Third of Indians Corrupt

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  1. roma

    roma NRI in Europe Senior Member

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    1/3 Indians 'utterly corrupt'


    Title of Article: 1/3 Indians 'utterly corrupt'

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    photo caption: Construction for the Commonwealth Games in New Delhi, which has been plagued by allegiations of corruption. -- PHOTO: AFP

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    NEW DELHI - ALMOST one-third of Indians are 'utterly corrupt' and half are 'borderline', the outgoing head of the country's corruption watchdog has said, blaming increased wealth for much of the problem.

    Pratyush Sinha, who retired as India's Central Vigilance Commissioner this week, said the worst part of his 'thankless job' was observing how corruption had increased as people became more materialistic.

    'When we were growing up I remember if somebody was corrupt, they were generally looked down upon,' he said. 'There was at least some social stigma attached to it. That is gone. So there is greater social acceptance.'

    Transparency International, the global anti-graft body, puts India 84th on its corruption perception index with a 3.4-point rating, out of a best possible score of 10. New Zealand ranks first with 9.4 points and Somalia last on 1.1 points.

    The campaign group has said that each year millions of poor Indian families have to bribe officials for access to basic public services.

    Mr Sinha told the Mint newspaper in an interview published on Tuesday that 20 per cent of Indians were 'honest, regardless of the temptations, because this is how they are. They have a conscience.' 'There would be around 30 per cent who would be utterly corrupt. But the rest are the people who are on the borderline,' he added. -- AFP


    Comments: good news ~~ detected by CVC

    the enemy within - dragon has friends in the system
     
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  3. Singh

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    Wow !! 20% of Indians or over 220million (~population the size of USA) are incorruptible. This is excellent news.
     
  4. Daredevil

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    If government officials are corrupt, then why try to extrapolate it to ordinary citizens. Its a totally incorrect statement.
     
  5. Vyom

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    One in three Indians 'utterly corrupt': Outgoing CVC head Read more: One in three In

    One in three Indians 'utterly corrupt': Outgoing CVC head - The Times of India

    NEW DELHI: Almost one-third of Indians are "utterly corrupt" and half are "borderline", the outgoing head of the country's corruption watchdog has said, blaming increased wealth for much of the problem.

    Pratyush Sinha, who retired as India's Central Vigilance Commissioner this week, said the worst part of his "thankless job" was observing how corruption had increased as people became more materialistic.

    "When we were growing up I remember if somebody was corrupt, they were generally looked down upon," he said. "There was at least some social stigma attached to it. That is gone. So there is greater social acceptance."

    Transparency International, the global anti-graft body, puts India 84th on its corruption perception index with a 3.4-point rating, out of a best possible score of 10.

    New Zealand ranks first with 9.4 points and Somalia last on 1.1 points.

    The campaign group has said that each year millions of poor Indian families have to bribe officials for access to basic public services.

    Sinha told the Mint newspaper in an interview published on Tuesday that 20 per cent of Indians were "honest, regardless of the temptations, because this is how they are. They have a conscience.

    "There would be around 30 per cent who would be utterly corrupt. But the rest are the people who are on the borderline," he said, adding that corruption was "palpable".

    Sinha said that in modern India "if somebody has a lot of money, he is respectable. Nobody questions by what means he has got the money."

    Recent corruption scandals in India have focused on construction projects for the Commonwealth Games that open in New Delhi next month, and alleged tax evasion in the lucrative Indian Premier League ( IPL) cricket tournament.

    India is also regarded as a hotbed of illegal betting syndicates, with gamblers and bookmakers involved in "spot-fixing" -- the gambling that has engulfed the current Pakistani cricket tour of England.

    Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has often spoken out against the damaging effect that bribes, extortion and fraud have on all levels of life, and warned that the problem threatens India's future economic prospects.
     
  6. thakur_ritesh

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    the social stigma is still there, atleast that is what i think, and good to know atleast 20% cant be corrupted, i was always of the opinion this figure would be not more than a pretty low single digit.
     
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    I think no ordinary citizen likes to give the bribe or encourage corruption. It is the system that is set up in such a way that citizens end-up giving bribes to get even normal work done by the government officials. If govt. officials don't ask for bribes, citizens will not give them either. So, it is not right to blame the citizens but blame should go to the system set up by our politicians and bureaucrats.
     
  8. hit&run

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    I have seen vigilance bureau SHO taking bribes in Ludhiana myself. Vigilance bureau has become most powerful anti corruption enforcement agency which has misused its powers on everyone indiscriminately to blackmail and earn money. They are worst blackmailer than Police.
    They do not have any moral high ground to declare rest dishonest, when they themselves are committing crimes. Vigilance bureau is draconian force synonymous to Inspector raj and congress I bureaucracy made to interfere into already sluggish ''Daftarshai'' babuism. They are not letting anyone to do the job properly and has caused almost a halt in most of the Public services in Punjab. The way they are digging case and files, doing manipulation and twisting laws to threat public servants has caused significant obstacles in routine public services.
    Their tactics are inhuman same like local police goons. My uncle and his associates are still pay monthly fee to vigilance inspector for sparing him while doing public job.
     
  9. thakur_ritesh

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    that is the case DD and that is precisely why the borderline case is around 50% which shows us that if given an opportunity and if the system was to be corrected, alteast these 50% + the other 20% would never bribe anyone.
     
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    I for one am not surprised.

    Corruption has been socially accepted by the people of India.
     
  11. Vyom

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    Is this only about officials being bribed by general public? The big chunk of corruption figure would come from the pockets of our elected representatives, who amass crores and crores in a jiffy.

    How come there is such a huge economic divide in this country? People pay their hard-earned money in the form of tax and when it comes to utilizing those funds for development, a major chunk of them are lost into undeserving hands when contracts are given. The whole politics is about amassing wealth at the cost lacs and lacs of economically underprivileged and the middle-class. These two sections particularly are the working-horses of the people in power.

    I fear this country may end up in civil wars one day, all for this rampant degradation of living values.
     
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    This post has been made by mistake of the faulty net connection, hence edited.
     
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    the more the systems you computerize the less the corruption will be computerisation of all records and keeping the role of babus helps to ease down corruption ..............
     
  14. Ray

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    @hit&run

    If what you say is correct, then one wonders if the appt of the new CVC, Thomas is ideal.

    He was was accused of corruption when he was in Kerala and then he was the Secy when the 2G scam occurred.

    Therefore, scams seem to follow him. It maybe noted that he was cleared of misdoing in Kerala. There is the 2G scam on. As a CVC, he will see the CBI inquiry and will be expected to opine.

    An interesting situation.
     

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