U.K. Tibet Pledge Fostered China Deals, People's Daily Says

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U.K. Tibet Pledge Fostered China Deals, People's Daily Says - Bloomberg

A U.K. admission that it mishandled the issue of Tibet paved the way for economic and financial agreements this week, a People's Daily commentary said.
The U.K. also pledged to respect China's sovereignty, reviving relations that had been at a low ebb during the past year, the Communist Party's official newspaper said in a commentary by Zhong Sheng. The name is a homonym in Chinese for "voice of China." The British government said there'd been no change of policy.
China and Britain agreed during a visit by U.K. Chancellor of the Exchequer George Osborne to establish direct trading between the yuan and the British pound, helping London in its race with Frankfurt and Paris to become Europe's hub for trade in the Chinese currency. London financial institutions will be allowed to invest as much as 80 billion yuan ($13 billion) in Chinese domestic securities, Osborne said Oct. 15.
At a briefing after meeting Osborne that day, Vice Chinese Finance Minister Zhu Guangyao said the relationship "has seen a turnaround" thanks to efforts from both sides.
"Without a sound foundation of political relations, economic and trade relations cannot have a solid footing," Zhu said.
U.K. Prime Minister David Cameron acknowledged in May that his 2012 meeting with the Dalai Lama, the Tibetan spiritual leader, had caused tension. China accuses the Nobel Peace Prize winner of waging a campaign for independence, while he says he is seeking autonomy for Tibet.
A spokesman for Cameron said today Britain has not changed its stance on Tibet to seal the deals announced during Osborne's trip, which also include an agreement for Chinese companies to buy stakes in British nuclear power plants.
"Our position on Tibet is long-standing and there's been no change," Jean-Christophe Gray told reporters at a regular briefing in London. "We want strong commercial and diplomatic ties with China, We want to continue to strengthen those, and that's at the heart of the visit to China that you've seen the chancellor making this week."
That's why the Dalai Lama will never win, and will never see Tibet in his lifetime. On one side, you have nukes, trillions of dollars in reserves, gold, and GDP, and billions allocated each year on arm-twisting and leashing Western politicians to the Party's whims and diktat. On the other side, you have a bald-headed pederast and exiles who can't even march 50 miles from their home base without getting detained by the police of their host country to avoid ruffling feathers.

Strength is the only thing that matters in matters relating to Tibet. Everything else fails to deliver.
 

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That's why the Dalai Lama will never win, and will never see Tibet in his lifetime. On one side, you have nukes, trillions of dollars in reserves, gold, and GDP, and billions allocated each year on arm-twisting and leashing Western politicians to the Party's whims and diktat. On the other side, you have a bald-headed pederast and exiles who can't even march 50 miles from their home base without getting detained by the police of their host country to avoid ruffling feathers.

Strength is the only thing that matters in matters relating to Tibet. Everything else fails to deliver.
........echoes of Neville Chamberlain.Hitler also believed that the Third Reich would last forever.In the end oppressors always loose.Thugs Of Beijing will eventually face justiceThe bigger you are the heavier the fall.
 

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U.K. Tibet Pledge Fostered China Deals, People's Daily Says - Bloomberg



That's why the Dalai Lama will never win, and will never see Tibet in his lifetime. On one side, you have nukes, trillions of dollars in reserves, gold, and GDP, and billions allocated each year on arm-twisting and leashing Western politicians to the Party's whims and diktat. On the other side, you have a bald-headed pederast and exiles who can't even march 50 miles from their home base without getting detained by the police of their host country to avoid ruffling feathers.

Strength is the only thing that matters in matters relating to Tibet. Everything else fails to deliver.

Implicit acceptance that the only reason you have Tibet is due to force and have no legal claim? :p
 

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Implicit acceptance that the only reason you have Tibet is due to force and have no legal claim? :p
There is no law without force.

"Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor." - Robert Heinlein

Hence the fact that China's ownership of the Tibetan plateau stems from force does not detract from its legality, in any way, shape, or form.
 

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It is very surprising that the British who speak a lot about honesty, integrity and morality, can stoop so low as to eat their words for cash! and kind!

China's occupation of Tibet is illegal and immoral if one goes through history.

If one goes my China's interpretation of history, then China is the legitimate owner of all lands captured by Chegiz Khan.and Kublai Khan.



The Mongol invasion of China spanned six decades in the 13th century and involved the defeat of the Jin Dynasty, Western Xia, the Dali Kingdom and the Southern Song, which finally fell in 1279. The Mongol Empire under Genghis Khan started the conquest with small-scale raids into Western Xia in 1205 and 1207. By 1279, the Mongol leader Kublai Khan had established the Yuan Dynasty in China and crushed the last Song resistance, which marked the onset of all of China under the Mongol Yuan rule.
 
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I think after this business collaboration between China and UK, the chinese may get overconfident and they might pressure India to extradite Dalai Lama to China in the name of economic development.:tsk:
 

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A spokesman for Cameron said today Britain has not changed its stance on Tibet to seal the deals announced during Osborne's trip, which also include an agreement for Chinese companies to buy stakes in British nuclear power plants.
But it would if it had to for business with China.:)
 

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Britain has not changed its stance?

If so, what is UK's stance on the Dalai Lama?
 

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does those snobs' stance on "Chinese sovereignty" or lama matter even if they hv one? it's become a ritual for mandarins to do those mind numbing talks though nobody gives a damn to their parlance.

nowadays Chinese r pretty pragmatic (so r Brits) knowing whatever "stance" Brits take doesnt change the ground reality. at the end of the day it's realpolitik that dictates where Brits stand. moreover business is business therefore Chinese shall just move ahead with London as offshore RMB hub. getting no longer obsessed with lama undos their "Tibet card ", which turns inconsequential day by day.


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I am glad it is felt that the British are pragmatic.

They were real pragmatic by making the Chinese dope addicts and wrest away Hong Kong, apart from heap on the Chinese whole lot of insulting provisions!

The Chinese finds Abe going to the Shrine 'insulting', but they find wonderful bedfellows even after they made a brutal hash of China!

The Chinese are pragmatic by talking through both ends of their mouth!
 

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I think after this business collaboration between China and UK, the chinese may get overconfident and they might pressure India to extradite Dalai Lama to China in the name of economic development.:tsk:
Actually, extraditing the Dalai Lama is less useful than having the GoI cessate covert and overt assistance to the Tibetan exile movement. Such a move would also be easier for the GoI to sweep under the rug, and would probably be a precondition of any Sino-Indian border talks. Indeed, in advance of Singh's summit with Li Keqiang, both governments are probably negotiating such assistance as we speak.

Freeze the movement's bank accounts, seize their assets, entice their weaker members into wrongdoing, and expose them with a few well-timed scandals, and you can do irreparable damage to the cause of Tibetan separatism without touching a hair on that old pederast's body. China can then savor the Dalai Lama watching his movement crumble from within, and his sweet, sweet tears as he watches his younger members commit suicide by daring violent action against the seamless surveillance, tanks, helicopters, and drones of the People's Armed Police.
 

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indeed Brit r amongst the most pragmatic n insightful thus a good dealer to make trade-offs with.

they'd held India in high regards as a pearl on the crown. however Brit dumped India once it was found to b more a liability than an asset.

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I think after this business collaboration between China and UK, the chinese may get overconfident and they might pressure India to extradite Dalai Lama to China in the name of economic development.:tsk:
India cannot extradite HH Dalai Lama.

If India does so, India would become the biggest fool on Earth.

Britain is a third rate power and is immaterial and so Britain can not even out pressure on Burkina Faso.

It is merely existing as US' Appendage and nothing more!

The Dalai Lama is not interfering in Tibet.

China is unable to break the Tibetans will, require to find scapegoats!

China will fail because today the world has charged from the time when China invaded all with imperialist dreams!

The Tibetan and the Uighurs will give the Chinese a run for their money but not wilt!

The Chinese are well aware of this and they are breaking into cold sweat and blaming all, when they are the scoundrels and cause wanting to convert all to become Han and so forget their roots and not cause problem.
 

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indeed Brit r amongst the most pragmatic n insightful thus a good dealer to make trade-offs with.

they'd held India in high regards as a pearl on the crown. however Brit dumped India once it was found to b more a liability than an asset.

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Good that you realised such an elementary issue.

Fortunately, British learnt the wonders of opium to apply in China to make Chinese into zombies, so much so, the Chinese were still in a daze when Mao subjugated the Chinese and could even undertake his Cultural Revolution to decimate the population.

Apparently, the effect of opium still remains in China.
 
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Britain grabs slice of Chinese investment - FRANCE 24

From easing visa restrictions to building on recent currency cooperation and winning Beijing money for investment in British nuclear power plants, Chancellor of the Exchequer Osborne can claim to have smoothed relations with the emerging economic power.

He in part managed to win over a Chinese government that had rebuffed Britain after Prime Minister David Cameron met Dalai Lama -- the exiled spiritual leader of Tibet -- last year.
 

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I think after this business collaboration between China and UK, the chinese may get overconfident and they might pressure India to extradite Dalai Lama to China in the name of economic development.:tsk:
Why pressure India to extradite Dalai Lama to China?
That guy is dying. After he is gone, there will be a new one named by China sitting in Lahsa and those 100,000 can continue to living on India soil and eventually become indian citizen living by India financial aid.
There is nothing better than a fool wants to help you with his money.
 

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Why pressure India to extradite Dalai Lama to China?
That guy is dying. After he is gone, there will be a new one named by China sitting in Lahsa and those 100,000 can continue to living on India soil and eventually become indian citizen living by India financial aid.
There is nothing better than a fool wants to help you with his money.
So you are saying this new guy will be appointed by the Chinese government as a puppet but he won't be recognized by the Tibetan people.:suspicious:
 

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Why pressure India to extradite Dalai Lama to China?
That guy is dying. After he is gone, there will be a new one named by China sitting in Lahsa and those 100,000 can continue to living on India soil and eventually become indian citizen living by India financial aid.
There is nothing better than a fool wants to help you with his money.
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No that will not happen.

The Chinese can appoint Xi as the next Dalai Lama, if they wish.

However, the Tibetan will never acknowledge the proxy Dalai Lama, as they have not recognised the proxy Panchen Lama either.
 

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So you are saying this new guy will be appointed by the Chinese government as a puppet but he won't be recognized by the Tibetan people.:suspicious:
exactly so if u check my past posts on his holiness' "reincarnation" and complicated procedures, incl. a pic of ROC envoy conferring upon the incumbent Dalai Lama (a child then). only pollyannas would assume the head of a theocracy (children) is "democractically elected". most DLs died young or were products of scandalous nepotism thus Qing emperors laid down procedures and even deported 2 DLs at least.

then u're correct the Central appoints in the end in line with traditions.

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