U.K. may cut foreign aid to ‘rich’ India

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    Under pressure to reduce its foreign assistance, Prime Minister David Cameron may scale down the 250 million pound British aid given to India annually, saying wealthy local people could do more to help their poor countrymen.

    International Development Secretary Andrew Mitchell has signalled that the “250 million pounds of public money spent annually on nuclear-armed India could be scaled back.” He said the rich NRI population of Britain could do more to help their countrymen.

    Besides, the 40 million pounds spent by the Department for International Development (DFID) in Vietnam, now regarded as an Asian “tiger” economy, will be axed.

    It follows the disclosure that development funding to China and Russia would be withdrawn. Mr. Mitchell told The Sunday Times: “India is more complex and more difficult than China. But this is a (aid) programme I am looking at in detail.”

    He defended the government’s decision to ring-fence overseas aid while most other departments face savage cuts.

    Last month, Britain, shocked by reports of massive embezzlement in India in the use of millions of pounds granted as aid for Sarva Shiksha Abhiyan, promised “zero tolerance to corruption” and launched an “immediate inquiry”.

    Mr. Mitchell had then said in a statement to PTI that the allegations reported from India about widespread corruption in the use of British aid were “shocking”.

    “These are shocking allegations. I have launched an immediate inquiry to ensure British aid money has not been misused. The new British Government will have a zero tolerance policy to corruption,” he had said.

    “When I took up this job ... I made a pledge to British taxpayers; they must know that for every pound of their money, we will get 100 pence of value.”

    Cutting foreign aid to countries like India was the most important suggestion by voters to Chancellor George Osborne, who launched a Treasury’s Spending Challenge website to ask people for ideas on where the funding cuts axe should fall.

    As hundreds of suggestions poured in, the most popular was for international development funding to bear some of the brunt of the pain.

    Jo Johnson, a Conservative MP and brother of London Mayor Boris Johnson, wrote in The Financial Times: “India can now fund its own development needs, considerable though they are in a country with 450 million poor. It has a defence budget of $ 31.5 billion, plans for a prestige-boosting moon-shot and a substantial foreign aid programme of its own“.

    He added: “India is not China; but as a claimant to a permanent Security Council seat and a place at the top table of world affairs, it is also no longer a natural aid recipient.”

    Mr. Johnson wrote that nowhere was the need to bring the India-U.K. relationship up to date more obvious than in the area of aid.

    “The moral arguments might be finely balanced, but common sense suggests it is a better idea for the U.K. to prioritise aid to countries that cannot afford to fund their development over those that take the money because it is going free. Many other donors have in recent years either been kicked out of India for being too small or, like the U.S., whose aid flows peaked in 1960, stated they are ‘walking the last mile’ in India.

    “The UK accounts for almost 30 per cent of all foreign aid to India. A bit of tough love in the new special relationship should end this anachronism,” he said.

    As the government announced average cuts of 25 per cent in spending over five years under plans to tackle the UK’s record deficit, only the health service and foreign aid have been told they are safe from the reductions.

    http://www.thehindu.com/news/international/article510910.ece
     
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  3. venkat

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    submarine deals and MMRCA deals worth billions is making some ppl go green with envy and may be disgust!!! we dont have money to link the rivers ,we dont have money to fill the pot holes and we dont have money to provide two full sqaure meals to the 1 billion plus population!!!
     
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    Let them, its very annoying to have Brits running around and talking about their aid money, every time India does something important.

    It's important for GoI to find the money from somewhere else to make sure the development programs don't get affected. With the tax base and tax revenue increasing that may not be very difficult.
     
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    Interesting that they mention NRI's should help India ,at the same type they collect taxes that go to Britain from them. Some of the top 10 richest British are of Indian origin so they are taking note. Anyway this amount is not a big deal.
     
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    britain nowadays is a power with ultra-third rate capability and first rate ambitions .It also tries to deliver punches above its weight no too significant a thing to bother about
     
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    dude...if we dont invest in defense then there will be NO 1 to fill the pot holes,to make canals to link the rivers or even those who make food....everything will be history...
    so defense should always have priority above anything else....

    i think we can easily fund our self....we dont need foreign help at all....are GDP is rocking ....
     
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    Well, thanks for that we must say to the Brits. But we also say please do the few righteous thing i) please return the trillion dollars loot that your ancestors stole from our country including all the artifacts, The Kohinoor, 44 priceless Mugal paintings and countless other loots that your forefathers systematically taken away from India. by the way do not forget to add the raw materials that was drained out to invest to spur your Industrial revolution also. it makes me wonder how shallow and arrogant these Britishers are becoming now a days. In spite of imposing unbearable pain and sufferings in dividing India and doing every possible way to foment further disintegration of India like supporting secessionist movement in Kashmir until now, or trying to project India's poverty and her imaginative failure in every available platform or media e.g. "slumdog Millionire" they still do not seeing that there end is near. First they should be stripped of their UN council seat in favor of India and should be told start repaying the loot.

    thanks-

    Sean
     
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    It is the correct step. We can't be making billions of dollar arms deals and looking for aid at the same time.

    Indian economy will exceed Britain's soon. No point in any aid from them.
     
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    All of you please try to understand that UK Economy is not what is used to be. Last year they shrank by 4-5 % . They donot have money for themself how can they give grant to India ? Moreover very soon we will surpass UK so now we should start giving AID to them . Mother India is again at rescue of Queen Victoria.
     
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    I'd like to see how GOI spokesperson respond to this action.....
     
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    If India has b4lls then come & take all the things u mentioned from the British.
    The British were ruthless rulers, again if India has b4lls come & punish the British - eye 4 an eye, no?
    Slumdog was a global hit, no? And the British director has done more for those slum dwelling kids then your GoI could ever do!
    Who is going to strip Britian of their UN seat?

    Forget the British, you Indians need to sort out the corruption and vote bank politics holding your country back. How about doing something to get back the TRILLION dollars plus from the Swiss banks held by INDIANS YOU PUT AND KEEP IN POWER?
     
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    hahahahaaaa, India going to give aid to Britian, when India cannot even afford to give a toilet to 700 million Indian citizens. Yep British economy is not doing so well at the mo, but we will manage, you don't need to worry about us, just worry about doing something for the 450 million Indians who live below the poverty line and worry about being screwed by the politicians & leaders u vote for & keep in power.
     
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    Good God, the GoI has stopped accepting aid from any other countries ages ago. Aid that comes into the country goes to NGOs and not to the GoI. India decided it is going to be giver of aid and not recepient. India in recent times has given quite a bit of aid to Bangladesh and the likes.
     
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    Well, whatsoever UK is going in crisis but not as much as rest Europe. UK should save money for their better now. Already AC QE cancelled & EF funding+orders in doubt.

    True that India will surpass UK economy in no matter of time. This action is part of UK's move to save money. No matter, it doesn't even concern GOI.
     
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    No matter what you Indians say, here in the UK we enjoy a far better quality of life, our government looks after us, we get free healthcare, education, (if needed, free housing, welfare cheques), pensions, CLEAN streets, etc, etc. At the end of the day, it is human nature to seek a decent standard of living, we British (even the poorest) enjoy above average standard of living. We don't wake up smelling sh1t because our government can't provide a toilet. And I hate saying this about India, but man alive it's so freaking dirty & smelly (don't give me no BS about British looting you & leaving you in such a state, I am not a fan of what the Brits did to India, but you have had over 60 years to sort the country out, instead you allow those you keep in power to steal from you & hold the country back).
     
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    India is still under-development & Briton already ranks among Developed nation, Its no Eureka! but known fact.... But no matter of time World is going multi-polar with all known three pillars - US, China & India. And all those shiny surveys stating who'll pass whom by 2030 or 2050. So it doesnt make sense, new nations are rising fast like even Brazil who'll give other economies tough competition.

    However, change is the only constant. I dont feel that in the path where Indians are finding better living everyday with one of the highest salary hikes, Brits will rot in hell. There always has been & will be co-existance. Nations do prosper in harmony.

    Corruption & leaving away common man's interests isn't just in India, it all over. So corruption happens in India is nothing strange....
     
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    nrj, why will Brits rot in hell?
     
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    Do you wish to instigate the Indian members by your disgusting mentality... There is absolutely no difference between you and the people who looted India and the people who are looting India right now.. IF you wanna whine about how smelly India is then come here provide some sanity from your own pockets and of you cant do that you should STFU and mind your own business..

    IF your an Indian born and Raised in UK and love UK so much..why don't you opt for UK citizenship ? Our country is in such a mess because PEOPLE LIKE YOU F**KING RAN AWAY FROM OUR COUNTRY TO STAY IN YOUR MATERIALISTIC UK LIFESTYLES AND GOT THE GUTS TO SPROUT YOUR BS ABOUT HOW DIRTY THIS COUNTRY IS FROM AN AC ROOM...i live in india and will work for India and wont run away to some outside country calling it home and sprout bullshit..In short...YOU have absolutely no right to say all the BS you said if you cannot do anything good in India because you NEVER contributed anything for this country....


    sorry mods....i hate people who run away form there own country and sprout how dirty there country of origin is..
     
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    Thats what I said, they will not. There will be Prosperous co-existance.

    Anyways this thread is totally off the track now...
     
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    http://www.hindu.com/2010/07/12/stories/2010071255451000.htm

    U.K. to review aid to India

    LONDON:Britain is to review its £250 million annual development assistance to India amid a growing sense in Whitehall and among independent experts that a country which spends millions on its nuclear programme and is seen as an emerging economic giant does not need foreign aid any more.

    India is the single largest recipient of British overseas aid, mostly tied to specific projects, and in recent months ministers have struggled to justify this at a time when Britain itself is facing sweeping cuts in public spending following its worst post-War economic crisis.

    The Secretary of State for International Development Andrew Mitchell on Sunday indicated that the aid package to India could be reduced as part of an overall review of British assistance to fast developing major economies. Funding to China and Russia is reported to have been already withdrawn.

    “More complex”

    “India is more complex and more difficult than China. But this is a programme I am looking at in detail,'' Mr. Mitchell told The Sunday Times.

    Recently, his Conservative Party colleague and The Financial Times' former South Asia bureau chief Jo Johnson called for Britain to stop funding India saying that it was “no longer a natural aid recipient.”

    “India can now fund its own development needs…It has a defence budget of $ 31.5 billion, plans for a prestige-boosting moon-shot and a substantial foreign aid programme of its own,'' he wrote, adding that “a bit of tough love in the new special relationship should end this anachronism.”

    The pressure to review funding to India has grown following allegations of misuse of millions of pounds of British educational grant by Indian authorities. Mr. Mitchell described them as “shocking allegations'' and promised an investigation.

    Officially the line until now had been that despite progress India still needed assistance to deal with the “scale of its needs.''

    The entry on India on the Department for International Development's website features a photo of a “family group in a slum” in Patna and notes: “The country has accomplished a great deal since independence in 1947, making slow but steady progress. However, despite its strong economic growth, the scale of its need is huge. Today 456 million Indians — 42 per cent of the population — live in poverty, comprising one-third of the world's poor.”

    Recently, in an article in The Hindu, Mr. Mitchell wrote that Britain would continue to support “the millions of Indians who are battling against poverty and disease.”

    “Our message is this: the people and Government of Britain are on your side, and we will use every tool in our policy armoury — aid, trade, climate policy, diplomacy, business investment, and more — to champion fairness and prosperity for you,'' he wrote, pointing out that a “fifth of global child and maternal deaths, and cases of TB occur in India'' while over 40 per cent of children in India were underweight and a child died every 15 minutes from easily preventable diseases.
     
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