Tsar Putin

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  1. W.G.Ewald

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    Articles: Tsar Putin

     
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    You know, Putin is not that bad. As far as I know, real democratic opposition in Russia is weak, and the stronger opposition is mainly made by concrete head communists and hard line nationalists.

    So Putin is better than any possible alternative, and he rather seek stabilization in his country, than making it unstable and dangerous also for neighboures.
     
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    First of all, the author of the article, Ion Mihai Pacepa, is apparently a Moldovan or Romanian. I didn't expect anything different from him. Right content for the right audience (west, and their lackeys), I would say.

    Secondly, the second election of Yeltsin was hardly democratic. It was more of a CIA funded cover up operation than anything else.

    Thirdly, why do such authors talk about democracy only when it suits them? Whatever happened to the referendum to preserve the USSR that was ignored by Yeltsin? For some reason he is hailed by the west as the paragon of democracy, when he has acted in quite the opposite manner?
     
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    Politics, this says something to You?

    USSR was collapsing by that time, was weak in economy and internal politics, You wouldn't take a chance to further weaken Your biggest adversary?
     
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    Exactly, but then, for the crook that he was, I am not surprised that he showed the thumb (the non existent one) to Gorbachev and the referendum and destroyed the USSR. Politics, you are right, but I beg to disagree. 70% of the Soviet Union, save for the Baltics, wanted to preserve the USSR in a reformed state, and not dismantle it. That was the democratic wish of the people that Yeltsin acted against, for personal greed for power.
     
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    You know that democracy is the weakes and most inefficent political system? ;)

    Absolute Monarchy is best... Putin, Tsar, ekhm, ekhm. ;)
     
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    To be honest, democracy is a boring, inefficient and chaotic system, that simply doesn't work. That is not the fault of democracy that it doesn't work. It's simply dishonesty, greed and selfishness of the powers that be that is responsible. Same reason why communism didn't work.

    It's time we declared democracy as outdated.
     
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    As I said, we should back to monarchy.

    State and nation in monarchy is property of king (emperor, ceasar, tsar), so he will not waste resources (money, humans/citizens etc.) on stupidness, and if he is stupid enough to do that? Well, tell me, what is easier, poison one fool or 100 (or more) fools sitting in parliment and discussing how to steal more money from citizens? Obviously it is easier to poison one fool.

    Besides this, royal families are mostly very big, so there is allways good chance that somewhere there will borne person with great capability to be great leader. Not to mention that kids in royal families were trained from youngest to be good rulers of their state, country and nation.

    And hey, good king is a symbol, symbol that have great respect in citizens, and unite them, not divide in to different parties with different goals... at least not in the same level as political parties.

    In fact the only democracy that was working was democracy in US, untill Americans started to copying European democracy... then everything started to ---- up.
     

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