

    On Monday, President Barack Obama congratulated India on its national election and said the U.S. will work closely with India’s next government.

    “We look forward to working with the leaders chosen by the Indian people to advance this important partnership and to set an ambitious agenda,” State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said.

    But the controversy over Modi’s visa denial could leave some hard feelings.

    The Bharatiya Janata Party says Modi got a clean bill when investigators appointed by India’s Supreme Court in 2010 did not find prosecutable evidence that Modi had wilfully allowed the 2002 communal violence, but rights groups maintain there’s strong evidence linking his administration with the attacks, and he remains a divisive figure. Last year, plans for Modi to address by video a University of Pennsylvania conference on the Indian economy were scrapped following opposition from Indian-American professors, alumni and students.

    Still, Modi has friends in America, including successful Indian-American businessmen with roots in Gujarat, and he’s steered clear of religious politics in the campaign. U.S.-based analysts and congressional aides say Modi has little foreign policy experience, but his pro-business outlook and focus on reviving India’s flagging economy could help the relationship with the U.S.

    “The State Department will have to be very careful in how they manage re-engagement, but in other areas the BJP looks to America as a strong natural partner for defence and economic issues. We saw that the last time the BJP was in power,” said Rick Rossow of the Center for Strategic and International Studies think-tank in Washington.

    Strategic ties deepened under then-Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee. Under his Congress Party successor, the current prime minister, Manmohan Singh, the administration of President George W. Bush forged a landmark U.S.-Indian civil nuclear agreement.

    Obama also emphasized ties with India, the world’s largest democracy. He visited New Delhi in 2010 and declared the U.S.-India relationship would be a “defining partnership of the 21st century.” With about 3 million Indian-Americans in the U.S., people-to-people ties are strong.

    But there’s been disappointment since then. While military co-operation and U.S. defence sales have grown, and two-way trade is now around $100 billion, the economic relationship has been rocky. Washington has been frustrated by India’s failure to open up more to foreign investment and address complaints over intellectual property violations. Liability legislation has prevented U.S. companies from capitalizing on the nuclear deal.

    The U.S. complaints have strained overall ties.

    “Every time the U.S. pressures India on trade, that’s been perceived as the U.S. trying to twist the arm of the Indian government for the benefit of American business,” said Jonah Blank of the RAND Corp. think-tank . At one point, the push to allow companies like Walmart to open retail stores in India threatened to topple the Congress-led coalition.

    But Blank, a former Senate aide to now-Secretary of State John Kerry, said the main reason the relationship has flagged is because neither country made it a top priority. The Obama administration, facing many foreign policy challenges, views India as important, but not urgent. India’s government has been preoccupied with domestic politics.

    Ties tanked in December when Indian Deputy Consul General Devyani Khobragade was arrested and strip-searched in New York City. She was accused of lying on visa forms so she could bring her maid to the U.S. while paying her a pittance. In India, strip-searching a member of the educated elite would be unthinkable. Khobragade returned to India in January, but charges are still pending.

    India retaliated against American diplomats, and the opposition joined in the criticism. In December, Modi cancelled a meeting with visiting U.S. lawmakers, and when he met U.S. Ambassador Nancy Powell, he brought up Khobragade’s “ill-treatment.”

    But Modi also said the BJP wanted to strengthen India’s strategic partnership with the U.S. and build on the foundations laid by Vajpayee, although he’s said little about it during the campaign.

    The successor to Powell, who is resigning, could play an important role in trying to start off well with the new prime minister.

    Obama has yet to nominate a replacement, but India will look for someone close to the White House, said Sanjay Puri, chairman of the U.S.-India Political Action Committee, which has helped organize trips by senior BJP officials to the U.S. He’s also urging an early White House invitation for the next Indian leader.

    “This relationship needs some love right now,” Puri said.

    U.S. wants to maintain good relations with India, but has uneasy connection with election front-runner Narendra Modi | Vancouverdesi.com
     
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    Some common keywords when reading Western articles about Modi :

    Hindu nationalist leader
    BJP nationalist leader
    2002 riots
    divisive
    communal violence

    Read one of them and you have read them all! :)
     
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    US must explain its change in stand clearly to Indian public... Has Mr. Modi have become less complicit to 2002 riots with passage of time ??
     
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    Ok, serious question- How many of you are saying with me that US can go F itself?
     
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    WIth powerful India China Russia US will start shitting daily from now on.

    Narendra modi would have cavity searched racist US diplomat .
     
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    This paragraph says it all.

    Otherwise this thread has already degenerated into the sophomoric venting for which DFI is known.
     
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    US must explain nothing if the riot issue was flogged in US Congress by NRIs.
     
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    It dosent matter now US Congress will be put in its place.I see some butthurt people already.:mad:
     
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    "Butthurt" is a chronic condition on DFI among ignorant Indians with their feelings of inferiority, who could not post more than a one-line response if their lives depended on it. As usual, the original article cited in this thread offers an opportunity for some intelligent discussion. And as usual, the angry children who comprise the majority of people here fail to post anything but filth from their potty-mouths. Show your mamas what you post; they will be so proud of you. :dude:
     
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    These things are expected from the country which is bringing democracy to ukrain and looting them.

    Your opinion dosent matter .Now go back to your mama and in to your cave.
     
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    US has not much of interest in India. India for the last ten years grew economically to be third largest economy (PPP basis), still US and in particular Obama had no time for India. Everything which ManMohan and Bush built on the basis of Indo-US Nuclear deal was squandered away. The tone was set in the First Obama term by that ever smiling Hillary Clinton, who often stabs in the back. She advised Obama on foreign policy on which India had no place. I am glad she is gone, but her legacy continued. There was a huge amount of quibbling on minor issues, which the leaders usually advise caution, but not Obama. He was not doing much for America itself. The economy in bad shape, debt rising, unemployment at 8%, a mess in Iraq, where US did not know what to do, and in Afghanistan, they failed to recognize the real enemy. It in not the Afghans but Pakistan. In this scenario Hillary Clinton was running wild, she created the Libya, Egypt and Syria debacles. She almost succeeded in the first two but not in third. But her policies continued.

    Ignored by US in everything including Afghanistan, India was desperate for attention, but Nay, Obama had no time except occasional that famously uttered words as India being US pivot for anti China grouping.

    Getting the feeling that Obama is no longer paying attention to India, lower rung officials began to pressure India on silly issues of trade, Bangladesh elections, Sri Lanka mistreatment of Tamils etc. Over confident these officials precipitated the Indian diplomats arrest and strip search. They were also overjoyed to fund Get Modi human rights campaign. Tons of NGO money was spent to dig up dirt. But none could be found except buffalo bones.

    US / India relations are in boon docks. It is unlikely that US would do any better in Obama remaining term in the office.

    The Modi Visa row was precipitated by US at the behest of Congress Party and some die hard leftists in US. Ambassdor Nancy Powell played her role.

    There will be no immediate effort on US part to apologize and move forward.

    Now Modi has to wait for new US administration to come into the office in 2016, assuming 2015 is US election year.

    Most likely it is going to be a Republican administration. It is where the first start is to be made.
     
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    And why exactly should they do that? Everyone knows America is naturally an aggressor.
    And India would not act under pressure of anyone right now..


    As far as i'm concerned, Both nations are friendly towards each other and that's a good thing.
    I don't get the Anti-American nature some of you guys show for no reason.
     
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    Modi has said he wants a more friendly foreign investment environment and USA has said
    It is ready to invest if modi is elected. I don't see any animosity between two nations.
    Most of the animosity was created by congress.
     
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    As long as USA supports terrorist state pakistan we can never be friends..reality hurts .
     
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    Oh trust me, no one really supports Pakistan, Not US nor China. Its just a piece of land which gives other countries access to nations around it.
    If Pakistan wages war with any nation, No one would take a stand for it.
     
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    Keep your Jokes to your self and live in your fantasy land.
     
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    If i have to follow your logic, I would rather live in my fantasy land than hating other nations simply because they provide Aid to countries you don't like.
     
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    Aid is different from military aid.

    You can keep sucking your masters now.:thumb:
     
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    Define "real support".

    People dont trust the u.s for very real reasons, that become quite apparent by even casually going though Indo-pak history, and looking at actions, and not being taken by words.
     
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    Modi needs to keep an eye on potential Blackwater mercenaries in India. Remember, they could also hire mercenaries from South Asia. We don't want a Kiev like situation in Delhi.

    Also, keep Delhi Police's control out of that Ford Foundation affiliate AAP.
     

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