The state of the Indian/Hindu resistance - Indian nationalists: By Norway Gunman

[Anonymous]

I'm sure many people would be now aware of the Norway gunman who shot and killed many people. 2 days before the incident he made a video which can be found here LiveLeak.com - Norwegian killer made this video (confirmed by Norwegian media).

This page is taken from the manifesto of Norway gunman Andrew Berwick. It can be found on page number 1475 from this link or another link to pdf document - http://unitednations.ispnw.org/archives/breivik-manifesto-2011.pdf

3.158 The state of the Indian/Hindu resistance - Indian nationalists

Saffronisation is a political neologism (after the saffron robes of the Hindu clerics), used
to refer to the policy of right-wing Hindu nationalism (or Hindutva) which seeks to make
the Indian state into a "Hindu nation" and its Sikh, Buddhist and Jain minorities
incorporated into Hinduism. These nationalist movements are also called Sanatana
Dharma movements.

A related term, the Saffron Brigade, is used as a descriptor of people and organisations in
India that promote Hindu nationalism such as the Sangh Parivar by their critics, who
allege a militant Hindu agenda. The Sanatana Dharma movements or Hindu nationalists
in general are suffering from the same persecution by the Indian cultural Marxists as
their European cousins. An example of typical Hindu nationalist ridicule:

"Ullal by-polls results are out and the Congress has retained its 'forte,' thus upsetting BJP
and JD(S) calculations. [...]The message is clear - the BJP has failed to gain the confidence
of minorities. "Come what may. We do not want the saffron brigade or any other party
which is supporting the saffron brigade to come to power in Ullal" - is the answer given by
the electorate of Ullal."​

The thing is, Indian government (current government United Progressive Alliance
coalition led by Indian National Congress) is a Socialist-Leftist Liberalists. The other side
is National Democratic Alliance led by Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), a political arm to the
RSS: these people are of Hindu right wing nationalism comprising of Hindu parties
(including Sikh, Buddhist, and Jain sub-sects), strongly supported by Jewish and
Zoroastrian minorities.

The UPA (incumbent government) relies on appeasing Muslims and very sadly
proselytising Christian missionaries who illegally convert low caste Hindus with lies and
fear alongside Communists who want total destruction of the Hindu faith and culture.
The irony in India is that the Hindus who are living abroad (expatriate Hindus) are more
concerned about Hindu culture than the ones in India, because from abroad, they can get
an eagle's view of what's happening in India while Indian Hindu residents don't see it
being in the scene.

The only positive thing about the Hindu right wing is that they dominate the streets. They
do not tolerate the current injustice and often riot and attack Muslims when things get
out of control, usually after the Muslims disrespect and degrade Hinduism too much. This
behaviour is nonetheless counterproductive. Because instead of attacking the Muslims
they should target the category A and B traitors in India and consolidate military cells
and actively seek the overthrow of the cultural Marxist government.

India will continue to wither and die unless the Indian nationalists consolidate properly
and strike to win. It is essential that the European and Indian resistance movements
learn from each other and cooperate as much as possible. Our goals are more or less
identical.

The PCCTS, Knights Templar support the Sanatana Dharma movements and Indian
nationalists in general.

Hindutva - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Saffronization - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Sangh Parivar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Snapshot of the page from the manifesto

This page regarding India reflects his mentality.

 

[Godless-Kafir]

The video was added 22hours ago, the crime happened 2days ago!! and the link you gave me is an attack site!

Also it does not make sense that this guy goes and kills the very people he wants to be saved and protected! I just dont get how these loonies think!

 

[raja696]

i dnt know abt above source (ignorance is bliss) but I really hate butchering innocent innocent people no matter what the reason is .... my sincere condolences to Norway people.

 

[The Messiah]

The video was added 22hours ago, the crime happened 2days ago!! and the link you gave me is an attack site!

Also it does not make sense that this guy goes and kills the very people he wants to be saved and protected! I just dont get how these loonies think!

That too religious loonies.

 

[Iamanidiot]

I never understood this NAZI loonies fascination with Sanskrit and the indian sub-continent.

 

[maomao]

Leftist loonies such as great Chairman "Mao" and "Stalin" are responsible for millions of deaths and genocides which were bigger than what Nazis did to the Jews; the big difference is that Mao and Stalin butchered their own people in bigger numbers, unlike Religious and Nazi fanatics!

P.S: Maoists and other leftists in India are no different, for them every terrorist is innocent and a Hindu is a born culprit; the divisive/self-hating brainwashing of new leftist recruits continues till date.

 

[The Messiah]

Well that's a sweeping statement. Majority of leftists in this country are hindus so that creates a paradox.

and you're yourself a leftist without realizing it

 

[The Messiah]

Mao and Stalin butchered their own people in bigger numbers, unlike Religious and Nazi fanatics!

Weren't Jews and Nazi's german citizens ?
Aren't shia and sunni both muslims, catholic and protestands both christians and higher and lower cast both hindus ? so why they kill and oppress there own and even continue today.

How many millions died because of famines in India due to the british ? were they leftists or religiously motivated. views of chruchil are identical to europeans right wingers.

 

[maomao]

Leftists may be Hindu by Birth, not by practice....they are more like self-hating delusional loonies who are hell bent on introducing the dumb "lal Kranti" by imposing their failed ideology, they are anti-Hinduism not to be confused with being anti other religions!!

 

[maomao]

Weren't Jews and Nazi's german citizens ?
Aren't shia and sunni both muslims, catholic and protestands both christians and higher and lower cast both hindus ? so why they kill and oppress there own and even continue today.

How many millions died because of famines in India due to the British ? were they leftists or religiously motivated. views of chruchil are identical to europeans right wingers.

Jews are not Nazis, nor they were originally from Germany!

Shia-Sunnies never kill in millions they may have religious differences, leftists go on eradicating everyone and anyone who opposes them, that's an historical fact!

I never mentioned Brits, you can go on making analogies in the most obtuse manner.....I am here for you!!

 

[The Messiah]

Leftists may be Hindu by Birth, not by practice....they are more like self-hating delusional loonies who are hell bent on introducing the dumb "lal Kranti" by imposing their failed ideology, they are anti-Hinduism not to be confused with being anti other religions!!

I wouldn't be surprised if moist commanders haven't even heard of marx.

Your understanding of left policies is negligible. What is the difference between socialism and communism ? Even i recognize that communism cant work.

Northern europe has the highest living standards and they are piratically socialist. That blows your theory out of the water. If you think ussr was run according to true leftist policies then you are mistaken nor was china.

 

[The Messiah]

Jews are not Nazis, nor they were originally from Germany!

Shia-Sunnies never kill in millions they may have religious differences, leftists go on eradicating everyone and anyone who opposes them, that's an historical fact!

I never mentioned Brits, you can go on making analogies in the most obtuse manner.....I am here for you!!

But you should mentoin brits since they killed fellow Indians by the millions. Why ignore right wing atrocities ?

British right wingers still dream about "empire strikes back". How many civilians has usa killed in the past 50 years ? millions ...

What were nazis before they became nazis ? thats right germans!

 

[maomao]

But you should mentoin brits since they killed fellow Indians by the millions. Why ignore right wing atrocities ?

British right wingers still dream about "empire strikes back". How many civilians has usa killed in the past 50 years ? millions ...

What were nazis before they became nazis ? thats right germans!

Since when did Brits became "fellow Indians" when we were their colony?? I fail to fathom this concept of yours, when you compare genocides deliberately perpetrated by - Mao and Stalin on their countrymen in millions(or according to you they were aliens?), while comparing these atrocities with famines and natural disasters which occurred during Brit rule!

Yes Nazis were Germans; however, Jews were not Nazis, and Jews were considered outsiders even by Germans. Nazism did not prop-up - out of a sudden - one fine day, and took over Germany; there was a deep rooted anguish against the corrupt economic practices of Jews in the entire Europe (the notion of corrupt economic practices is debatable)!

 

[Anonymous]

The video was added 22hours ago, the crime happened 2days ago!!

The video was first uploaded on youtube but then was removed by youtube website. Someone downloaded it and uploaded it on liveleak. Here is another video on youtube
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and the link you gave me is an attack site!

I'm not getting any notification of attack site and that link is also posted on wikipedia page so I doubt it is an attack site. Perhaps your anti-virus is not working properly. The link is a pdf document. Here is another link if you want to

link to pdf document - http://unitednations.ispnw.org/archives/breivik-manifesto-2011.pdf
download torrent - http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6560898/2083_A_European_Declaration_of_Independence
download from mediafire - http://www.mediafire.com/?1khq2dp93obby2v

 

[Anonymous]

Snapshot of the page from the manifesto

 

[pmaitra]

Leftists may be Hindu by Birth, not by practice....they are more like self-hating delusional loonies who are hell bent on introducing the dumb "lal Kranti" by imposing their failed ideology, they are anti-Hinduism not to be confused with being anti other religions!!

Any ideology cannot succeed without them accessing power. It is this failed ideology that sent the first artificial satellite and the first man into space. Of course, there are too many to list, but as an Indian, saving us from US aggression in 1971-72 would be at the top of my list.

Aren't there good and bad sides to every ideology?

Since when did Brits became "fellow Indians" when we were their colony?? I fail to fathom this concept of yours, when you compare genocides deliberately perpetrated by - Mao and Stalin on their countrymen in millions(or according to you they were aliens?), while comparing these atrocities with famines and natural disasters which occurred during Brit rule!

I would use the term 'natural' for events that are purely caused by nature and those that are caused by the actions of man, 'artificial.' This has been well discussed in DFI. You may check the thread about the film 'Dear Friend Hitler.'

Yes Nazis were Germans; however, Jews were not Nazis, and Jews were considered outsiders even by Germans. Nazism did not prop-up - out of a sudden - one fine day, and took over Germany; there was a deep rooted anguish against the corrupt economic practices of Jews in the entire Europe (the notion of corrupt economic practices is debatable)!

The point is not what the Nazis considered the Jews as, the point is what you consider them to be. Do you consider the German Jews as German Jews or simply Jews? In the former case, you are forced to recognise that Nationalists can be as much as loonies, if not more, just like Stalin or Mao. In the latter case, you are simply agreeing with Stalin deporting Chechens because they were not Soviet Chechens but simply Chechens. It's a double edged sword buddy!


Just a simple comparison:

• Stalin: Chechens (not all) conspired against the Soviet Union with the Nazis during WWII. They were deported or sent to gulags en masse.
• Hitler: Jews' (not all) role during and after WWI has been questioned and accused of not supporting the German campaign. As a reaction, all the Jews were persecuted by the Nazis.

In either case, we see that just because some people from a certain community do something, the entire community is victimised, most of them being innocent. I fail to see a difference between Stalin and the Nazis here. However, one who is blindly-left will justify what Stalin did just as much as one who is blindly-right will try to justify what the Nazis did. It takes a neutral mind to recognise that innocents were victimised in either case. Where do you stand?

 

[Phenom]

Its quite surprising how much the communists and fascists have in common.

Both use and justify violence, both are paranoid, both are hyper-nationalistic and both pick on a section of the society and demonize them, rightist often target the minorities, while the leftist target the rich. The only major difference I can see between them is their attitude towards women, fascist tend to have a regressive view of women and restrict women rights, while the communist support women empowerment, they even use women in their armies.

 

[POSSIBLE]

Re: The state of the Indian/Hindu resistance - Indian nationalists: By

I never understood this NAZI loonies fascination with Sanskrit and the indian sub-continent.

they have vedas and many indian ancient books on ayurveda in their library because this gives them a lot of patents.

 

[Julian]

Re: The state of the Indian/Hindu resistance - Indian nationalists: By

Just a simple comparison:
Stalin: Chechens (not all) conspired against the Soviet Union with the Nazis during WWII. They were deported or sent to gulags en masse.
Hitler: Jews' (not all) role during and after WWI has been questioned and accused of not supporting the German campaign. As a reaction, all the Jews were persecuted by the Nazis.
In either case, we see that just because some people from a certain community do something, the entire community is victimised, most of them being innocent. I fail to see a difference between Stalin and the Nazis here. However, one who is blindly-left will justify what Stalin did just as much as one who is blindly-right will try to justify what the Nazis did. It takes a neutral mind to recognise that innocents were victimised in either case. Where do you stand?

Yes but no one follows nazism as openly as Communists follow Stalin with his statue there in WBengal. Being called a nazi is worst thing one can get while communist is a term which most of our intellectuals loved being called before this age.

Hitler and Stalin were both product of socialism.

 

[Julian]

Re: The state of the Indian/Hindu resistance - Indian nationalists: By

Its quite surprising how much the communists and fascists have in common.

Both use and justify violence, both are paranoid, both are hyper-nationalistic and both pick on a section of the society and demonize them, rightist often target the minorities, while the leftist target the rich. The only major difference I can see between them is their attitude towards women, fascist tend to have a regressive view of women and restrict women rights, while the communist support women empowerment, they even use women in their armies.

Whereas fascists have never done massive crimes against humanity except Hitler's Germany, there does not exist a single full communist nation where mass starvation, slaughter of hundreds of thousands has not taken place. As for women empowerment, communists regarded women as common property and the way Maoists in India and Nepal are turning women into machines to release one's beastly instincts should be a case in point but our intellectuals have zero regard for all this, they want women out of homes even if it means the exploitation level is unrivalled.
Fascism is nothing but a manifestation of nationalism fighting a last ditch battle against Communism which is good overall.