Tony Blair: ‘There is a problem within Islam’

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  1. roma

    roma NRI in Europe Senior Member

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    Blair warns of 'profound, dangerous' Islamist threat - The Times of India

    Blair warns of 'profound, dangerous' Islamist threat
    AFP | Jun 2, 2013, 11.20 PM IST

    LONDON: Former British prime minister Tony Blair warned Sunday that the Islamist ideology allegedly behind the murder of a British soldier in a London street was "profound and dangerous".

    Blair, now an international Middle East peace envoy, said it was time to admit the breadth of a "strain within Islam" harbouring views incompatible with free societies.

    Blair, a Roman Catholic who says he reads the Koran daily, said most Muslims in Britain would be horrified at the murder of Lee Rigby on May 22.

    "There is not a problem with Islam," he wrote in The Mail on Sunday newspaper.

    "There is a problem within Islam — from the adherents of an ideology which is a strain within Islam. And we have to put it on the table and be honest about it.

    "I am afraid this strain is not the province of a few extremists. It has at its heart a view about religion and about the interaction between religion and politics that is not compatible with pluralistic, liberal, open-minded societies.

    "At the extreme end of the spectrum are terrorists, but the world view goes deeper and wider than it is comfortable for us to admit. So by and large we don't admit it."

    He said that made Islamic extremists think "we are weak", which in turn makes those within Islam who want to tackle the issue "lose heart".

    The former Labour Party leader said revolutionary communism was resisted by being resolute on security, "but we defeated it by a better idea: freedom. We can do the same on this.

    "The better idea is a modern view of religion and its place in society and politics.

    "Religion must have a voice in the political system but not govern it."

    Blair suggested that the "problem within Islam" could start to be tackled by "educating children about faith".

    Two men charged with murdering Rigby are due to appear in separate London court hearings on Monday.

    Michael Adebolajo, 28, who has also been charged with the attempted murder of two police officers and possession of a firearm, was to appear before Westminster Magistrates' Court.

    Michael Adebowale, 22, also charged with possessing a firearm, was due to appear for a bail application at the Old Bailey central criminal court, ahead of a pre-trial hearing on June 28.

    Both Muslim converts of Nigerian descent, they were shot by police at the scene of the killing near Rigby's barracks in Woolwich, southeast London.

    An inquest into Rigby's death heard that he was run over by a car before being attacked by two men armed with a cleaver and a knife.

    Adebowale made his first court appearance on Thursday, speaking only to confirm his name and address before being taken back into custody.

    The murder is the first fatal Islamist attack in Britain since suicide bombers killed 52 people in the London transport network in 2005.
     
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  3. A chauhan

    A chauhan "अहिंसा परमो धर्मः धर्म हिंसा तथैव च: l" Senior Member

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    Now Blair's life is in risk btw he is a daring person.
     
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    MAYURA New Member

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    No it is not as many in britain believe him to be british avatar of Mulayam Singh.
     
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    TrueSpirit Senior Member Senior Member

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    Is it ? So, is he uttering these statements because he does not have to contest in elections anymore ? What Mulayam-ish actions he took during his premiership ?
    Would you like to share ?
     
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    Islam and intimidation go together like duck takes to water.

    There is no room for debate about the faith among its followers.
    Because anyone who questions the faith is automatically targeted for intimidation and violence.

    Heck, we are talking about a religion that does not even give its followers the choice to believe or not to believe or to walk away from it.
    That's like the Mafia.....once you join you can never leave it because if you do - they kill you.

    People want to be politically correct and not offend the Muslim population, but that is seen as weakness by muslim.
    This "strain" that Blair is talking about is far bigger than anyone want to admit. Its much more mainstream not just a bunch of terrorists.
     
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    Cant' be described better than that. You are bang on target mate :thumb:
     
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    Tony Blair is the person who is supporter of multiculturalism and it was during his rule that muslim groups infiltrated british media and academia.

    When they demanded halal meat, they were served and when they rallied against Blair himself, they were lionised by media pet to Blair. He is the man who silenced any criticism in party about increased muslim danger to britain.

    Even now, he is just saying that islam is not problem but its " wrong interpretation" is such.

    If you read some posts on internet by the british, you will know how angry they are with this man. His party always got 5 percent muslim vote just like Congress gets in our country.
     
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    Keshav Murali Back to studies :( Senior Member

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    Profound understatement by Tony Blair.
     
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    Ok, I got it. Probably, he was more than enthusiastic supporter of multiculturalism in Britain for Vote-bank consolidation.

    And, he we also a bigger US stooge than other UK premiers. Anyway, throughput its history, labour party has been known to propound the cause of multiculturalism in Britain. Anyway,m as time passes, we would get more clarity on the success or failure of multiculturalism-experiment underway in UK. From what we keep hearing, it has already failed big time.

    Personally, I am a follower of "Melting Pot" concept: French system of allowing all immigrant cultures to continue flourishing as long as these immigrants keep their French nationhood, identity, values (Liberty, equality, fraternity), laws & customs above all other original identities, in the interest on national integration & territorial consolidation. Indians have needed this integration throughout history.

    "Salad Bowl” concept: British system of acknowledging the immigrant cultures' right for co-existence within British constitutional framework, with no effort or impetus towards any larger integration with the British identity has already started showing its effects on British streets.
     
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    Somewhere down the line, it is going to be a very interesting and explosive situation in UK, Belgium, Netherlands, France, and other European countries hosting large amounts of Muslim immigrants. As of yet, the Muslim immigrants seem to have been pushing their own Islamist agenda with below average level of wanting to assimilate into their host European countries. Thanks to the liberal and multi-cultural advocates, they have been able to get away with it thus far. If this continues, there will be a head on collision as the host nation's indigenous populations run out of patience and retaliate.
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    There is also a problem called Blair!

    A weasel of a character!

    He will do and say anything to be in the limelight and how to make money out of it!
     
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    There is not a problem with Islam," he wrote in The Mail on Sunday newspaper.



    True, there is no problem with Islam but there is probelm with paki and their thakedari of Islam, which is creating trouble
     
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