Thousands flee violence in India's Assam

pmaitra

Senior Member
Joined
Mar 10, 2009
Messages
33,262
Likes
19,594
The problem is not Indigenous Muslims of Assam.

The problem is the imported Razaakars of Bangladesh that the Congress Party invited and is still inviting to enter and flush Assam!
Exactly.

They are not Bengalis - even Bangladesh does not give citizenship and other rights to those stranded inside Bangladesh. These people have been concentrated inside Geneva Camps.
 

KS

Bye bye DFI
Senior Member
Joined
Aug 3, 2010
Messages
8,005
Likes
5,758
Your target of blame is misplaced.

Every political party has tried to issue ration cards for votes to different foreign squatters - every one of them, who are here in these border states.

This includes the 'sickulars' and the 'holier-than-thou' BJP.

Blame the politicians.
BJP....?!? Giving voter ids to Muslim bangladeshis ? Ok.


Tarun Gogoi could speak the truth for a change.
So there are no Bangladeshis in Assam, according to you ? Dont go on the semantic path of "They are razakars, not accepted technically as Bangladeshis."..

If they are not Indian - which they are not - they are illegal here...FULL STOP. And as such no sympathy for those schmucks.
 

KS

Bye bye DFI
Senior Member
Joined
Aug 3, 2010
Messages
8,005
Likes
5,758
And what are the real sons of the soil the Indian Muslims doing about it? Aren't they protecting their religious brothers in this act?
Who is protecting the Rohingyas who are also illegal in the capital of India ??

I heard its an NGO run by an Indian Muslim MLA.

Dont get fooled by the rhetoric - if it comes between Islam and country there are many who will choose Islam over country. This land holds no special significance to them. Their holy lands are in Palestine and Saudi.
 

KS

Bye bye DFI
Senior Member
Joined
Aug 3, 2010
Messages
8,005
Likes
5,758
Did I say that? Read my post properly.
I know what you meant...Hindu Bangladeshis who came to India are not Bangladeshis. They are Indians. Two Nation Theory for you.

All Hindus in South Asia when they migrate to India become Indians.
 

pmaitra

Senior Member
Joined
Mar 10, 2009
Messages
33,262
Likes
19,594
I know what you meant...Hindu Bangladeshis who came to India are not Bangladeshis. They are Indians. Two Nation Theory for you.
No, you don't know what I meant.

I am talking about Gurkhas (from Nepal not India), who were squatting in Bhutan, and were kicked out of Bhutan by the Bhutanese Army, who then came to India. Do you know how they got Indian ration-cards?

Hint: Jaswant Singh
 

ani82v

Senior Member
Joined
Jul 6, 2012
Messages
1,006
Likes
707
Country flag
Your target of blame is misplaced.

Every political party has tried to issue ration cards for votes to different foreign squatters - every one of them, who are here in these border states.

This includes the 'sickulars' and the 'holier-than-thou' BJP.
....
Kuch bhi..
 

Galaxy

Senior Member
Joined
Aug 27, 2011
Messages
7,086
Likes
3,934
Country flag
Who is protecting the Rohingyas who are also illegal in the capital of India ??

I heard its an NGO run by an Indian Muslim MLA.

Dont get fooled by the rhetoric - if it comes between Islam and country there are many who will choose Islam over country. This land holds no special significance to them. Their holy lands are in Palestine and Saudi.
Indian Muslims have time to raise the issue of Palestine or Rohingyas Muslims of Burma but no time to protest against Bangladeshi Muslims.

Whether you support Congress or BJP or Left, There should be a limit which one should never cross. In 10 years times, A Bangladeshi would be Chief Minister of Assam. Already second largest party. This is a very big threat.
 

Ray

The Chairman
Professional
Joined
Apr 17, 2009
Messages
43,132
Likes
23,835
Resolution on the Situation in Assam and North-East passed in BJP National Executive Meeting at Guwahati (Assam)

Assam and other States of the North-East have a unique geopolitical situation as it is surrounded by five countries, Bhutan, Nepal, China, Myanmar and Bangladesh. The entire North-East is a land of immense beauty, diversity and extra-ordinary potential. It represents some of the finest attributes of our rich and diverse cultural and civilisational heritage. The people of North-East, proud Indians; are embodiment of this rich heritage. Yet, it is ironic and tragic that the entire North-East in varying measures, is today afflicted with the scourge of corruption, extremism, terrorism, mal-governance and infiltration from across the border, aided and abated by rank vote bank politics of the Congress which is in power in most of the States of North-East. All this has heightened the misery of the people. The bigger irony is that all this is happening when the Prime Minister of India Dr. Manmohan Singh is a Member of Parliament (Rajya Sabha) from the North-East, representing the state of Assam. The BJP has consciously decided to have a special resolution on the disturbing and alarming situation in the North-East not only to focus upon its problems but also to reiterate its pledge that it stands by the people of Assam and the North-East and would do everything possible to ensure a better condition for them.

Infiltration from Bangladesh

The rampant infiltration from Bangladesh into Assam, various parts of North-East and many other parts of India including Delhi has today acquired alarming proportion. In fact the flow of immigrants to Assam, in particular has reached dangerous proportions. Census statistics bear testimony to this dangerous trend. In 1991 there were 1.18 crores voters in Assam. This increased to 1.44 crores in 2001 and 1.79 crores in 2010 a rise of 61 lacs in two decades. Out of 126 Assembly Constituencies in the State 82 recorded over 7% growth per annum in the number of voters between 2004 (Lok Sabha Elections) and 2006 (Vidhan Sabha Elections). This may be contrasted with the figure of 1.67% growth per annum in all India voters between 1999 and 2004. Out of these 82 Assembly constituencies, 18 recorded over 10% annual growth with Dhekiajuli recording a highest growth rate of 22.5% per annum. The rampant infiltration is not only changing demography but also seriously impacting the polity of the country. If such a dangerous situation is not controlled then who knows in not too distant a future there is every apprehension of an infiltrator becoming the Chief Minister of Assam.

There is substantial evidence available to suggest that the Congress Party has deliberately turned a blind eye to this danger in spite of repeated warning from responsible quarters and even sought to undo directions of the Supreme Court in this connection. In fact the notorious IMDT Act (Illegal Migrants Determination by Tribunals Act) 1983 was brought by the Congress Government which made it impossible for citizens who are residents in Assam to secure the detection and deportation of foreigners/ illegal immigrants. The Act enacted with the professed aim of detecting and deporting infiltrators, in fact, became an instrument to perpetuate their stay in Assam. Under the Foreigners Act 1946, applicable to the entire country; the onus was on the illegal immigrants to prove that he was an Indian citizen, whereas, under the IMDT the responsibility was on the complainant to prove the same. This discriminatory law, which proved to be completely ineffective in detection and deportation of infiltrators, was challenged before the Supreme Court. During the course of hearing, when the NDA was in power it took a very clear stand that the application of the IMDT Act to the State of Assam alone is clearly discriminatory and the Government is considering to repeal it. However, when the NDA Government went out of power in May 2004, the UPA Government headed by Congress filed another affidavit before the Supreme Court stating that the Central Government has reconsidered the matter and taken a decision to retain the IMDT Act in present form in its application to the State of Assam. This showed the clear intention of Congress that it did not want to take any action against the infiltrators.

The Supreme Court examined the entire matter in detail including the historical background, the report of the then Governor, Assam about the dangerous implications of rampant infiltration and concluded that "There can be no manner of doubt that the State of Assam is facing external aggression and internal disturbance on account of large scale illegal migration of Bangladeshi nationals and it becomes the duty of the Union of India to take all measures for protection of the State of Assam because it poses a threat to the integrity and security of the North-Eastern region". The Apex Court, accordingly, by its Judgement of 22 July 2005 declared the IMDT as un constitutional and directed that all cases of illegal migrants shall now be decided in the manner provided in the Foreigners Act, as well as, the procedure prescribed under the Foreigners (Tribunals) Orders 1964.

It is indeed shocking that instead of obeying the mandate of the said judgement, the UPA Government headed by the Congress sought to nullify the direction in the said judgement. It amended the Foreigners (Tribunals) Orders 1964 and by a notification of 2006 held that Foreigners Act in effect shall not apply to the State of Assam. This meant that no action could be taken against the illegal immigrants. The Supreme Court, in the second round of litigation by its judgement of Dec 5, 2006 held that "the amendment by 2006 order has been issued just as a cover up for non-implementation of the earlier direction of this Court". The Court observed "that we have to lament once again that there is a lack of will in the matter of ensuring that illegal immigrants are sent out of the country. The Court quashed the 2006 order and directed the Union and State Government to forthwith implement the earlier direction of this Court to detect and deport the illegal immigrants under the Foreigners Act.

It is the Charge of BJP that purely for a vote bank politics the Congress Government in Assam duly aided by the present Central Government has a vested interest in promoting infiltration. Because of continuing infiltration, the indigenous Asssames people are losing control of their land while illegal Bangladeshis have embarked on a large scale land grab policy of Satra land, forest land, grazing land and even Tribal land. The Char land that is the sand island created with the changing course of river has also been settled with the family of illegal migrants in big areas by the State Government by giving them Pattas. These illegal immigrants are also contributing, assisting and fomenting the spread of terror, extremism and separatism, which seriously impinges on the security and integrity of India. They are also seriously encroaching upon the employment opportunities of the native people of Assam, North-East and in other parts of the country wherever they are going.

The BJP makes it very clear that all those native and indigenous Muslims who are traditionally born and brought up in Assam since generations are not infiltrators and are entitled to all the respect and rights due to an Indian citizen. At the same time it should also be made very clear that Hindus who are forced to come to India because of persecution and discrimination in Bangladesh only because they are in minority; cannot be called infiltrators. They are in fact displaced persons who are entitled to shelter in India. They must be given the rights of citizens and must allowed to settle in India which is an obligation of Governments.

The BJP National Executive makes the following demands:

i) Prompt steps be taken to detect and deport all the illegal immigrants from Assam and other parts of North-East under the provisions of the Foreigners Act in a time bound manner as directed repeatedly by the Supreme Court.

ii) The Election Commission must ensure the deletion of the names of illegal infiltrators from the voter list as demanded by the BJP through a memorandum submitted recently. In accordance with the Constitution only citizens can vote and the directions of the Supreme Court is equally binding on the Election Commission.

iii) There should be proper border fencing on our international borders in the North-East with different countries including Bangladesh. On the western border such fencing has been done. There must be special security monitoring at the river end passing through both the countries.

iv) In view of the sensitive and critical situation in Assam and North-East because of rampant infiltration; compulsory registration of every citizen, issue of national identity card and maintenance of National Register of citizens as required under Section 14-A of the Citizenship Act 1955 must be undertaken on a priority basis in these areas.

Rampant Corruption in North-East under Congress regime

Almost the entire North-East most of which is ruled by Congress or, Congress led Governments is today plagued with massive corruption, loot of public money with blatant political patronage and rampant deprivation of the benefits meant for the poor under privileged and people below the poverty line. A disturbing nexus of politicians including Ministers in the Government, bureaucrats, contractors and suppliers has conspired to undertake a systematic loot of public money including grants from the Government of India. There is widespread nexus between corruption and loot of development funds between ruling establishment and the militants. The BJP will bring out a comprehensive booklet exposing this massive corruption. It also proposes to submit a memorandum to the Hon'ble President of India in this connection. However, some of the instances of these corruptions are being highlighted below to demonstrate the enormity of these scams which have acquired monumental proportion:

"¢ The NC Hill scam in Assam, manipulation of transport subsidy, irrigation scam has ruined Assam. The National Investigation Agency (NIA) unearthed a scam of around Rs. 1000 crores in the North Kachar Hills Autonomous District Council. Many Ministers and several bureaucrats have been identified by NIA as the beneficiaries of the scam. A huge amount of Rs. 13.45 crores in cash was recovered by the CBI from the House of scamsters.

"¢ Around one crore people in Assam have been declared as below poverty line (BPL). It is alleged that nearly 50% of rice meant for these BPL families amounting to Rs. 1000 crores goes straight to black market. There is serious leakage, corruption and manipulation in the Public Distribution System (PDS) in Assam.

"¢ Arunachal Pradesh witnessed the country's biggest PDS scandal where the former Congress Chief Minister Gegong Apang along with around 100 ruling party leaders and officials were found involved in black marketing of ration/PDS food grains in this Rs. 1000 crores fraud the former Chief Minister was arrested by the Special Investigation Cell constituted by the Guwahati High Court.

"¢ In Manipur, there is huge loot to the extent of Rs. 244 crores in the name of cleaning the Loktak Lake. The lake clean up project sponsored and funded by the Government of India, money is going down the drain. The firm to whom the contract was awarded was found to be dubious and it was linked to some alleged relations of the Chief Minister of Manipur.

"¢ The SGRY Scam and the Hydropower allotment scam of Arunachal Pradesh are almost similar to the notorious 2G spectrum scam.

"¢ There are scams in implementation of projects under the Jawaharlal Nehru Urban Renewal Mission, food control and distribution, drinking water, construction of dams and even in recruitments.

"¢ Mining allotment has become a major source of corruption in North-East.

The BJP is committed to undertake a massive crusade against this operation loot of public money meant for the poor and the needy. This massive corruption has only increased the poverty and backwardness of the North-eastern States. The CAG, the media and even the Courts have seriously commented upon the same. The BJP National Executive demands the following:

i) There must prompt investigation by the NIA, CBI and other agencies and all the accused must be prosecuted for which Special Fast Track Court be established.

ii) There must be special audit of all these scams.

iii) The property of all these scamsters including of the Minister involved as well as bureaucrats must be seized.

Strategic security in the North-East

The entire North-East has a very unique geopolitical situation as stated earlier. The North-East is also an import economy where the economic lifeline of any region could be throttled by any State or, non State actor with little effort. The overpowering expansionist design of China also keeps on recurring with alarming regularity particularly in regards to borders as well as a malicious claim over the State of Arunachal which is an would remain an integral part of India. River Brahmaputra is the lifeline of the North-East and the reported decision of China to construct a series of dams at the source of river Brahmaputra would have a serious impact on the economic and social life of the entire region. The Government of India must undertake a proper impact assessment study of these dams keeping the interest of North-East in mind. Insurgency, separatism and terrorism play their own part in creating a situation of uncertainty in the region. The overpowering influence of ISI sponsored Jehadi outfits in neighbouring Bangladesh having their own linkage and assistance to separatist group operating in the North-East continues to remain a serious threat. This has to be handled with a firm hand.

It is indeed curious that when the election to Assam assembly is so close, we are hearing again the reported effort of talk between a section of ULFA leaders and the Government. It is too well known in public domain that the Congress Party in Assam has taken overt and covert support of the ULFA elements to better its electoral prospects in the past. Naturally this has foreign policy implication as well. We understand that the Government of Bhutan is not very happy over these developments as upon the request of Government of India earlier, Bhutan has taken strong military action against ULFA elements who had taken shelter in the forest of Bhutan. The signal to Bangaladesh would also not be very happy because on the one hand India wants strong action to be taken against ULFA elements in Bangladesh and at the same time going for peace talk in an adhoc and non-transparent manner. What is the condition of release of some ULFA leaders is also not known. The BJP is very clear that any peace talk with ULFA must be held within the frame work of our constitution, on a long term sustained basis and in a transparent manner where violence and armed struggle has no place at all. Any election driven initiative of talk by Congress is deeply reprehensible.

Therefore, the security in the North-East needs to be seen not in mere policing terms but as a complex intersection of foreign affairs, military, internal and strategic security as also a meaningful resolution of economic issues. The NDA led by the BJP when it was in power at the Centre had established the Department of North-Eastern Affairs as also undertaken a whole range of other measures. The security interest is also equally important. A safe and secure North-East is vital for India. There has to be due coordination on the security issues in the entire North-East under the overall command and control of National Security Council. The Centre must take adequate steps to ensure this coordination in an appropriate manner.

Lastly, it is very important that both the Centre and State Government must ensure that the North-East which is more than 1600-2000 (appr) Km. away from Delhi and is still inaccessible in many areas must be given proper support for development of infrastructure and capacity building. It was during the NDA that the National Highway programme was also planned to be extended till the North-East but has almost been put in the cold storage. This is deeply regrettable.

Resolution on the Situation in Assam and North-East passed in BJP National Executive Meeting at Guwahati (Assam)
 

amitkriit

Senior Member
Joined
Jul 17, 2009
Messages
2,463
Likes
1,927
Your target of blame is misplaced.

Every political party has tried to issue ration cards for votes to different foreign squatters - every one of them, who are here in these border states.

This includes the 'sickulars' and the 'holier-than-thou' BJP.

Blame the politicians.
I will accept it on the day the Muslim organizations in India will start sharing our concern on Bangladeshi infiltration. In fact these Muslim organizations have become the biggest roadblock in identification and deportation of these illegals. They are assisting their co-religionists with body, heart, mind and soul. I can bet that they will cry HR violation and discrimination of the minority if ever any state dares to initiate such action. I know of a Muslim Politician from Bihar whose side business was import of Muslims from Bangladesh. Many people know about him. Same kind of conflicts took place in his constituency but were never reported because Hindus were on the receiving end, they were butchered, their land was grabbed by the settlers (Under Lalu's rule).
 

A chauhan

"अहिंसा परमो धर्मः धर्म हिंसा तथैव च: l"
Senior Member
Joined
Oct 10, 2009
Messages
9,513
Likes
22,526
Country flag
I remember we were declared RWE for expressing reasonable concerns over this issue sometimes back, and now see the outcome ! our fears had some strong basis and facts and so Assam is burning ! I wonder if some people open there eyes before it gets too late, don't get me wrong I meant 'voters'. :p
 

KS

Bye bye DFI
Senior Member
Joined
Aug 3, 2010
Messages
8,005
Likes
5,758
No, you don't know what I meant.

I am talking about Gurkhas (from Nepal not India), who were squatting in Bhutan, and were kicked out of Bhutan by the Bhutanese Army, who then came to India. Do you know how they got Indian ration-cards?

Hint: Jaswant Singh
And many of them serve in the Indian Army ready to spill blood for this country. No worries.

Same cant be said about the Bangladeshi Muslims who are a potential fifth column and a grave national security threat - such as this.
 

Ray

The Chairman
Professional
Joined
Apr 17, 2009
Messages
43,132
Likes
23,835
I could not find any Congress Resolution/ Stand on illegal immigrants.

I thought I could so that it was balanced and then the debate could ensue.

Anyone who can help?
 

pmaitra

Senior Member
Joined
Mar 10, 2009
Messages
33,262
Likes
19,594
I will accept it on the day the Muslim organizations in India will start sharing our concern on Bangladeshi infiltration. In fact these Muslim organizations have become the biggest roadblock in identification and deportation of these illegals. They are assisting their co-religionists with body, heart, mind and soul. I can bet that they will cry HR violation and discrimination of the minority if ever any state dares to initiate such action. I know of a Muslim Politician from Bihar whose side business was import of Muslims from Bangladesh. Many people know about him. Same kind of conflicts took place in his constituency but were never reported because Hindus were on the receiving end, they were butchered, their land was grabbed by the settlers (Under Lalu's rule).
All foreigners should be foreigners and should not have ration cards. They should not vote and should not have property rights.

If Hindu immigrants have to be given Indian citizenship, it must happen openly, through Parliamentary legislation, not clandestinely. Till that happens, stop blaming the 'sickulars' when even those blaming are themselves part of these illegal activities.

Pot-Kettle.
 

pmaitra

Senior Member
Joined
Mar 10, 2009
Messages
33,262
Likes
19,594
And many of them serve in the Indian Army ready to spill blood for this country. No worries.

Same cant be said about the Bangladeshi Muslims who are a potential fifth column and a grave national security threat - such as this.
Whether someone fights in the army or not is off topic. Do you want me to start writing about what Nepalese think of India? Talk about illegal immigration.

There are many Muslims who serve in the Indian Army and BSF as well. Illegals are illegals - period! I am just pointing out the hypocrisy of the critics of the 'sickulars.'
 

Ray

The Chairman
Professional
Joined
Apr 17, 2009
Messages
43,132
Likes
23,835
'Illegal immigration in Assam ignored'TNN Oct 3, 2010, 12.18am IST
Extract from 'Illegal immigration in Assam ignored' - Times Of India

PUNE: Former chief minister of Assam Prafulla Kumar Mahanta on Saturday said that infiltration of illegal immigrants into Assam was never taken up as a national issue. Mahanta said that the need to cease influx of foreigners and prevention of insurgents have remained challenges before the government and several organisations operatin in the troubled state.

Mahanta was speaking at a function organised by Sarhad', a city-based organisation. Former MP and wife of Mahanta, Jayshree Mahanta, was also present.

Mahanta said, "Besides illegal immigration and insurgency, Assam and northern states lack in basic infrastructure like road, rail connectivity. Absence of educational opportunities has become a major concern for youngsters." He also threw light on the effects natural calamities and flood-like disasters have had on Assam over the years.

Mahanta said there is influx of a large number of foreigners into the state, mostly from Bangladesh. "The border with Bangladesh is about 3,000 km running through Assam, Meghalaya, Tripura, Mizoram and West Bengal. The work to construct a wall on the Assam-Bangladesh border is still incomplete," he said.

Mahanta said that the issue of illegal migration was never taken up as a national issue. "Many top political leaders don't feel like visiting Assam to understand the situation there. They feel alienated." He also criticised the Congress party on its stand on illegal immigrants. Mahanta alleged that illegal immigrants are used by the Congress during elections.
 

ani82v

Senior Member
Joined
Jul 6, 2012
Messages
1,006
Likes
707
Country flag
Kya kuchh bhi? Thoda sa jankari liya bhi karo.
Bina koi sahi Dristi ke, jyada jaankari bhi khatarnaak hai...

If there are any such incidences of ration cards wrongly distributed, proper measure should be taken. May be some Pakistani Hindu were also given that.. May be ... I don't know.


The point is proportion and the consequences of the problem which haven't registered to you yet.
 

pmaitra

Senior Member
Joined
Mar 10, 2009
Messages
33,262
Likes
19,594
Bina koi sahi Dristi ke, jyada jaankari bhi khatarnaak hai...

If there are any such incidences of ration cards wrongly distributed, proper measure should be taken. May be some Pakistani Hindu were also given that.. May be ... I don't know.


The point is proportion and the consequences of the problem which haven't registered to you yet.
My response is in post #95. That is where I stand. You may agree or disagree.
 

Latest Replies

Global Defence

New threads

Articles

Top