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I willing IS win the war vs Syria's Armed and Russia will lose with 50.000 and also with 100.000 ground forces. IS are also strong in Syria.

Nobody know which strenght warriors is left for IS in Syria conflict ?? Between 25.000 - 35.000 warriors ?! Rebells are maximum 20.000 men.
First, the number is more likely to be between 10000 to 15000. Second, syrian army combined with Russian army far outweigh the IS numbers. Also, IS does not have any aerial or naval support. Syrian air force uses barrel bombs whereas Russian air force and navy uses precision / guided missiles. Not to mention other accessories if you may. In no way can IS win this war with them unless they are supported directly with US supplied weapons (I mean more advanced weapons).
 

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Are rebells number of soldiers.

A Queiston. Hoe many warriors of IS ?!

US supporting IS ?!
 

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Turkish troops near Mosul airport









I dont beleave that all this has happened without the agreement of the scam Barzani (trading ISIS oil with Erdogan) ................
 

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So Turkey and US will IS won vs Syria Arab Army + Russia ?? Then final fight can starting ??
 

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[size=14pt]Erdogan Moves To Annexes Mosul[/size]
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2015/12/erdogan-moves-to-annexes-mosul.html

The wannabe Sultan Erdogan did not get his will in Syria where he had planned to capture and annex Aleppo. The Russians prevented that. He now goes for his secondary target, Mosul in Iraq, which many Turks see as historic part of their country:

At the end of World War I in October 1918, after the signature of the Armistice of Mudros, British forces occupied Mosul. After the war, the city and the surrounding area became part of the Occupied Enemy Territory Administration (1918-1920), and shortly Mandatory Iraq (1920-1932). This mandate was contested by Turkey which continued to claim the area based on the fact that it was under Ottoman control during the signature of the Armistice. In the Treaty of Lausanne, the dispute over Mosul was left for future resolution by the League of Nations. Iraq's possession of Mosul was confirmed by the League of Nations brokered agreement between Turkey and Great Britain in 1926. Former Ottoman Mosul Vilayet eventually became Nineveh Province of Iraq, but Mosul remained the provincial capital.
Mosul, Iraq's second biggest city with about a million inhabitants, is currently occupied by the Islamic State.

On Friday a column of some 1,200 Turkish soldiers with some 20 tanks and heavy artillery moved into a camp near Mosul. The camp was one of four small training areas where Turkey was training Kurds and some Sunni-Arab Iraqis to fight the Islamic State. The small camps in the northern Kurdish area have been there since the 1990s. They were first established to fight the PKK. Later their Turkish presence was justified as ceasefire monitors after an agreement ended the inner Kurdish war between the KDP forces loyal to the Barzani clan and the PUK forces of the Talabani clan. The bases were actually used to monitor movement of the PKK forces which fight for Kurdish independence in Turkey.

The base near Mosul is new and it was claimed to be just a small weapons training base. But tanks and artillery have a very different quality than some basic AK-47 training. Turkey says it will increase the numbers in these camps to over 2000 soldiers.

Should Mosul be cleared of the Islamic State the Turkish heavy weapons will make it possible for Turkey to claim the city unless the Iraqi government will use all its power to fight that claim. Should the city stay in the hands of the Islamic State Turkey will make a deal with it and act as its protector. It will benefit from the oil around Mosul which will be transferred through north Iraq to Turkey and from there sold on the world markets. In short: This is an effort to seize Iraq's northern oil fields.

That is the plan but it is a risky one. Turkey did not ask for permission to invade Iraq and did not inform the Iraqi government.

The Turks claim that they were invited by the Kurds: :eek:mg:
Turkey will have a permanent military base in the Bashiqa region of Mosul as the Turkish forces in the region training the Peshmerga forces have been reinforced, Hürriyet reported.
The deal regarding the base was signed between Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) President Massoud Barzani and Turkish Foreign Minister Feridun Sinirlioğlu, during the latter’s visit to northern Iraq on Nov. 4.

There are two problems with this. [size=14pt]First[/size]: Massoud Barzani is no longer president of the KRG. His mandate ran out and the parliament refused to prolong it. [size=14pt]Second:[/size] Mosul and its Bashiqa area are not part of the KRG. Barzani making a deal about it is like him making a deal about Paris.

The Iraqi government and all major Iraqi parties see the Turkish invasion as a hostile act against their country. Abadi demanded the immediate withdrawal of the Turkish forces but it is unlikely that Turkey will act on that. Some Iraqi politicians have called for the immediate dispatch of the Iraqi air force to bomb the Turks near Mosul. That would probably the best solution right now but the U.S. installed Premier Abadi is too timid to go for such strikes. The thinking in Baghdad is that Turkey can be kicked out after the Islamic State is defeated. But this thinking gives Turkey only more reason to keep the Islamic State alive and use it for its own purpose. The cancer should be routed now as it is still small.

Barzani's Kurdistan is so broke that is has even confiscated foreign bank accounts to pay some bills. That may be the reason why Barzani agreed to the deal now. But the roots run deeper. Barzani is illegally selling oil that belongs to the Iraqi government to Turkey. The Barzani family occupies not only the presidential office in the KRG but also the prime minister position and the local secret services. It is running the oil business and gets a big share of everything else. On the Turkish side the oil deal is handled within the family of President Erdogan. His son in law, now energy minister, had the exclusive right to transport the Kurdish oil through Turkey. Erdogan's son controls the shipping company that transports the oil over sea to the customer, most often Israel. The oil under the control of the Islamic State in Iraq passes the exactly same route. These are businesses that generate hundreds of millions per year.

It is unlikely that U.S., if it is not behinds Turkey new escapade, will do anything about it. The best Iraq could do now is to ask the Russians for their active military support. The Turks insisted on their sovereignty when they ambushed a Russian jet that brushed its border but had no intend of harming Turkey. Iraq should likewise insist on its sovereignty, ask Russia for help and immediately kick the Turks out. The longer it waits the bigger the risk that Turkey will eventually own Mosul.
 

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Iraq hopes not they will have Russia supporting their territorium because Iraq will to lose against Islamic State then maybe Turkey go in war vs Kurdistan. Maybe Turkey will have 100.000 troops vs Kurdistan Army. Then when Turkey won they will celebrite with Islamic State in old Iraq. This I wanted now. Turkish territorium will be bigger. Friendship between Turkey and Islamic State.
 

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Now.. what about this ..!! (it seems that Barzani scam .. now out of office officialy is selling bases and oil transport to Sultan Erdogan .. seems he has reached an agreement..) look what he was claiming back 2007...!!




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http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.ru/2007/10/barzani-defies-turkish-invasion-plans.html
MONDAY, OCTOBER 29, 2007

Barzani Defies Turkish Invasion Plans
The High Stakes in Iraqi Kurdistan
By Patrick Cockburn in Iraqi Kurdistan

Masoud Barzani, the leader of the Kurds of northern Iraq, expressed defiance yesterday in the face of a threatened invasion by 100,00 Turkish troops, and was scornful of Turkey's claim that it wants only to pursue Turkish-Kurd rebels.
"We are not a threat to Turkey and I do not accept the language of threatening and blackmailing from the government of Turkey," he said from his mountain fortress of Salahudin 10 miles north of Arbil. "If they invade there will be war."

Mr Barzani is President of the Kurdistan Regional Government, the autonomous Kurdish area in northern Iraq which enjoys quasi-independence from Baghdad and has stronger military forces than half of the members of the UN.

He was in no mood to buckle under Turkish pressure to take military action against the guerrillas of the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) who have their hideouts in the mountain ranges along Iraqi Kurdistan's borders with Iran and Turkey. "My main mission would be not to allow a Kurdish-Kurdish fight to happen within the Kurdish liberation movement," he declared.

Mr Barzani said Turkey's attempt to solve its Kurdish problem by military means alone had not worked in the past 23 years and would not work now. It was in 1984 that the PKK took up arms, seeking independence or autonomy from theTurkish state that refused to admit that it had a Kurdish minority of 15 million.

Mr Barzani also said that he was increasingly convinced that the Turkish objective was not the PKK but Iraqi Kurdistan, which has achieved near-independence since 2003. He said he was convinced Turkey's claim that its target was the PKK "is only an excuse and the target is the Kurdistan region itself". When the KRG put its peshmerga (soldiers) on the border with Turkey to control the areas where the PKK has sought refuge, Turkish artillery had shelled them, he said.
Mr Barzani appears to believe there is no concession he could offer to Turkey which would defuse the crisis because he himself and the KRG are the true target of Ankara.

Turkish military action might be largely symbolic with ground troops not advancing very far, but even this would have a serious impact on the economy of the KRG. The Iraqi Kurds would also be badly hurt if Turkey closed the Habur Bridge, the crossing point near Zakho through which passes much of Kurdistan's trade. Some 825,000 trucks crossed the bridge in both directions last year. Asked what the impact of the closure of Habur Bridge would be on Iraqi Kurdistan, Mr Barzani said determinedly: "We would not starve."

Turkish artillery is already firing shells across the border in the high mountains around Kani Masi, a well-watered border village in western Kurdistan, famous for its apple orchards. The shelling is persistent and is evidently designed as warning to the Iraqi Kurds. "We are afraid but we have nowhere else to go," said Mohammed Mustafa, an elderly farmer.

For the moment, the villagers are staying put. Many of them in this area are Syriac Christians whose parents or grandparents emigrated to Baghdad but had returned recently because of fear of sectarian killing in the capital. Omar Mai, the local head of Mr Barzani's Kurdistan Democratic Party in Kani Masi, said that seven villages in the area had recently been shelled.

He said that there were no PKK in the villages and that they stayed permanently in the high mountains. Another reason for the PKK guerrillas making themselves scarce in this area is that there are Turkish outposts and garrisons already inside Iraq, set up during previous incursions. At one point near the village of Begova the snouts of Turkish tanks point menacingly down the road.

Driving to the top of a mountain where peshmerga were dug in, Mr Mai explained with some pride the intricate geography of the frontier. On one hilltop below us was the Turkish army, identifiable by the red Turkish flag, while a few hundred yards below the hill, separated by a flimsy fence, were Iraqi Kurdish frontier guards living in a long white barracks. In a grove of trees behind this building was a villa that was also occupied by Turkish troops.

Further north, hidden by folds in the mountains, are the Turkish guns that intermittently bombard this area. If the Turkish army does want to advance here there is not much to stop them, but it is unlikely that they would find any PKK, scanty in number and well-hidden in caves, in this vast range of mountains and valleys.

Patrick Cockburn is the author of 'The Occupation: War, resistance and daily life in Iraq', a finalist for the National Book Critics' Circle Award for best non-fiction book of 2006.
 
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I've changes my mind.

I want Assad loses then IS or the rebells will win in Syria conflict.

I like the war in Iraq there I hope Russia will help the Iraqi Army since Kurdistan is lost to Turkey that goes to invasion with I hope 100.000 troops or which is better with war sizes ?!
 

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Mass graves of women 'too old to be Isil sex slaves' - this is what we're facing

Sophy Ridge explains why we can't ignore murdered Yazidi women


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I think,

we have to invoke Lord Krisha's phrase, that this is war and you need to defend your self.

Since 1000 years, we have remained silent. I say, we have just 20-30 years more and after that, we need to involve ourselves in world politics.

Because when 1 Billion people remain silent over such atrocities, then it is a bloody shame on us.
 

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Turkish troops near Mosul airport









I dont beleave that all this has happened without the agreement of the scam Barzani (trading ISIS oil with Erdogan) ................

I have started disliking turkey for supporting the barbarians. I just hope, Russia teaches some really good lessons to these a*sholes.

The problem creators are

Saudi Arabia,
Kuwait,
Turkey
 

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https://www.rt.com/news/324936-germany-criticizes-saudi-arabia/

Germany has publicly warned Saudi Arabia against further financing religious radicals globally. German Vice Chancellor Sigmar Gabriel’s demand to cut money flowing to the Wahhabis comes as some lawmakers are growing weary of Saudi-funded radical mosques.
Gabriel stressed that the Saudi regime has been funding mosques known for radicalizing the Muslim population, including in various communities in Europe.

We have to make clear to the Saudis that the time of looking away is over, Mr Gabriel, Merkel’s deputy and the head of the Social Democrats (SPD), told Bild am Sonntag newspaper. Wahhabi mosques all over the world are financed by Saudi Arabia. Many Islamists who are a threat to public safety come from these communities in Germany.”


The German media has heavily criticized Saudi King Salman for proposing that 200 mosques be built for the Syrian refugees coming to Germany. This issue gained more traction as Saudi Arabia has refused to accept any refugees from Syria.

The surprisingly open disapproval of Saudi policies comes after a German foreign intelligence agency (BND) report claiming that Riyadh’s foreign relations could be a major destabilizing force in the Arab world.

Immediately after the report was released, German Chancellor Angela Merkel’s government attempted to create some distance between the BND analysis and official foreign policy line.
 

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S.A. aren't buisness dealer with Germany or whatever it is ?!
 

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So shiyas are no saint as they claim,several war crimes like beheadings in Syria are being done by shiyas with prior knowledge of Iran.

They are on par with Sunnis in persecution and war crimes in Syria.
 

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Iran are likers of IS ?!

Whatever it is but IS like Iran ??

No Jihadist wars in Iran.
 

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Iran are likers of IS ?!

Whatever it is but IS like Iran ??

No Jihadist wars in Iran.

because they don't give a f+ck to Mecca Madina Influence on Political issues. They know how to treat Saudis like dogs.

And People in India should also stop giving a sh*t to saudis and turkish
 

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Russia has conducted first sorties from Shayrat (Homs) and Tiyas (Palmyra), its new bases in Syria. They are now officially operating

https://twitter.com/yurybarmin
Yury Barmin ‏@yurybarmin 8 ώρεςΠριν από 8 ώρες
Shayrat base is used for airstrikes in Homs, Tiyas - as a support facility for refueling and reloading during strikes in Deir Ez Zor & Raqqa
 

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Russia has conducted first sorties from Shayrat (Homs) and Tiyas (Palmyra), its new bases in Syria. They are now officially operating

https://twitter.com/yurybarmin
Yury Barmin ‏@yurybarmin 8 ώρεςΠριν από 8 ώρες
Shayrat base is used for airstrikes in Homs, Tiyas - as a support facility for refueling and reloading during strikes in Deir Ez Zor & Raqqa
Now I never like.

I changes from to me to Iraq wars.

Operation freedom Iraq.
 

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Somehow I always doubted the isis targets being hit by the US and had a strong feeling that they are hitting Syrian forces, and supplying isisi and other good islamic jihadis. Now it's out in the open that US is bombing the good side and supporting anyone who is islamic and anti-Syria!
 

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