Two Russian jets 'breach' Japanese airspace

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  1. SajeevJino

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    Two Russian jets 'breach' Japanese airspace, Tokyo scrambles warplanes


    Two Russian fighter jets violated Japanese airspace on Thursday as Tokyo scrambled its own planes in response, the defence ministry said, reportedly the first such incident in five years.

    The Russian planes were detected off the coast of northernmost Hokkaido island for just over a minute, shortly after Japan's new prime minister said he wants to find a "mutually acceptable solution" to a decades-old territorial row between the countries.



    Japan's foreign ministry lodged a formal protest over the incursion by a pair of Russian Su-27 fighters at about 3pm local time (0600 GMT).

    "Today, around 3pm, military fighters belonging to Russian Federation breached our nation's airspace above territorial waters off Hokkaido's Rishiri island," the foreign ministry said.

    It was the first breach of Japanese airspace by Russia since February 2008, according to Japanese media reports Thursday.

    The incident came hours after hawkish Japanese premier Shinzo Abe — who swept to power in December with pledges to get tough on diplomacy — offered apparently conciliatory comments toward Moscow over the Russian-administered Southern Kurils, known as the Northern Territories in Japan.

    Abe's tone was in marked contrast to his uncompromising stance on a dispute with Beijing over the sovereignty of a different set of disputed islands.

    "There is no change in my resolve to do everything I can towards sealing a peace treaty with Russia after resolving the issue of the Northern Territories," Abe said.

    In December, Abe and Russian President Vladimir Putin agreed to restart talks on signing a peace treaty formally ending the hostilities of World War II that has been stymied by the dispute.

    "In the telephone talks, I told President Putin I would make efforts to find a mutually acceptable solution so as to ultimately solve the issue of the Northern Territories," Abe told a government-backed rally of around 2,000 former islanders and their descendants in Tokyo.

    Soviet forces seized the isles, which stretch out into rich fishing waters off the northern coast of Hokkaido, in the dying days of WWII and drove out Japanese residents.

    The islands were later re-populated by Russians but remain a poor and undeveloped part of the country.

    Abe's comments come as tensions between Japan and China have intensified over the sovereignty of the Tokyo-administered Senkaku Islands in the East China Sea, claimed by Beijing as the Diaoyus.

    On Tuesday Japan said a Chinese frigate had locked its weapons-targeting radar onto a Japanese military vessel, the first time the two nation's navies have locked horns in a dispute that flared badly last summer.

    Abe on Wednesday called the radar move "dangerous" and "provocative".

    On Thursday, Beijing shot back that Tokyo has been "hyping up crisis and deliberately creating tension to smear China's image".

    The Japanese prime minister has repeatedly said there is no room for negotiation over the East China Sea islands. But he has also stressed the row should not harm overall ties with Beijing, an important trading partner.


    Two Russian jets 'breach' Japanese airspace, Tokyo scrambles warplanes - The Times of India
     
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    7 Feb. is Japan's "Northern Territory Day". Abe is making a speech in the conference requesting Russia to return South Kurils

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    Moscow denies Russian fighter jets violated Japanese airspace


    Moscow has denied its fighter jets breached Japanese airspace. The Japanese Defense Ministry earlier said two Russian combat fighter jets briefly entered Japan`s airspace just off the northern island of Hokkaido.


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    Russian aviation of the Pacific navy has been performing scheduled flights in the area and no airspace violation took place, a Russian military spokesman told the press.

    “Naval aviation flights by the Pacific Fleet in this area are conducted regularly in strict accordance with international regulations of using the airspace, without violation of other countries’ borders,” Roman Martov said.

    Meanwhile, Tokyo lodged a protest saying two of its own combat jets were sent to scramble the violators which they identified as SU-27 aircraft.

    A similar incident happened a year ago on February 8, 2012, when several Russian war planes flew close to Japanese territory. Japan admitted that the planes did not violate its airspace, but Japanese fighter jets were alerted.

    On Thursday Japan marks the anniversary of an 1855 treaty which Japan says supports its claims over the Pacific island chain which Russia calls the Southern Kurils and Japan terms the Northern Territories. The islands became Soviet territory after its victory in WWII, but Japan did not agree with this division. The over 60-year-old dispute is ongoing.


    Moscow denies Russian fighter jets violated Japanese airspace — RT
     
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    Then is it chinese who violated the region
     
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    Russian did this again, but with 2 TU-142 this time into Japanese airspace, on 27 April.

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    Sweet flirtation!:p
     
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    Notice how all indians are quite in such thread. But when you change it to China vs Japan, then all of them jump in.

    Talk about double standards. :rolleyes:
     
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    We like our standards :rofl:
     
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    Oh C'mon ...its just a difference in 'perception'.
    All these about that lil difference in perception between "our" friends..

    I liked the way PRC care for the Japnese.

    Hello my frandzzz from PRC learn this "Watashi o utsute inai" . Will come in handy.
     
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    Before pointing finger at some one check your other 3 from ur Middle finger to ur Pinky they point at u
     
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    Does your parents teach you to be junvenile on the internet or does it come naturally?
     
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    Why don't u shut the FISH up and stay within the topic and do not cross the forum ethics i don't know how they teach in China in India we don't talk about Family to Strange Chinese Chutias and if you cant answer the question i asked then shut the hell up
     
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    Good point, but it is reality of international relations, not an unfair perspective..
     
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    I love the word 'breach' :happy:
     
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    Well, flush with oil & gas money, & Military modernization steaming up in Russia, they are all too keen to assert their claims around. On the whole, these are just one-off incidents, & would be suitably brushed aside once the Japs conclude their peace treaty in Russia.
     
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    Not one off, it happens regularly since Soviet era.

    Peace treaty? No Russia won't hand over any island to Japan NOW. Will Japan sign it without territorial settlement?
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    http://www.eurasiareview.com/29052013-japan-russia-territorial-disputes-finding-a-solution-analysis/
     
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    That's the point. Whenever some nations feel capable enough, they start throwing their weight around. Unavoidable reality.
    In Cold War era, almost everyone avoided military confrontations with Soviets.
    But, for all you care, these incidents (between Rus-Japs) don't have the potential of escalating into a major conflagration.
     
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    Another breach of Japanese airspace on 5/31, this time by Russian IL-20

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    1. Proper Source missing.
    2. If the first image shows the flight path of the plane, then it clearly does not go over Japanese airspace, does it ?
    At least post a caption describing the image as not everyone understands Mandarin.
     
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    The image is captioned in JAPANESE not Madarin

    1) Source: homepage of Japanese Defense Ministry (MOD) http://www.mod.go.jp/js/Press/press2013/press_pdf/p20130531.pdf
    2) If foreign mil. aircrafts were so close to your coastline, what would IAF have reacted?? In this incident Japanese F-15 had to scramble

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