Trouble in Finland — Rapes, Jihads and More

[sorcerer]

Finland- The land of Jihad and Rapes?

This thread will post all articles related to Finland!!!

There are 2 advantages with this .
1) When our finnish posters try to derail the thread with fin post..we can cross post it into this thread. and provide the link

2) Show the finnish posters the mirror...even educate the fin posters about their own messed up cuntry.

3)A complete repository of a future failure called Finland.


Finland: Ongoing Immigrant Rape Fiasco
MV Lehti
August 11, 2015



A northern city of Finland called Oulu has been on the national news for two weeks now because of three separate cases: two attempts and one rape.

For once the police have informed the public of the rapists’ skin colour to the public. In the two first cases the suspects are dark skinned, but the third one is still open because there are two opposing views: the victim’s and the police’s.

A local group of men had start patrolling in one area of Oulu before these rapes took place, because they learnt that there was a young man of African origin following women in the evening time, and harassing them.

The patrolling citizens caught the young man, talked to him and took his picture which they will publish if the young man continues harassing women.

The police informed the public that they cannot stop this kind of patrolling by individuals but they do not see any need for it. In fact, they wished this kind of patrolling would stop.

Then the three rape cases happened.

The first rape attempt took place on the 25th of July, early Saturday morning, at 4 a.m. A woman was bicycling, when someone attacked her, violently abused her and tried to undress her to rape her. When other people approached, the assailant took off with a “squeaky bicycle”, as it was described in the police bulletin.

The police informed that they were looking for a man with dark skin, almost black hair and ample hair on his body.


This is the journalist (Tuomas Muraja) who has been threatening the young victim’s family friend.
The second rape attempt took place on Sunday, the 2nd of August, at about 4:20 a.m., when a young woman was walking near the city centre. She noticed that she was being followed. After a while she was pushed down from behind and three dark skinned men tried to undress her. The young woman put up a fight and tore bushes of hair from the assailants’ heads, while two men that happened to be in the vicinity came to her rescue. She ran to safety.

The third one was a full rape. A 15-year-old girl was brutally raped on the evening of Tuesday the 4th of August by two men.

And the police kept silent.

The girl’s family friend posted on Facebook an update where she let people understand that the rapists were not ethnic Finns. This she had heard from the girl herself.

And hell broke lose, when the police finally made a public announcement on Friday the 7th of August that the rapists were ethnic Finns and they are under arrest.

One journalist in particular went berserk. As it happens, this person, Tuomas Muraja, is a journalist in the biggest newspaper of Finland, Helsingin Sanomat. He contacted the victim’s family friend and told her that he represents this newspaper and went on to declare her a racist, bigot and a criminal for making claims towards a minority, namely immigrants. He threatened her with a prison sentence and made her guilty of all future attacks towards immigrants.

The lady replied that the raped girl still says that the rapists were not Finnish.

At the moment, all media people in Finland – the majority of them is multiculturalist – are holding their breath for the truth to come out, while the Finnish Council for Mass Media is investigating the conduct of this one journalist, and his employer is thinking of what to do with him, and the raped girl’s family member is thinking whether she should sue this journalist for defamation and threats.

You see, the whole communication between the journalist and the raped girl’s family member were made public by MV Publication.

And amidst all this turmoil, nobody is worried about the 15-year-old girl who got brutally raped by two grown men.



http://www.dailystormer.com/finland-ongoing-immigrant-rape-fiasco/

Since out finnish poster is so obsessed with rapes and terrorism...its better we give the finnish poster a corner of their own.

Lets make this an awesome educational repository for the fins
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[sorcerer]

Tapanila train rape case suspects on remand
Number of rape cases rises in 2014
FTimes – STT Report, Mar 14


The arrested people on charge of violating woman in train were taking to Helsinki district court on Friday. Photo – Str / Lehtikuva.
Rape cases reported to the police last year was the highest ever in the 2000s, reported Finnish language daily Helsingin Sanomat.

A total of 939 cases of rape, aggravated rape and attempted rape were reported to the police in 2014.

The increase in the rape cases reports could partly be attributed to legislative amendment which expanded the definition of rape.

Acts which were previously considered as coerced sexual intercourse have been viewed as rape from September, 2014.

Hannu Niemi, senior researcher at National Research Institute of Legal Policy, in an interview with Helsigin Sanomat disputed that the legislative change could explain the huge increase in the number of rape reports filed to the police.

"Rape case could have happened more than in the past or people have reported the cases more actively," said Niemi.

According to Niemi, the increase of rape case in the long run could be explained by the fact the population of foreigners has grown.


Tapanila station in Helsinki where a women was violated inside train on March 9. Photo – Lehtikuva.
Every one in three person convicted of rape if of a foreign background.

Meanwhile, five miscreants suspected of raping a woman in a commuter train in Tapanila on March 9 have been remanded.


The Helsinki District Court on Friday remanded the five suspects in suspicion of aggravated rape. The suspects are aged between 15 and 18 years.

The woman got off from the train a quarter past nine in the evening at Tapanila. The group of the boys followed the woman after the incident in the train and continued harassing the woman. The boys are also suspected of raping the woman near Tapanila railway station.

The police have confirmed that the suspects have been talking about the events but none has given in to the allegations.

The police are still appealing for witnesses.:bs:


http://www.finlandtimes.fi/national/2015/03/14/15100/Number-of-rape-cases-rises-in-2014#prettyPhoto

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May be the train was moving tooo fast for the woman to jump...

 

[sorcerer]

The Government of India should look at these cases :




Finland’s Funding of Extremist NGOS
July 30, 2015 by Citizen Daily in EDITORS' CHOICE, Environment, POLITIC with 0 Comments

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By Tania Pahad

The newly-appointed center-right Finnish government winning the elections with 62 per cent of the Eduskunta (the unicameral national legislature) seats, was quick to undo some of the costly programs implemented by the previous administration.

The new administration, which is a coalition of three parties, viz., Centre Party, Finns Party and National Coalition Party, swept into power on May 29, and took less than a week’s time to untie itself from the previous government’s support for civil society and international solidarity programs.

This decision, much to the shock and horror of the many NGOs in Finland, is being called a “huge turn-around in Finnish foreign policy, where international solidarity has been one of the core elements,” by Marko Ulvil, chairperson of the Siemenpuu Foundation, a leading Finnish NGO, in a statement.

These aid cuts have been in the pipeline for years now. In 2013, the former government headed by Prime Minister Alexander Stubb, agreed to a reduction of development cooperation funds between 2015 and 2017. However, this almost 50 per cent cut in development aid does come as a shocker to most critics of this austerity program, especially within the development sector.

(source: http://yle.fi/uutiset/development_n...ent_cuts_affect_half_a_million_people/8142271)

Former EU Commissioner, Olli Rehn, the minister of economic affairs in the new government, has said the cuts will start this year. No more revenue from emission allowance auctions will be allocated to development cooperation. Another cut worth €300 million would come in the 2016 budget. The cuts combined would mean a cut of 43% compared to 2014.

The foreign ministry, which is responsible for the development cooperation budget, has already warned NGOs that they should prepare for 30–40% cuts next year. While this obviously impacts new contracts, it also allows the government to key-in some fine print that will enable it to cancel these multi-year agreements.

Finland, which is known to try and harmonize itself within the EU, has established its positon as one of the most generous donors with the OECD, with this aid being utilized in nearly 70 countries spread across the globe. What worries the development sector is that Finland’s new drive may have just paved the way for other donors within the EU and started off a domino effect, a step that is being called as “killing the NGO sector”.

The Indonesian – Finnish connection


Since 1976, the number of these government-funded NGOs has grown from six to over 400, with environmental NGOs comprising a tiny percentage of this number.

The Siemenpuu Foundation, based in Helsinki, is one of the preferred Finnish government favorite local NGOs and was founded in 1998 by 15 Finnish NGOs and foundations working with environmental and developmental issues. The Finnish word, Siemenpuu, means the “mother tree” or “seed tree.” The Foundation receives its funding from the public development cooperation funds administered by the Ministry for Foreign Affairs of Finland. The Foundation’s budget for 2015 is 2.1 million Euros.

In fact, ironically, in a 2008 NGO evaluation project undertaken by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Finland, the authors are quick to point out that “outside observers consider that some of these members are “idealistic” or even “radical,” whereas other members are considered to be more “moderate” or “pragmatic.”

Siemenpuu runs a cooperation program in Indonesia and a regional one in the Mekong region of Indonesia. While available data is outdated, Siemenpuu had awarded 26 grants to 18 organizations in Indonesia, as of mid-2008 and the total value of all the grants provided to groups in Indonesia amounted to approximately €0.5 million per year.

Indonesia also remains a strategic trade partner for Finland, and a diplomatic one since 1954, and one of the key actors within the South East Asia region, a fact that is proclaimed by the Finnish foreign ministry itself. In fact, Finnish imports to Indonesia stood at 124.9 million Euros, while exports from Indonesia to Finland amounted to 136.1 million Euros (2013 figures).

For some time now, one of the pet projects of the Finnish NGO is the funding of an Indonesian NGO called Jikalahari. Funded in average with 300,000 euros per year, Jikalahari enjoys the Finnish government’s unwavering support. Located in Riau, Sumatra, Indonesia, this group calls itself a forest protection network of NGOs, but is described by Indonesian security officials as a “hotbed of militant activists plotting revolutions”.

In the interim, while the development sector in Finland is indeed up in arms about the cut in aid, security officials halfway across the globe have certainly made clear their satisfaction with this cut. Given the fact that these very security officials, have in the past, time and again, pointed out links to radicals being funded by foreign donors, they aren’t unhappy about the decision by the new Finnish administration.

“We had questions about the foreign funding by the Finnish NGO through the government foreign aid funding local extremists”, said an official of the State Intelligence Agency (BIN), on condition of anonymity.

Members of Friends of the Earth Indonesia, locally called WALHI – (Friends of the Earth Finland is one of the 16 NGOs within The Siemenpuu Foundation) – however, rejected the idea. “The state continues to exploit the poor and criminalizes the farmers,” they said. However, when pressed on what are the relationships between a militant underground which is fermenting the militant NGO scene in Riau, the Friends of the Earth Indonesia official redirected the question, “This is a question you need to ask Jikalahari directly,” the official said.

In what appears to be a plot straight out of a Hollywood movie, in 2011, it emerged that board members of the Finnish-funded NGOs were implicated in the pre-meditated murder of a forestry worker, killed in an execution-style murder. A second victim was able to avoid the ambush and alerted the police, subsequently leading to the discovery of a terrorist group. The police arrested three of the 16 named fundamental socialist suspects. “We arrested some of them, but will not rest until we capture the rest of the offenders”, said police chief after the Bengkalis court passed a 16-year sentence on one of the leaders of the radical group.

Finland Sponsoring Extremism?

Whereas Siemenpuu will argue the funding was critical to the protection of the eco-system, the local group is perforated with a set of extremists pursuing more revolutionary goals. In Indonesia, Marxist-Leninist parties are today still banned by law as a result of the 1965 attempted coup d’état. And if the murder, spades of arson attacks and attempted murder are an indication the local groups have crossed the Rubicon.


Members of the board of the Finnish-sponsored local NGO are ardent revolutionaries, who use violence to “mobilize the masses”, said a young female media student, regurgitating the instructions issues by the Deputy Coordinator, who is said to also have served as the Head of Propaganda and Agitation Department of the People’s Democratic Party’s central committee in Riau, Sumatra.

Another example is the former Chairman of the Central Committee posing as the Head of the Riau Advocacy Group called KAR. Today, actively involved in the environmental tourism business partially funded by Finnish taxpayer’s money, the radicals continue pursuing extremist ideologies. It begs the question if the Finnish tax payer inadvertently funds radicalism.

But, even more mainstream groups are part of the Finnish-funded group. Greenpeace is represented by its activist posing as Riau Mandiri, as well other foreign Non-Governmental Organizations are part of the group funded by Finland. The previous head of Jikalahari is associated with leftist social media groups depicting decapitated victims from the Mexican drug war and is a close friend of the convicted killer.

Indonesia’s political landscape is ripe with stories and followers of the radical left, a deadly mix of what can be described as manic radical Indonesian neo-communists, but, dubbed by the government as fundamentalist socialists. Tragically, these often-blind, yet yearning-to-be-guided, militant left is oft-used by the country’s politicians to serve their populist political agenda of creating disorder and disrupt civil peace.

What makes this story quite similar to other such fables within other South East/Asian countries like India, is that there is often a foreign hand at play, albeit in the easy and convenient guise of a NGO working for the cause of the environment and against the monied and capitalist west, the same ones who feed them with this propaganda.

Some of the actors for this are a dangerous mix: a militant neo-communist posing as a tourism guide and former Chairman of the Central Committee, the Secretary General of the Central Committee and now spouse of the former Chairman, a university drop-out acting as the underground political agitation and propaganda department head, now Deputy Director for the NGO funded by Finnish tax money, and a young confused Islamist-turned-fundamental-socialist-turned-radicalized-communist leader, now serving a 16-year jail term for planning and executing a murder. This motley crew of Indonesians believes the country is in need of an Islamic caliphate, a la the ISIS, but under the flag of socialism. After a suspicious and secretive election of a new board of the Indonesian NGO – in early 2015 – reports emerged that members of Jikalahari were excluded to ensure the fundamentalist socialists gained access to foreign funding.

New programs, such as harmless tourism projects on the surface, fail to understand the linkages to extremists involved in the 2011 killings. The lack of critical oversight by Finnish authorities causes increasingly bilateral tensions.

Foreign Hand That Feeds Dissent

Dr Matthias Wagner, a German academic studying extremism within social media and civil society groups, said, “Western governments, including Europeans and the American funds like the Climate Land Use Alliance, a front for American industrial private funds, view the local NGOs with pink glasses and are ignorant about the fact that local civil society and environmental NGOs are peppered with extremists.”

“Foreign-funded NGOs provide shelter, legitimacy and more importantly, money for activists paid by the tax-payers. We have seen a continuous increase in militancy in communities wherever these extremists posing as environmentalists appear,” Dr Wagner said, adding that the combination of a high level of ignorance and lack of internal controls by the donor organizations allows extremists to remain largely undetected.

He noted that communal violence is often portrayed by foreign and local NGO groups alike as a struggle by ‘poor farmers’ against the system, however, close examination of Marxist-inspired violence shows careful planning. Court documents suggested the Marxist groups were swearing an oath of alliance eerily close to a process more in line with extreme jihadists. Dr Wagner added, kinship, close family and school ties play an important role in the radicalization process within the civil society groups. Evidence of Islamic militants tinkering with extremists in the civil society spectrum is constantly present.

Quickly dismissed by environmental and civil society groups as ‘criminalization’ by the state, research suggests otherwise. The fascination with violence, revolutionary ideology and Marxism aimed to return are increasingly entering the national debate. Agus Jabo Priyono, Central Committee’s chairman said in his 2014 National Day speech, “to return Indonesian socialism by parliamentarian and extra-parliamentarian means” signaled an open challenge to the order of things. The Indonesian head of the armed forces was quick to identify communism as a “latent threat” and claims foreign NGOs are waging a ‘proxy war’ against Indonesian interests.

The foreign NGOs playing a big part in Indonesia include Greenpeace, Friends of the Earth/FoE, Forest Peoples Programme/FPP, and EarthFirst! Jikalahari, since 2005, received regularly funding engaging in direct actions against companies. In 2012, the Finnish group Siemenpuu (Friends of the Earth Finland) received 160,000 euros for grants to fight to protect the Kampar peat land, home of the last Sumatran tiger.

In 2012, a study conducted by the Indonesian Defence University identified the New Leftist extremists dispersed within the environmental and political scene to conceal their association with prohibited Marxists. The Finnish and other foreign NGOs provide shelter and more importantly, financial resources to extremist activists.

“We are concerned about the increasing violent mindset that appears within the civil society actors”, says Dr Hamdi Muluk, who studies the political psychology landscape in Indonesia. “Foreign donors do have a responsibility to ensure voices promoting hate, violence and dissent are exposed and expelled,” he said, adding that “more work and controls by the foreign donors themselves are needed”. Siemenpuu, when contacted, was unwilling to comment on the issue.

Eco Warriors Or Just Extremists in new clothes?


The leftist ideology of NGOs and their unabashed love for all things Marxist make them easy targets for foreign actors looking to feed dissent into an already broken political milieu. Not only Indonesia, but even hard core leftist countries like Russia, and the populist and secular India, too, have made clear their views about NGOs that operate within their geographies with the “help” of foreign “aid”.

While Indonesia may have its share of neo-communists, India is not far behind with its potent mix of Naxals, Maoists and other separatists, all of whom have a single-minded agenda of creating their own land.

In India, the year-old Modi government got into quick mode and went behind the “thousands of NGOs that do not file taxes and receive foreign aid”. Of the total 40,000 registered NGOs, almost half of them receive foreign funding. The government has said that over 10,300 NGOs did not file their annual returns for several years, and were sent notices to do so within a few weeks. When almost 9,000 of them did not do so, their licenses were cancelled.

In fact, in 2012, the then Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, a man of very few words, sent his office into a tizzy when, in an interview to a US-based magazine, he said that rich NGOs from the US and Scandinavian nations were behind the protests that are stalling the setting up of two more reactors at the nuclear power plant in Kudankulam, Tamil Nadu. In quick rhetoric, the Foreign Contribution Regulatory Act (FCRA) licenses of four NGOs active in the Kudankulam area were promptly revoked by the government.

Back in 2003, intelligence agencies within the country were able to point out links between Maoists group in the state of Jharkhand procuring arms and ammunition with the help of funding that was provided by NGOs operating in the area and in turn being funded by other South East Asian countries. It should be noted here, that at that point, Jharkhand’s separatists, who were fighting for their own land, were successfully able to “create” it in early 2000. The state is known to be a hotbed of local fighters, known as adivasis, who roam around with up-to-date and modern arms and believe in guerilla warfare, and also use their foreign funding for the purpose of conversion with the help of Christian missionaries.

As of now, the Indian government has come up with a list of 188 NGOs, which the home ministry believes are into funding extremism, stage managing protests or indulging in conversions – a pattern very much identical to Indonesian extremists.

The NGOs have been reported by the Intelligence Bureau for a range of activities — violation of FCRA, links with Left-wing extremists (LWE), “conversion” of tribals to Christianity, and association with organisations such as Students Islamic Movement of India and Jamaat-e-Islami Hind.

Whether in Indonesia or India, the fact remains that NGOs that work with foreign funding continue to operate with a leftist mind set, and thus, are forever willing to work against the state, all in the name of pro-environmentalism.

David Kaimowitz of the Ford Foundation, spoke in April 2015 at the European Parliament calling supermarkets “converted crime scenes”. His theatrical performance was noteworthy since the Ford Foundation quoted the death of a young villager.

The only problem of the tragic death of the young activist highlights the relationship between leftist militant activists who was a member of the Serikat Petani Tebo – also called Serikat Tani Tebo (STT) – hired by WWF, Friends of the Earth and others. The role of the STT and Greenpeace was never investigated.

Neither was the question examined whether the use of militant groups, such as the STT, escalated the tensions causing the death. The Ford Foundation did not respond to media inquiries.

The question is: which green do they proclaim their love for? The interest of the public or the interests for questionable causes using increasingly violent means in the name of environmentalism? And, has our collective political ignorance contributed to the radicalization of environmental scene and funded extremism? Lastly, are groups like the Ford Foundation and Climate Land Use Alliance continuing to fund the radicalization of activism in Asia?

http://en.citizendaily.net/finlands-funding-of-extremist-ngos/

 

[thethinker]

@jouni - A thread exclusively about Finland. Do update it regularly !

 

[thethinker]

Women’s harassment in public on rise in Finland

http://www.finlandtimes.fi/travel/2015/03/18/15195/Women’s-harassment-in-public-on-rise
http://www.finlandtimes.fi/travel/2015/03/18/15195/Women%E2%80%99s-harassment-in-public-on-rise
A large number of harassment cases faced by women and girls in public places or while using public transport remain unexposed.

Due to shame or feelings of guilt, young people rarely come forward to speak about such incidents, explained Tanja Auvinen, the executive director at Nourten Exit, a non-profit organization that provides support and information to young people.

Adults should draw a clear line against situations of harassment and show that it is not acceptable, Auvinen stresses.

Harassment while using the public transport is particularly depressing to victims because, for instance, one cannot exit the metro while it is on the move, says Kristiina Hannila, an expert who oversees sexual violence issues at Helsingin Tyttöjen Talo, a support organisation for girls and young women.

Incidents of harassment are rarely reported to the police, and sexual harassment was only added to the Finnish Penal Code as recent as September 2014.

Legal aid needed by rape victims or other victims of sexual abuse is not always offered, according to Rape Crisis Centre-Tukinainen, a national resource centre which provides support to victims of sexual abuse.

Those who report cases or the victims who are interrogated by the police are always entitled to legal aid; however, it is not always offered.

“In this case, not all issues of legal significance are brought up,” said Riitta Silver, development manager in legal matters at Rape Crisis Centre. The authorities do not necessarily know how to handle victims discreetly, added Silver.

Despite reduced bullying, disdain and blame of victims over the years, these issues are still manifested sometimes. The worst-case scenario is when no action at all is taken against a reported crime.

“The authorities do not understand that victims are not always able to speak out about everything,” says Heli Heinjoki, director of crisis work at Tukinainen.

Furthermore, information does not flow well enough on the side of health care.

“The victims sometimes have difficulties in getting referral, for example, to a psychiatrist,” said Heinjoki.

Annual statistics from Tukinainen reaffirm the old belief that victims of rape or other sexual abuse often know the identity of the perpetrators.

According to the statistics, most commonly, the description of the perpetrators given by a caller points at people familiar with the victims themselves, and whose identity is also known to the victim.

Similarly, the perpetrators also happen to be partners of the victim. The statistics reveal that only one in 10 cases perpetrators happen to be completely unknown to the victims.

Most of the calls received by the Rape Crisis Centre are made by victims of rape. A total of 430 first-time callers contacted the rape centre last year.

 

[sorcerer]

defenceforumindia.com/forum/threads/modis-crush-western-ngo-campaign-begins.61433/page-27#post-1080915

jouni said: ↑
http://www.iltalehti.fi/ulkomaat/2015092420409431_ul.shtml

Family jumped out of train to avoid gang rape. Good that train was only travelling 30 kph becsuse of elephants.

Does crushing NGOs help stop these? In Europe NGOs are now crucial to help with refugee crisis and to help newcomers settle. This helps to stop crimes and rapes by refugees.

@jouni presenting finland for you...

Ask that women who got raped in finland in a train why she didnt jump out of the train.. May be the train was only traveling at 320 Km/hr because of just 9 rapists and a woman inside.

 

[jouni]

defenceforumindia.com/forum/threads/modis-crush-western-ngo-campaign-begins.61433/page-27#post-1080915



@jouni presenting finland for you...

Ask that women who got raped in finland in a train why she didnt jump out of the train.. May be the train was only traveling at 320 Km/hr because of just 9 rapists and a woman inside.

http://www.uusisuomi.fi/kotimaa/83509-tapanilan-raiskaus-nyt-tuli-tuomio

The rape was actually "fingering" 2 were freed and 3 got suspended sentence. The train goes 160 kph, difficult to jump...

 

[angeldude13]

Finland is nothing but a Rape infested sh8thole.......

 

[apple]

Congratulations @jouni, you've gotten your own fan thread. I'm some what jealous.

Quite what Finland has to do with Indian defence matters, I don't know. But, predict this thread will generate some traffic.

Finland: Ongoing Immigrant Rape Fiasco
MV Lehti

Keep following Mitä Vittua Lehti, Sorceror. You'll get lots of juicy stories from there.

 

[Mad Indian]

Congratulations @jouni, you've gotten your own fan thread. I'm some what jealous.

Troll enough like that moron and you will get your own Australian thread . its that simple

 

[jouni]

http://finlandtoday.fi/hunderds-gat...ss-world-record-in-nude-swimming-in-helsinki/

http://www.kaljakellunta.org/en/

 

[rock127]

While in Finland...

Finland abstains from vote on EU refugee deal; relocation plan still approved

The Czech Republic, Slovakia, Romania and Hungary reportedly voted against the measure proposed by the European Commission. Finland was the only member to abstain. Poland, which previously opposed the proposal voted in favour of the relocation plan.

EU quota plan forced through against eastern European states' wishes

In a highly divisive move that risks splitting the continent, Jean-Claude Juncker’s quota scheme was approved by interior ministers despite the objections of the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Romania and Hungary, the Czech interior minister said on Twitter. Finland abstained.

 

[jouni]

From refugee in Finland to Presidential@ candidate....

 

[rock127]

Finland is nothing but a Rape infested sh8thole.......

Right now Sweden is officially the Rape Capital of the West but Finland is catching up(10th place now) and sooner or later... Germany would be #1.

Sweden: Rape Capital of the West

 

[sorcerer]

Troll enough like that moron and you will get your own Australian thread . its that simple

30 characters of poop

 

[apple]

Finland's Wartsila sacks India unit employees over irregularities
MUMBAI

Finnish industrial engine maker Wartsila(WRT1V.HE) said on Tuesday that it had sacked an unspecified number of employees at its Indian unit, after a probe into financial and governance irregularities found "violations and business misconduct".

Wartsila did not comment on the number of employees involved, the precise location or on the nature of the irregularities.

Kimmo Kohtamäki, managing director for Wärtsilä India, said the financial impact would not be material to the broader group.

Wärtsilä has 1100 employees in India, where it builds and maintains power plants, as well as engines to supply India's navy and coast guard, floating cranes and offshore rigs.

(Reporting by Karen Rebelo in MUMBAI and Jussi Rosendahl in HELSINKI; Editing by Clara Ferreira Marques)

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http://in.reuters.com/article/2015/09/08/wartsila-india-idINKCN0R80WC20150908
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Stupid Finns, how can those savages in that "rape infested sh8thole" not understand advanced cultural concepts like baksheesh and workplace theft. It's racist and culturally imperialist to sack hard working Indians for practising their own culture. This is what happens when countries become an American lapdog controlled by Jews.

 

[Mad Indian]

Stupid Finns, how can those savages in that "rape infested sh8thole" not understand advanced cultural concepts like baksheesh and workplace theft. It's racist and culturally imperialist to sack hard working Indians for practising their own culture. This is what happens when countries become an American lapdog controlled by Jews.

Yes, how racist indeed. Its not like workplace theft does not occur in American lapdog ponds of Australis or Finland now is it ?

 

[sorcerer]

Taxpayers foot bill for MPs to travel the world, write poetry and take selfies
EXCLUSIVE Miles GodfreyState Political ReporterThe Daily Telegraph
Piccoli defends Finland trip

NSW politicians are coming under scrutiny for how they use the state’s lavish “study tour” system after it emerged some have been padding out reports from their expensive overseas trips with poems, travel brochures, photos of themselves and pages in foreign languages.

Politicians from both sides are able to enjoy tours of Europe, the US, Asia and Middle East under the Commonwealth Parliamentary Study Tour regimen, which has been scrapped at the federal level but continues to cost NSW taxpayers $125,000 a year.

Some of the trips being taken by state politicians appear to offer little value for money and some members are clearly padding out formal reports about their trips with irrelevant material.

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  Former Penrith MP MP Karyn Paluzzano.
  
  
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  Former Nationals MLC Jenny Gardiner.
  
  
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An examination of study tour reports in the Parliamentary Library found many are filed late, including one that was almost three years overdue.

Labor is backing a review of the generous study tour system, with Opposition Leader Luke Foley saying: “While properly administered study tours are beneficial to the development of public policy, members of parliament have a responsibility to demonstrate their benefit and value for money to the taxpayer.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/ta...and-take-selfies/story-fnii5s3y-1227500377057
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scandal
ˈskand(ə)l/
noun
noun: scandal; plural noun: scandals
an action or event regarded as morally or legally wrong and causing general public outrage.

 

[sorcerer]

Our proud fin brings in the football team in many posts..

To the fin of this forum with blah

Scandals Shake Up Finnish Football

Good news. Finnish media is for once interested in Finnish fooball. Unfortunately from the football fans perspective for all the wrong reasons. Media is zooming on it only because undoubtadly the biggest scandal of all times is shaking up the very foundations of Finnish football. There are not many happy news to tell about the situation; players are being accused, interrogated, jailed and rumours say that this is only the top of the ice-berg. Understandably this isn’t very good PR and it affects directly or indirectly to each and every party in Finnish football. Especially the clubs will have even tougher times to convince sponsors to support their cause. And that means tighter times for the players and staff members of the clubs. Even the football fans will definitely hear about it from the fellow ice-hockey supporters for years to come.

And when you add on top of all that the existing economical problems of Finnish football clubs we have indeed a very interesting Veikkausliiga season coming up.

The brief summary of what has happened

Three weeks ago the police captured a man from Singaporean origins trying to get out of the country with false identification. Soon they discovered that it wasnt his only offence. It is still under a veil of mystery for how long did this Singaporean “businessman” operate in Finland. Maybe it was only last year, but probably this has gone on for much longer. 2009? 2008? That we don’t know yet. In any case it seems that the captured Singaporean is just a low-level handyman of some larger match fixing & money laundrying syndicate.

Also we do not know yet in how many countries these people have been operating in, but Finland seems to have been an ideal place to practise match fixing. Take Rovaniemi, for example;

Currently nine players (now ex-players) from Rovaniemen Palloseura (RoPS) are suspected in taking part in fixing ten (10) different matches last season. Many of the players originate from Zambian academy which is (was) run by the former star player Zeddy Saileti and two non-Zambians are from Georgia. RoPS’s team roster has always had lots of Zambian players which has made RoPS an easy target for match fixers. Nobody really could have thought of anything like this happening, but when you think of it now; having a big group of players of same nationality who are relatively low paid is like asking for trouble. RoPS as a club had nothing to do with this directly, which is a piece of good news among the cloud of bad ones.

Two other Zambian players who played for AC Oulu last year were released on bail after their admitted accepting 50 000€ as a payment to ensure Ac Oulu’s big numbered loss against TPS from Turku in the last rounds of 2010 season. Also couple other players were rumoured to be involved and one of them is an ex-RoPS and ex-VPS goalkeeper whose Korean agent has been cooperating also with our agency regarding the player’s career moves. But as it looks like, according to the police, the match fixing cancer has spread to Finnish football through RoPS’s Zambian players who worked with the Singaporean convincing other players to join in, we have no reason to believe that the goalkeeper’s agent has anything to do with this.

Media frenzy

And if this wasn’t enough; earlier the news came out on Urheilulehti that Tampere United‘s management had taken approximately 300 000€ sponsorship money from the very same Singaporean business man. According to Finnish sports magazine Urheilulehti Tampere United had two players with a very peculiar football background playing in their League Cup’s matches earlier who assumeably came from the same sources as the money. Tampere United being in a very tight economical situation the money must have been like a god’s gift at that point, but now its looking like its turning into a poison in their hands. Without the money Tampere United would possibly not have been eligible to obtain a Veikkausliiga license and now the debate goes whether also Tampere should be kicked out.

Naturally all of this has given good grounds for people from various backgrounds (media, clubs, fans, FA leaders & board members, Veikkausliiga leaders & board members, etc) to throw ideas (some bad, some even worse) into the air to prevent this happening from again. In media there has been lots of accusations towards the clubs where these players are from; RoPS has been threated to be forced out of the Veikkausliiga and AC Oulu is already facing a ban from the league due to their bad financial situation at the time of applying for the license. A choir of people with fast typing fingers are spamming the newspapers, forums and blogs to banish Tampere United, AC Oulu and RoPS from the face of the earth.

If all or even one of the bans become a reality before the season begins this May it conveniently fits the plans of Finnish FA to reduce the amount of teams from the three top leagues. A plan that has been critisized massively by the clubs on all levels mostly because the decision was never discussed with the clubs and put into operation in the middle of secrecy. The FA and Veikkausliiga’s management have all been very quiet about the scandalous events lately just reciting the police whom we all know are not exactly the best people what comes to communication towards the public.

The real reasons behind?

The FA used the financial burden and tough economical situation in many of the clubs as a reason to back up their plans to reduce the number of teams. The FA’s solution to the problem is too easy and too short sighted; let the big clubs from big cities compete against each other as they already have enough money and resources to not struggle and cause nasty headlines in the newspapers and lets kick out the rest rather than really start developing the football on all levels of the game all over in Finland; in smaller cities and teams too.

Now they are getting some grounds and proof to their dubious plan and perhaps this is the reason why the FA and Veikkausliiga are quiet? Or are they just in a state of shock that they can’t come out with any reasonable thing to say? Maybe they are just too bureaucratic, old-fashioned and rigid to react to this kind of unexpexted chaos. According to some online media in the Asia the Singapore based agency is widely suspected of fixing matches and they offer money to the FAs to take part as told by Today Online. And as Finnish FA already had a pre-contract with an Singaporean company organizing friendly matches it does give a good reason why they have been so silent about Tampere United’s 300 000€. Perhaps they had their own nest to clean first?

Whatever the reason is they are right about one thing; the bad financial situation in clubs is the major reason behind the match fixing scandal. But the solution is not to wipe the trash under the carpet and throw out all the ill-managed clubs from the league and play just with the few rich ones or to concentrate on blaming some single player, group of players, the Singaporean business man or some badly run club.

Off-balanced


Having a good balance sheet is based on two words; income and outcome, ins and outs. But how low can you go in expenses even if you were the master of cutting costs? The more you tighten your belt, the more room you give for unwanted phenomeneons; such as match fixing. And still your balance sheet doesn’t look good. The other part is missing. In Finnish football the “ins” are outnumbered by the “outs”.

Obviously the solution for that is up-to-date communication, marketing and sales. Easier said than done. The scandal makes it even more difficult for the clubs to increase their revenue, but what really makes it harder is that they do not get much support from the governing bodies of Finnish football. The people in charge of these organizations as well as in many of the clubs come from the times when clubs got their money from local big industries and their owners who really didn’t expect much in return. It was more like this; “Let the boys play ball. Here is 100k.” Those were the times when spectators didn’t really matter as they came to the matches anyway. Give them few makkaras and they were happy. There wasn’t so much competition for people’s attention during those times.

That was 40 years ago and it feels like the people responsible for communication, marketing and sales are still lacking behind by years if not decades. The spectators are more demanding and sponsors want more value for their investments. People need to be reached, their attention needs to be won over and their needs need to be fulfilled. Customer loyalty, or in this case winning over the hearts of your local people, is the most trusted revenue flow a sport club can have. Sponsors come and go, but true fans never leave you. And here is a thought; make sponsors your fans too!

Need for new brains

Today potential revenue models of sport clubs have evolved from having a grill kiosk in the center of the village into having an electronic bonus card system that you can use in the club’s own webshop which is linked into image tagging technology to spread the club’s webshop around the Internet. What kind of support can you imagine to get for modern day sports & event marketing from people who are still stuck with the principles of the 60’s? Veikkausliiga has own website, but try googling “jalkapallo” or “finnish football” to see whether those search words take you to the webpages of the Finnish football flagship league? Small example, but explains a lot.

Sports and event marketing is a subject that can be studied for example in the University of Liverpool under “Football Industries” -program. How many people we have in Finnish football management in general that have actually studied the subject in school? It takes more than an ex-player to take over the sport director’s role and more than a local businessman to take care of all the other things in order to change the “80%/20%”. For those are the figures that explain how the income is divided on Finnish Veikkausliiga team’s balance sheet between the money coming from the sponsors and money coming from the match day events. The proportions have not changed, but in recent years the amount of money has diminished in both categories. The match days should be one of the most important revenue flow for the teams, but now it isnt even close to that. And if there are only 12-14 home games per season, then how can they even be important to people? Especially if the fixtures are scheduled so that there can be even 3-4 week gaps between home games.

Monopoly is a great game – You can’t lose

At the football association and league level the sponsor market is pretty much dead. One sponsor has been supporting Finnish football for over 70 years – Finnish betting company Veikkaus Oy which has by law a monopoly to Finnish betting market. It is a remarkable story of eternal friendship between two organizations, but if you look at the sums that Veikkaus gives to Veikkausliiga, it really makes you wonder whether they could get 10 times more from somewhere else. Like from other betting companies? Veikkaus has been giving Finnish football and especially Veikkausliiga between 1 to 2 million euros annually during the last 10 years. That is not a big sum to pay for the visibility they get. But if you have a government supported monopoly behind you who is there to complain? These start to sound like stories from countries far, far away…

This Veikkaus-monopoly issue is an important question especially now when the betting companies turn into broadcasters. Veikkausliiga and the FA sold all the TV-rights to a Swedish company in 2009 for sum that at that time was considered big. Everybody were quite excited. However most of the money has never reached the clubs and in some cases the TV-broadcastings have forced the clubs to play matches on Monday evenings, which has inflicted serious losses to the home team due to loss of spectators compared to Saturday/Sunday fixture. And when you have only 13 home games per season it counts something. The number of viewers per match on pay-tv has been a huge disappointment which does not spread the word around either and thus bring new fans on the stands.

It is excellent that there is at least one interested company to cover Finnish football in TV, but has really everything been done to ensure that also Finnish football comes out as a winner from this?

April to October all night long

Its hard to say whether anybody in the governing bodies of Finnish football have ever thought that our league system’s summer time fixtures could actually be a huge advantage. Now we hear lots of comments that we must improve our facilities so that we could change to the so-called European schedule. Another typical comment is that why to play in the summer when everybody is in their summer cottages. Even more typical counter-comment for the system we have now is “Why change since we have always played like this?”. It feels like that nobody really touches the right issues.

Online betting companies buy rights to stream games of different leagues on their website. And as Baltic and Nordic leagues are the only European leagues that run during the summer months in Europea the interest of different betting companies could be relatively big at first and according to the success it could even grow. Russian and other ex-Soviet countries’ leagues are now adapting to the European system which then leaves even bigger opportunity for Nordic countries to gain more fans, viewers and sponsors overseas.

Not to mention that summer schedule also works as a way to attract good, experienced players who are left without a contract in the January transfer window and also as an opportunity for big clubs to send young prospects on loan for summer.

Lesson to be learned

So we have a scandal at hands and everybody is looking for the guilty ones. Clubs are already turning down offers for good players because they are foreigners. Horrible, but even more horrible would be to have the right extremist party taking an advantage of the situation and blaming it all on dishonest foreigners who come here to steal our women, parking lots and queue numbers in the banks.

It is true that badly run clubs with limited resources are more prone to be victims of such scams than clubs that can pay well for their players. Its good to come out straightforward and honest about those many things that could have been done better to avoid the situation, but still who would have guessed something as massive as this? More important than waving red cards to right and left, would be to look a bit further down the road, learn from the mistakes and start again a bit wiser. A good guideline for a brand new day of Finnish football could be:

Win the hearts of the people and you win the game.


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Fins are not bad in scandal at all!!!! :cheers:

 

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Sun kannattaa skarpata vähän @jouni. I'm starting to get more abuse than you on your own personal fan thread. You've got to lift your game.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/ta...and-take-selfies/story-fnii5s3y-1227500377057

If I cared about, or even thought about the existance of, New South Wales state parliament, I'd thank you for your link.

Although, I already presumed that all Australian politicians are quite creative about claiming expenses.

And your stories from the Herald Sun, Australia's most low-brow, scandalous tabloid with a history of being like an Australian politican claiming travelling expenses when it comes to the truth.

Also noticed that The Herald Sun's (a pro Liberal party publication) investigation which uncovered "politicans from both sides" only names, and attempts to shame, Labor and National party politicans, which makes me doubt the whole story.

But well done, Sorceror, your google search for; Australia + scandal + Finland did get somewhat of a result.

Our proud fin brings in the football team in many posts..

To the fin of this forum with blah
http://www.topspot.fi/?p=694
http://www.topspot.fi/?p=694

Fins are not bad in scandal at all!!!! :cheers:

This doesn't represent your google-fu so well.

When I started reading the story, was about to reply that it's a ridiculous story and that this wasn't the greatest ever scandal in FInnish football. Rather, the spot fixing scandal of a few years back was. Then I realised your story was from 2011.

Even if you'd read your own story a bit, you'd realise this scandal had little to do with Finland and if you knew your football you'd know that at that particularly time, circa. ~2010, Asian syndicates were influencing football games around the world. The corrupt players, in FInland, were Ghanian and If you'd bothered to scroll down, or go to page 2 of your google search, you'd find that the match fixer Wilson Raj Perumal had been arrested and spent several years in gaol in Finland.

Indian's really shouldn't lecture anyone on corruption in politics or sport.

So Sorceror, I'll give you a C) for effort, but it's an E) for effect.

Actually it is a E-, as I really couldn't care less about this kind of ridiculous thread. So, I'll stop contributing to it and let Jouni bask in the love of you all.

I would say, was a bit surprised that I found the story about Wärtsilä India as they are involved in the Indian defence industry and I hadn' t seen any stories here about those guys getting fired.

If I was an Indian and I was reading this thread, think I be quite interested in that story about guys involved in producing Indian Navy and Coast Guard warships being sacked for "Irregularities" and would be more concerned about finding out if they'd be prosecuted, and what they actually did, than wasting my time on google finding stories on foreign countries state level politicians, and 5 year old betting scandals.

But yes, have fun Jouni, I've signed off on this thread.