The Syrian Crisis

[pmaitra]

"Moderates" steal food from civilians in cities they are occupying.

 

[pmaitra]

Looks like SAA is making slow but steady progress in Syria against the "moderates.":


A major victory for SAA:


India's Ambassador to Syria says:

 

[pmaitra]

India generally makes less noise, but it is clear which side India is on:

 

[maomao]

Moderates means 'Al-Nusra' LOL are americans getting dumber day by day or it's simply the influence of Hillary Clinton and her notorious self!

 

[pmaitra]

This is rather ironic that this is coming out of a woman. No self respect or morals, whatsoever.

 

[Razor]

I guess this can be posted here, or if there is a separate thread for this issue, it can be moved by the mods.

Apparently ultra nationalist group "Grey wolves" is invloved in the sinai plane crash as per FSB.
The grey wolves is/was active not only in turkey but also in several other countries with significant turkic populations like central asian countries, prc, germany etc. They have a pan-turkic outlook.
Also if i remember right, there was a grey wolves commander involved in killing of one the downed su-24 pilots.

Turkish Nationalist Group Grey Wolves Linked to A321 Terror Attack - FSB

The Turkish nationalist group Grey Wolves could have been involved in the terrorist attack that caused the crash of the Russian Airbus A321 passenger plane in Egypt on October 31, a newspaper reported Monday citing a source in Russia's Federal Security Service (FSB).

According to the newspaper, the Grey Wolves, which emerged in Turkey in late 60s, participated in combat operations in the southern Russian republic of Chechnya, organizing transfer of weapons into the region.

On October 31, 2015, the Russia-operated Airbus A321 crashed en route from the Egyptian resort of Sharm el-Sheikh to St. Petersburg as a result of an explosion on board. All 224 people on board the plane were killed. The crash has become the largest civil aviation disaster in Russian history.

Daesh, which is outlawed in Russia and many other countries, claimed responsibility for the crash.

Source: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160201/1034017414/grey-wolves-a321-fsb.html

 

[ezsasa]

Was watching news reports on CNN, BBC and even RT yesterday. Regarding the bombing on Shia mosque in Syria. Mosque had the tomb of Muhammed's granddaughter.

I thought there was something fishy about the way it was reported, very calculated and no over the top statements on all three news channels.

This is a beginning of something, donno what !!!

 

[Razor]

Was watching news reports on CNN, BBC and even RT yesterday. Regarding the bombing on Shia mosque in Syria. Mosque had the tomb of Muhammed's granddaughter.

I thought there was something fishy about the way it was reported, very calculated and no over the top statements on all three news channels.

This is a beginning of something, donno what !!!

Please explain bit more, with some context.

 

[Kshatriya87]

Was watching news reports on CNN, BBC and even RT yesterday. Regarding the bombing on Shia mosque in Syria. Mosque had the tomb of Muhammed's granddaughter.

I thought there was something fishy about the way it was reported, very calculated and no over the top statements on all three news channels.

This is a beginning of something, donno what !!!

Are you sure? Mohammed's granddaughter? This will lead to massive retaliation I think.

 

[ezsasa]

Are you sure? Mohammed's granddaughter? This will lead to massive retaliation I think.

Yup very sure....................

 

[Razor]

Yup very sure....................

Who bombed?

And what do you mean in your post 3647?

 

[The Last Stand]

On 29 Jan there was an attack on a Shia Mosque in SAUDI ARABIA.

On 31st there was an attack on a Shia mosque in Damascus, SYRIA.

At least, that's what the online news outlets say

29th:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...osque-bombing-Report/articleshow/50775828.cms

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/01/29/middleeast/saudi-arabia-violence/

31st:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/31/syria-mosque-bombing-harsh-light-slow-un-peace-talks

Both attacks were apparently claimed by ISIS.

None of these articles mention anything about the Saudi Mosque having Mohammed's granddaughter's tomb, but I will keep digging.

(I did not read them fully, so I might have missed it)

Edit: read fully and used the find function to search as well. Nothing

 

[pmaitra]

SAA has made some progress against the "moderates":



Earlier:

 

[Rowdy]

Gentlemen today is the beginning of the end for "Terrorism" in Syria..... Aleppo is a stones throw away from the SAA. The Latakia provience is almost captured.

 

[Ikap]

The term "Muslims" is used in Europe to refer to specific ethnictes, though varying from country to country, that are always lower class and troublemakers. They are like the untouchables of Europe.

In the British Isles, the Muslims are usually Pakistanis, and they are stereotyped as being "chavvy" or untouchable.

In Mainland Europe, they are mostly from Africa, though in Central Europe, they are mainly Turkish. The Africans are just as bad as the Pakistanis. They are both stereotyped poorly; failing at education, criminals, living in poverty, refusing to assimilate, conservative Muslims, paedophiles, racists, rapists, homophobia, etc and this continues for several generations.

Pakistanis get worse treatment in terms of racism because they are more vocally Muslim. Africans in France are heavily looked down on! They have the similar untouchable stereotype but the name evades me.

 

[Razor]

@pmaitra @Kshatriya87 @gadeshi and others

Turkey Confirms Military Strikes Against Syrian Forces, Warns of 'Massive Escalation' in Syria Over Next 24 Hours

Its official -- even Turkey's prime minister has confirmed: Turkish forces have attacked Kurdish YPG militias in northern Syria, and have demanded the Kurds withdraw from the airbase they recently captured from "moderate" rebels.

Turkey has also confirmed strikes against the Syrian Arab Army (SAA). Ankara claims the attacks (mostly likely shelling, but it's not 100% clear) were in retaliation for mortar fire from Syrian forces. While this scenario isn't impossible, most likely Turkey is looking to provoke the Syrians into firing the first shot -- then a direct military intervention would be "justified" in the eyes of NATO/The New York Times.

Source: http://russia-insider.com/en/turkey...ooks-seal-syrian-turkish-border-force/ri12830

Also apparently KSA moved fighter planes, personnel to Turkey???

 

[myana]

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/0...-on-russian-syrian-and-kurdish-forces-begins/

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...y-ahead-of-intervention-against-a6871611.html

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...e-for-Syria-invasion/articleshow/50975093.cms

From past few days Saudi's new DM Prince Mohammad bin Salman Al Saud and Turkey Prime minister(Infact Sunni coalition) have come together and decided to invade Syria. Saudi & Turkey wants to invade Syria to keep their interests alive from Syria, Russia & Iranian forces.

Now what will Russia, Iran do, of course Syria will defend its sovereignty. How will world players like China, USA(of coursewill support Saudi&Turkey), EU will do. What will the The Hapless UN will do.

What should be the India's posture be and what should India do?

 

[sorcerer]

Erdogan feels the US left Turkey in the lurch with Syrian conflict
“Turkey wants the United States to come in strong on Syria, stop the Russians and stop the refugee flow that’s pouring out of Aleppo,” says Josh Landis, director of the Center of Middle East Studies at the University of Oklahoma. “Turkey feels like it's been left holding the bag both by the United States and Europe. ... America looks like it’s bowing out. It’s going to let Russia try to clean up Syria or at least have its way in Syria.”

http://www.pri.org/stories/2016-02-11/erdo-feels-us-left-turkey-lurch-syrian-conflict

 

[myana]

Will it lead to World War 3 or Just another arm twisting thing to make Russia & Syria to accept the terms of Negotiations?

 

[pmaitra]

@pmaitra @Kshatriya87 @gadeshi and others

Turkey Confirms Military Strikes Against Syrian Forces, Warns of 'Massive Escalation' in Syria Over Next 24 Hours

Source: http://russia-insider.com/en/turkey...ooks-seal-syrian-turkish-border-force/ri12830

Also apparently KSA moved fighter planes, personnel to Turkey???

Turkey is getting desperate. I think they are trying hard to drag entire NATO into the fight, because by themselves, then can do nothing.

Saudi moved its forces into Syria are most likely hired guns from Sudan and Pakistan. The Saudis have been getting a lot of battering by the Houthis.

I see this as a sign of desperation.