Discussion in 'Politics & Society' started by LurkerBaba, Sep 25, 2011.
Full article at Now, third child can land you in jail in Kerala - The Times of India
For Hindus,muslims and Christians or only Hindus .If it is the latter Iam foreseeing a bloody riot in the coconut republic.Congress has clearly overplayed its hands if it is the latter
I have read somewhere it is for the majority community only
Offcourse it could happen that way to but in Kerala there is no majority, it is some what equaly divided between Hindus,Muslims and Christians.
After 2 children go for twins.. 4 children is no sin..
That why if it is only for Hindus I forsee a riot which will make the riots that happened so far look like nursery rehearsals
Honestly the citizens of Coconut republic are going cuckoo
Lets cal it CoCo jumbo...
what an idea sirji
distribute idea 3g to ppl ...........3g busy to no abaadi
If a child is conceived outside the state but born in Kerala then what????
I think in Kerala having two kids is enough for most people.
My grandfather had 10 kids. My aunts, uncles, dad pretty much all had just 2 kids.
My grand father has 2 kids and my aunt had only one girl and my dad had 2! Kind of diminishing return in my line.
Exile to cellular jail in Andamans.. We are modernizing it now with govt funds.
If according to the recommendation of the bill the man is imprisoned for three months and slapped with fine,how the does the bill suggest the family fend for itself in the absence of the family bread winner.The family of the man would then be within its right to demand state succor for those three months.If the spirit of the bill is directed at finding solution to resource constraints brought on by an expanding population,particularly on state resources,then it just scored a self goal.
Do the people who drafted the Kerala woman's code bill,have any specific reason to believe that only the man has a role in the birth of the third child,hence target of this law.what is the rationale behind letting woman off,without so much as a rap on the knuckle.
Kerala hardly need s any law to induce people to cut down on their family,esp the Hindu nuclear family.The latter has taken to the concept of nuclear family quite literally off late,what with a typical middle class Hindu family comprising of a husband,wife and their single off spring.
Only scamsters can afford more than 2 kids in this day and age. Soon even 2 is going to be expensive to maintain!!
Panel recommends incentives for promoting two-child norm
KOCHI: Advocating a two-child norm, a panel has suggested that Rs 50,000 should be paid to women from the BPL category, who marry after the age of 19 and have their first child only after attaining 20 years.
The Catholic Church has, however, rejected the proposal, saying such a recommendation was a violation of human rights.
Justice V R Krishna Iyer Commission on Rights and Welfare of Women and Child, submitted its report to Kerala Chief Minister Oommen Chandy yesterday.
The government shall through local government bodies or prescribed agencies provide the cash incentive to the women, Justice T V Ramakrishnan, Vice chairman of the commission, said.
The document says "within the scope of a lawful wedlock, solemnised after the date of commencement of this Code, each unit of husband and wife shall limit its children to two for entitlement to the advantages the state grants to the members of a family."
Adoption of family planning and birth control as secular policy is necessary to check unhealthy, uneconomic and abnormal increase in population and for sustaining harmony and happiness among all communities, the commission, appointed by the government, said.
It is the right of a couple to decide how many children they need, not the state's, Kerala Catholic Bishop's Council spokesperson father Stephen Althara said.
Syro Malabar church spokesperson Father Paul Thelekat said the suggestions were against the future of young people who are the country's greatest assets. The state and religion have no right to decide how many children a couple want, he said.
The commission has also recommended additional facilities and advantages to whose who conform to the family norm set out under the Kerala Women's Code Bill 2011.
A similar sum would be granted on the birth of second child if a spacing of three years after birth of the first kid is proved by a certificate from a gazetted officer of the Revenue department or a medical officer of the Health department or a village panchayat president or the MLA, the commission recommended.
The commission has also suggested that if there is a consistent violation by people on the two child norm, then government can make it a penal act and impose a fine of Rs 10,000 or Upton three months imprisonment.
The bill also recommends establishment of a Health Insurance Plan which covers all couples with their children who are below the poverty line, if one of the spouse has undergone sterilisation. A personal accident insurance cover for the spouse would be provided if any injury is sustained during sterilisation.
The commission has also recommended that facilities for safe abortion should be made available free and through hospitals, health care centres, government and private.
It has also stated that no person or institution shall use religion, sect, caste, cult or other ulterior inducements for bearing more children than permitted.
The girl child should be protected from incest by close relatives and the children should not be driven to begging and the parents also should not cause them to beg.
Constitution of Kerala State Commission for Children has also been mooted by the panel.
Justice Ramakrishnan said it was up to the government to decide the course of action. "We have only given various recommendations. We want an open discussion on this," he said.
As always the minorities will be opposing it and wehave a minority appeasing govt in power.
You are from Zaire you can have n number of kids..:shocked: ,... Varghese.
Are any communities exempted from this law?
This law is so heavily peppered with loopholes, it's not even funny. What if a Kairali couple moves to GA, TN or KA for having their third child, and having its birth registered there?
Such a law is practical only if it's nationwide, and not statewide. If Congaroos are planning this nationwide, good luck getting it implemented in the Cowbelt, and good luck maintaining communal harmony.
Exempting minorities will seriously piss off Hindus and Saffronasaurs. Including minorities will piss them off to an extant where they label it "persecution", and cite how China exempts its minorities from the one-child rule.
Its for all communities it seems.
Its just a proposal, no further details are available as of now.
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