The sixth anniversary of 26/11 attacks

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    The sixth anniversary of 26/11 attacks , AniNews.in

    Washington, Nov.25 (ANI): On the sixth anniversary of 26/11 attacks, India faces primarily two kinds of jihadist terror threats. One, as a society, it is witnessing the birth of self-radicalizing Muslim youth who are attracted to the jihadist call of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) led by Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi. This radicalization can be countered by India's vibrant democracy, pluralism and alert parents.

    On November 22, National Security Advisor Ajit Doval told a conference in New Delhi that 5-6 youth recently showed "inclination" to join the ISIS but their parents were first to contact the security agencies in preventing them from doing so. Doval's optimism must be encouraged.

    Second, as a state, India faces a very old-and-new jihadist threat from Pakistan. In September, Al-Qaeda leader Ayman Al-Zawahiri announced the establishment of Al-Qaeda in the Indian Subcontinent (AQIS).

    The nature of 26/11 and 9/11 attacks reveal interesting characteristics. Both appear to have been planned by a single person or organization. On 9/11, the jihadists launched airborne invasions of U.S. cities.

    On 26/11, they launched seaborne invasion of Mumbai. They used GPS technology to guide planes and boats to reach their targets. This pattern was demonstrated for a third time on September 6 when the AQIS attempted to take over Pakistani frigate PNS Zulfiqar in order to use it to attack US and Indian warships on the high seas.

    The three attacks - 9/11, 26/11 and September 6 - indeed reveal a deep connection between Al-Qaeda and the Pakistani military's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI). On November 22, Home Minister Rajnath Singh, speaking a few hours before Ajit Doval, said in Delhi: "Terrorism in India is fully Pakistan-sponsored. Pakistan says non-state actors are involved. But is ISI non-state actor?"

    Although led by Arab terrorists, Al-Qaeda is fundamentally a Pakistani organization; it was formed in Pakistan in 1988; it is from Pakistan that it spread to the Middle East. Al-Qaeda is practically a branch of the ISI, which views itself as the ideological guardian of the Islamic state of Pakistan: both Al-Qaeda and the ISI share the same ideological objective - establishment of the Islamic Caliphate, with the only difference being that ISI wants Pakistan to be the head of such an international caliphate.

    Evidence in the public domain demonstrates that the ISI and Al-Qaeda function in close cooperation. The ISI protected Osama bin Laden in Abbottabad and continues to protect Taliban leader Mullah Mohammad Omar, who is also the top-most Al-Qaeda leader, given that all Taliban factions and Al-Qaeda affiliates have expressed an oath of allegiance to him as Emir-ul-Momineen (Leader of the Ummah). Protecting bin Laden in Abbottabad was in tune with the ISI's established policy, as also demonstrated in its protection of jihadist groups' headquarters Muzaffarabad, Bahawalpur and Muridke.

    While the Pakistan Army carries out the facade of military operations in the tribal region, the Haqqani Network militants are found in Rawalpindi, not in Waziristan. In 2011, US military's top officer Admiral Mike Mullen described the Haqqani Network as the ISI's "veritable arm."

    In the late-1980s, as the US was winding up its mission Afghanistan and the Soviets were to about leave, the ISI planned its next jihad in Jammu and Kashmir that peaked through the 1990s. During the 2000s, it tried to take its jihad to India's heartland by using the Indian Mujahideen.

    In 2014, as the US is winding up its mission in Afghanistan, the ISI appears to be mounting its next jihadist mission. The establishment of AQIS means that Al-Qaeda is being used to advance the ISI's post-2014 strategy.

    Through its early days to the 1980s, Pakistan sought to expand its sphere of Islamic influence through Afghanistan to Central Asia and got Pakistani citizens recruited in the Afghan government institutions in the 1990s when the Taliban were power. Now, it is looking eastward through India to Bangladesh and Myanmar to establish an imaginary caliphate. The AQIS is a Pakistani brainchild, not a product of' Arab mind.

    Former ISI chiefs continue to work for the secret agency in informal capacities. Lt. Gen. Zahirul Islam, who stepped down recently as ISI chief, is reportedly involved in the establishment of Bol television channel. Lt. Gen. Shuja Pasha, another former ISI chief, was involved in directing the recent protests led by Imran Khan and Tahirul Qadri. Lt. Gen. Hamid Gul, on whose watch Al-Qaeda was established in Peshawar in 1988, remains involved with the ISI. Many times, journalists who went to meet Gul were told that he had gone to the GHQ, the general headquarters of Pakistan Army.

    The use of jihadists in the Kargil War and 26/11 was planned when General Pervez Musharraf was in command, who would later elevate the first ISI chief to the post of army chief, Gen. Ashfaq Kayani.

    To Indians, the ISI's involvement in the 26/11 attacks is clear. To the world, the 9/11 attacks are blamed on Al-Qaeda, as it is considered undiplomatic to accuse nation-states of such involvement without police-like evidence.

    Even if you look before the 9/11 attacks, an ISI connection is evident. It was relatively a short period from 1988 when Al-Qaeda was formed to 1993, when the CIA headquarters at Langley and World Trade Center (WTC) were first attacked. Al-Qaeda wasn't at peak then, and the 1993 attacks could not have been carried out without some form of state support, especially since footprints led back to Islamabad.

    An excessive focus on footmen involved in specific jihadist attacks helps the ISI to escape global attention for its role in 1993 attacks on WTC and Langley, or in 9/11 and 26/11 attacks. As India remembers the Mumbai attacks this Wednesday, the jihadist threats are multiplying.

    The following recent developments appear to originate from a concerted strategy from the ISI. First, the AQIS was established to target India. Second, Punjabi Taliban chief Asmatullah Muawiya announced ceasefire against Pakistan, vowing to fight in Afghanistan. Third, Pakistani media reported that Muawiya joined hands with the Haqqani Network, which is part of the Afghan Taliban. Fourth, Pakistan's national security advisor Sartaj Aziz commented that terrorist groups that are not dangerous to Pakistan must not be targeted. Fifth, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif joined this ISI strategy when he announced that Pakistan will talk first with Kashmiri secessionists before any dialogue with India.

    The year 2014 is effectively 1988 when Al-Qaeda was formed and ISI's control of Pakistan's foreign policy was total.

    The views expressed in the above article are that of Mr. Tufail Ahmad, an independent columnist, a former BBC Urdu Service journalist, and Director of the South Asia Studies Project at the Middle East Media Research Institute in Washington D.C. By Tufail Ahmad (ANI)
     
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    arnabmit Homo Communis Indus Senior Member

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    Remember

    166 - DEAD

    293 - INJURED

    ‎Never Forget

    ‪Never Forgive

    and

    ‪Remember Our Heroes‬: Martyrs Maj Sandeep, Karkare, Salaskar, Kamte, Omble and others...
     
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    arnabmit Homo Communis Indus Senior Member

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    http://goldenboy.blog.com/2009/08/12/chaitanya-kunte-against-ndtv/

    This is the original Piece written by Chyetanya Kunte but later on he had to retract because of legal pressure from NDTV. I have posted it here for posterity & preservation since Google Cache may clear it anytime. (http://cuntradiktion.blogspot.com/2009/02/chyetanya-kuntes-original-blog-post.html)

    Shoddy journalism

    Appalling journalism. Absolute blasphemy! As I watch the news from home, I am dumbfounded to see Barkha Dutt of NDTV break every rule of ethical journalism in reporting the Mumbai mayhem.

    Take a couple of instances for example:
    In one instance she asks a husband about his wife being stuck, or held as a hostage. The poor guy adds in the end about where she was last hiding. Aired! My dear friends with AK-47s, our national news is helping you. Go get those still in. And be sure to thank NDTV for not censoring this bit of information.

    In another instance, a General sort of suggests that there were no hostages in Oberoi Trident. (Clever.) Then, our heroine of revelations calls the head of Oberoi, and the idiot confirms a possibility of 100 or more people still in the building. Hello! Guys with guns, you’ve got more goats to slay. But before you do, you’ve got to love NDTV and more precisely Ms. Dutt. She’s your official intelligence from Ground zero.

    You do not need to be a journalist to understand the basic premise of ethics, which starts with protecting victims first; and that is done by avoiding key information from being aired publicly—such as but not limited to revealing the number of possible people still in, the hideouts of hostages and people stuck in buildings.

    Imagine you’re one of those sorry souls holed-up in one of those bathrooms, or kitchens. A journalist pulls your kin outside and asks about your last contact on national television, and other prying details. In a bout of emotion, if they happen to reveal more details, you are sure going to hell. Remember these are hotels, where in all likelihood, every room has a television. All a terrorist needs to do is listen to Ms. Barkha Dutt’s latest achievement of extracting information from your relative, based on your last phone-call or SMS. And you’re shafted—courtesy NDTV.1
    If the terrorists don’t manage to shove you in to your private hell, the journalists on national television will certainly help you get there. One of the criticisms about Barkha Dutt on Wikipedia reads thus:

    During the Kargil conflict, Indian Army sources repeatedly complained to her channel that she was giving away locations in her broadcasts, thus causing Indian casualties.
    Looks like the idiot journalist has not learned anything since then. I join a number of bloggers pleading her to shut the fâ‹…â‹…â‹… up.
    Update: In fact, I am willing to believe that Hemant Karkare died because these channels showed him prepare (wear helmet, wear bullet-proof vest.) in excruciating detail live on television. And they in turn targeted him where he was unprotected. The brave officer succumbed to bullets in the neck.

    Update 2 [28.Nov.2300hrs]: Better sense appears to have prevailed in the latter half of today—either willfully, or by Government coercion2, and Live broadcasts are now being limited to non-action zones. Telecast of action troops and strategy is now not being aired live. Thank goodness for that.
    Update 3 [30.Nov.1900hrs]: DNA India reports about a UK couple ask media to report carefully:
    The terrorists were watching CNN and they came down from where they were in a lift after hearing about us on TV.
    — Lynne Shaw in an interview.
    1. Oh, they have a lame excuse pronouncing that the television connections in the hotel has been cut, and therefore it is okay to broadcast. Like hell!
    2. I’m thinking coercion, since Government has just denied renewing CNN’s rights to air video today; must’ve have surely worked as a rude warning to the Indian domestic channels
     
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    Salute to those who died fighting Pakistani fanatic dogs trained by their thug military.

    They came during night time like sneaky snakes enchanting name of some fictional god of their's, killed innocent kids and defenseless civilians eating dinner, used their bodies to delay their own culling but ended up dead being bastards rotting in mortuaries, without mourning father or a mother or the state they belong to.

    I salute my motherland India who stands proud in her shining armor, riding chariot of fearless lions that her enemies are cowards because her sons are brave.
     
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    watch 16.44 onwards



    Modi reveals (Mumbai Police commissioner also said) 15 Indians (Of course local Muslims) supported those terrorists, why still not even one person arrested or prosecuted. JAI HO SICKULARISM

    Who pressurized CONgi govt not to reveal their names,is this called Judiciary&Rule of law.I always feels Terrorist Muslims are not as dangerous as Moderate Muslims.Terrorists are in war with us directly,we can face them(99.8%) but not those mofo who stayed with us and stab us behind,start RANDI RONA and discrimination on daily basis :frusty:
     
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    What else can you expect from Pakis?

    Jundal's arrest exposes Pak's agenda of turning 26/11 into an Indian conspiracy : Cover Story - India Today

     
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    arnabmit Homo Communis Indus Senior Member

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    Question arises.

    What lesson we have learnt?

    does our security forces ready for these type of mis- adventure?

    does our forces fully equipped with those state of art weapons and accessories

    what we have done to pin down Pakistan?

    they are still laughing


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    Has our politician took care of families of fallen heors?

    Has compensation reached them??/
     
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    Six years after 26/11, Pakistan has not changed its ways - Hindustan Times

    As India marks the sixth anniversary of the 26/11 Mumbai attacks, the jihadist threat from Pakistan is becoming more menacing. Union home minister Rajnath Singh recently said, “Terrorism in India is fully Pakistan-sponsored. Pakistan says non-State actors are involved. But is the ISI a non-State actor?”

    As the United States ended its Afghan mission in 1989, the ISI stepped up its jihadist mission in Kashmir. Once again, as the US leaves Afghanistan, the ISI senses victory. The jihadist groups’ realignment is being engineered to advance the ISI’s post-2014 strategy. From 2013 a new terror group, Ansar ut Tawheed Fi Bilad Al Hind (Supporters of Monotheism in India), has been releasing videos showing a dozen Indians undergoing training.

    A new terror group — Jamaat Ansarut Tawheed Wal Jihad Fi Kashmir (Supporters of Islamic Monotheism and Jihad in Kashmir) — has also emerged in Kashmir. After the recent floods, it offered to host al Qaeda militants. In September al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri announced the birth of the Al Qaeda in the Indian Subcontinent (AQIS), whose goal is to “crush the artificial borders established by the English occupiers to divide the Muslims”.

    The AQIS’ establishment seems to be configured to the ISI’s post-2014 strategy. Both al Qaeda and the ISI advocate an Islamic Caliphate, with the only difference being that the ISI wants Pakistan to be the leader of such a regime. Although the Pakistan army carried out an operation in North Waziristan, the militants of the Haqqani Network — described by US Admiral Mike Mullen as the ISI’s “veritable arm” — were let off. A powerful faction under commander Khan Saeed Sajna of the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan agreed to work with the ISI.

    Pakistan also freed militants Izhar Afzal, Yousaf Noorullah and Abu Bakr in exchange for a kidnapped vice chancellor. Besides, Punjabi Taliban chief Asmatullah Muawiya announced a ceasefire against Pakistan, agreeing to advance the ISI’s goal in Afghanistan. Later reports revealed that he would work with the Haqqani Network of the Afghan Taliban. Although Pakistan conducts military operations in the tribal region, it protects jihadist groups’ headquarters in Muzaffarabad, Muridke and Bahawalpur.

    It hides Mullah Omar, as it protected Osama bin Laden. Fearing for their life, Pakistani scribes cannot write about the ISI’s relationship with al Qaeda, which was formed on the watch of the ISI in 1988. The September 6 attack on the Karachi Naval Dockyard mirrors the 9/11 and 26/11 attacks.

    In both cases, they used the GPS to guide planes and boats to reach targets. The Karachi attack was to hijack the PNS Zulfiqar to attack American and Indian warships.

    The Wagah border attack was in consonance with the AQIS’ stated objective to ‘erase’ borders in South Asia. Three militant groups cooperated in this attack. The Burdwan explosions revealed that the Jamaatul Mujahideen Bangladesh could have been planning the assassination of Bangladeshi PM Sheikh Hasina from India, a perfect ISI plan to force India to stop blaming Pakistan for 26/11 and other attacks. Pakistan’s civilian leaders appear to be allying with the ISI’s post-2014 strategy.

    Pakistan’s national security adviser Sartaj Aziz said recently that Islamabad must not target jihadist organisations that do not pose a threat to Pakistan. Pakistan’s Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif recently joined the chorus when he announced that Pakistan will meet Kashmiri separatist leaders before holding any dialogue with India. An entirely different category of self-radicalising Indian jihadists has gone to Syria and Iraq to work with the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS).
    Indian democracy can withstand this radicalisation. But the ISIS appears to be gaining a foothold in Pakistan and sometime later some of its militants will be co-opted by the ISI.
     
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    Never forget, never forgive. :salute:

    Also, i'd like to take the time to remind everyone; check out what some of our eminent seculars were up to:
    Eminent Sickular ©hutiyas of India releasing a book 26/11 - An RSS Conspiracy [2010][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
     
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    Surprised? - Indian Express
    Arun Shourie : Mon Dec 01 2008, 05:45 hrs

    Our coastal areas are coming under increased threat from terrorist groups, which have decided to use the sea route to infiltrate into India. They also plan to induct arms and ammunition through the sea routes" — that is Shivraj Patil addressing the directors general and inspectors general of police in November 2006. "We understand they (the terrorists) have been collecting information regarding location of various refineries on or near the Indian coastline... Some Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) operatives are also being trained specifically for sabotage of oil installations. There are plans to occupy some uninhabited islands off the country's coastline to use them as bases for launching operations on the Indian coast..."
    That was the ever-alert home minister in November 2006. The minister of defence has been no less alert. On March 9 2007, he was asked in the Lok Sabha, whether "the intelligence agencies have warned about the possibility of terrorists trying to infiltrate through the sea route or trying to target our offshore installations?" He answered, "Yes, sir. There are reports about terrorists of various tanzeems being imparted training and likelihood of their infiltration through sea routes..." He was asked whether "maritime terrorism, gun-running, drug-trafficking and piracy are major threats that India is facing from the sea borders of the country?" His answer? "Yes, sir."

    On May 9 2007, the home minister was asked in the Rajya Sabha, whether "it is a fact that there are strong apprehensions of terrorist threats to the country through the sea route?" "As per available reports," he answered, "Pak based terrorist groups, particularly LeT, have been exploring possibilities of induction of manpower and terrorist hardware through the sea route..." On December 8, 2007, the National Security Adviser, M.K. Narayanan, was educating the world at the 4th Regional Security Summit organised by the International Institute of Strategic Studies, the Manama Dialogue. "According to our intelligence reports," he confided to the assembled sheikhs and experts, "there are now certain new schools that are now being established on the Pakistan-Afghanistan border, which now specialise in the training of an international brigade of terrorists to fight in many climes. According to our information, recruits from 14 to 15 countries have been identified as amongst the trainees there... Training has become extremely rigorous — it is almost frightening in nature... Studies are being carried out about important targets, with regard to vulnerability, accessibility, poor security, absence of proper counter-terrorism measures, etc. The sea route, in particular, is becoming the chosen route for carrying out many attacks, even on land. References to this are to be found replete in current terrorist literature." "Given India's experience in dealing with terrorism," he added, "I would like to therefore sound a note of warning, that there is no scope for complacency..."

    On March 11, 2008, A.K. Antony addressed the "International Maritime Search and Rescue Conference," in Delhi. He warned the delegates of "dangers of terror attacks from the sea in the region." In the course of his address, Antony admitted that the Coast Guard faces shortage of manpower as well as hardware. But "necessary steps are being taken to strengthen the search and rescue infrastructure of the Indian Coast Guard..." On November 13, 2008, just a fortnight before the assaults at Mumbai, Manmohan Singh warned the BIMSTEC summit, "Terrorism and threats from the sea continue to challenge the authority of the state..."

    By now it was time for Shivraj Patil to address yet another meeting of the DGs and IGs of Police. Thus on November 22, 2008, that is literally on the eve of the attacks in Mumbai, he told the police chiefs, "To control terrorism in the hinterland, we have to see that infiltration of terrorists from other countries does not take place through the sea routes and through the borders between India and friendly countries. The coastlines also have to be guarded through Navy, Coast Guard and coastal police. The states' special branches and the CID should identify the persons forming part of the sleeper cells and lodging in cities and towns and studying in educational institutions and working in industries and professions..."

    And four days later, the terrorists, using the exact same sea route, do the exact same thing that these worthies have been warning others about. Are they consultants to government or ones running the government? Is their job to issue warnings to others or to see that the warnings are acted upon? Warning given, the job is done. But that is the fate of warnings in this system. After all, that very sea route was used to smuggle explosives for the blasts across Bombay in 1993. Were those blasts not warning enough?

    Seven years later —in 2000 — the warning and lesson were made explicit yet again. Four task forces were set up in the wake of the Kargil war. The one on border management warned, "The long coastline with its inadequate policing makes it easy to land arms and explosives at isolated spots on the coast." It recalled that this is exactly how explosives were smuggled into Maharashtra in 1993. "The situation, if anything, has worsened over the years with the activities of the ISI becoming more widespread along the coast particularly by extension into the coast of Kerala... Such coastal areas must be particularly kept under surveillance."

    There is space here to cite just one example. The task force pointed out that the ISI had started using the Lakshadweep archipelago as a major staging point for smuggling arms and personnel into India. The agency used smugglers and their networks — like Dawood Ibrahim and his tentacles — and their routes for doing so. These dons and their networks were given shelter and support in return for helping the agency with its operations against India.

    Now, Lakhsdweep has 36 islands. Ten of these are inhabited. Talking of one of these islands — Suheli — the task force pointed out that, sea vessels of smugglers apart, "there have been instances of twin rotor helicopters (of the kind used by militaries) landing at Suheli Island and spotting of unidentified helicopters flying over the waters around the islands..." And what were we doing? "Intelligence gathering in the islands," the task force recorded, "is carried out by one inspector, one sub inspector, one head constable and three constables working in the special branch at Kavaratti" — just one of the 36 islands. "Intelligence gathering in all other islands is carried out by one head constable/constable who reports to the OIC (the officer in charge) of the police station who in turn passes it on to the inspector (special branch) at Kavaratti." Please read that again: 36 islands; one inspector, one sub inspector, one head constable and three constables on the main island; and one head constable/constable for all the remaining 35 islands...

    What has happened since, what is the position today, I ask the person who has held the highest posts in intelligence. Exactly what it was then, he says, with one difference. With the upgradation of all posts, the inspector (special branch) at Kavaratti is now designated not as officer in charge, but as joint assistant director or deputy central intelligence officer depending on his cadre. As for the other recommendations — patrolling, setting up sensors, and a host of others things are as they were.

    And we are surprised!

    I can multiply such examples by the score at no notice at all. Recalling just one thing will be sufficient. When, during a debate on national security in the Rajya Sabha, I began citing such passages from the report of this task force, shouts went up from the Congress, "But this is a secret report... How has he got it?... How is he citing it?..." Shivraj Patil remained his composed self, eventually chiding me with the sagacity which even terrorists have by now come to associate with him.

    Things to do. First, act on recommendations that are made by committees you set up. Second, that will not happen unless we send a better type into legislatures and, thence, to governments. When we select leaders who treat the police as their private army; when we select leaders for whom investigating agencies are instruments to fix rivals or let off allies, don't expect the police and agencies to suddenly turn around and forestall terrorists.

    Third, remember that little can be achieved unless every aspect of governance, is brought up to par. You can't have a first-rate commando force and a third rate magistracy. You can't have defence and intelligence personnel who will nab terrorists and courts that will let them off, or, better still, enable them to live off the treasury as state guests for years. And that excellence must reach down to that "head constable/constable" level. When K.P.S. Gill reconquered Punjab for the country, he did so by strengthening and invigorating the local thana.

    Fourth, that is only one part of the explanation. A weakened and confused society explains as much — and the responsibility lies as much with those who have dissipated national resolve, who have made nationalism a dirty word. That set includes the media as much as politicians. Sixty-seventy thousand killed by terrorism and we are still debating whether we should have a federal investigating agency. Sixty-seventy thousand killed by terrorists and we are still debating whether we should have a special law to bring them to book.

    Of course, we must have the agency. Of course, we must have the sternest law in the world. But having the law is not enough. We must enforce it. One side of the picture is that, to pander to its vote bank among Muslims, the government has been withholding sanction to the law passed by the Gujarat assembly — even though that law is the exact replica of the law that its own party's government has passed in adjacent Maharashtra. The other side is that, as the Maharashtra government does not use the law it has, those who will give shelter and support to terrorists give them with abandon — you just have to think of the quantum of weapons that the terrorists brought in; the detailed local knowledge they had — of the spot at which to land their boats, of the location of the building in which Jews and Israelis were staying, of the insides of the hotels, to see that they could not have executed their plans without the most extensive local help, help given over months.

    And enforcing the law means carrying out sentences that the law provides. The parliament of India is attacked, guards are killed; one of the killers is tried and convicted, the sentence is confirmed by the Supreme Court, and, eight years after the assault, his "papers are still being processed," indeed there are signature campaigns against executing the sentence. Given these circumstances, the best thing for a terrorist to succeed in his mission, and then get caught. He will get the best lawyers to defend him. He will get judges who are ever so solicitous about his rights, ever so finicky about procedures. And, of course, he will get activists to shoot off press statements on his behalf. Lawyers better, judges more solicitous, activists more articulate and better networked than any in his own country.

    But for any of this to happen, the society has to be clear in its mind. This is, it has for 20 years been, war. It can be won only by overwhelming the adversary — not by running after the terrorist, as K.P.S. Gill says, but by out-running him, indeed by over-running him. Not an eye for an eye. For an eye, both eyes. Not a tooth for a tooth. For a tooth, the whole jaw. Human rights? Yes, we will respect the human rights of the terrorists and their sponsors and their local supporters to the extent that they respect the human rights of our people.

    Finally, have a clear realisation of the condition of the society and state of Pakistan. Unless you come across evidence that the nature of the state and society of Pakistan has changed, it is idiotic to put faith in the profession of this ruler or that. Remember Musharraf's "Main naya dil leyke aayaa hun"? Taliban and Al Qaeda are not the cause of the state of Pakistan. They are the result of the Talibanisation of Pakistani society and state.

    Where do you think, and by whom do you think are the teachers instructed to ensure that students from class 1 onwards "recognise the importance of jihad"; to ensure that they "must be aware of the blessings of jihad"; to ensure that they "create yearning for jihad in his heart"; to ensure that they develop "love and aspiration for jihad, tabligh, shahadat, sacrifice, ghazi, shaheed"? Where do you think, and by whom are teachers instructed to ensure that students from kindergarten onwards learn to "make speeches on jihad and shahadat", and are "judged on their spirit while making speeches on jihad"? Do you think these are instructions issued by the Islamic fundamentalists to maulvis in madrasas? They are instructions given by the government of Pakistan through official circulars to principals and teachers in government schools of Pakistan.

    You didn't know that? Exactly. That is a large part of the problem. You will find reams of these and other facts in the 2002 report edited by Pakistani academics, A.H. Nayyar and Ahmed Salim, and published by the Sustainable Development Institute, Islamabad, 'The Subtle Subversion: The state of curricula and textbooks in Pakistan, Urdu, English, Social Studies and Civics'. Get on to the Internet, download and read the report from Sustainable Development Policy Institute (SDPI). Here is a part of the problem that you can solve by yourself.

    As for the rest of the problem,as we can no longer rely on Shivraj Patil, we are compelled to continue to rely on the one who has been for the government as a whole, what Shivraj Patil has been for the home ministry — that is, the prime minister, Manmohan Singh.
     
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    Another year and no solid result.
     
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4KFWDzeG7g

    Towards the end, something I didnt know about, David headley himself went out on his last trip and bought threads at the siddhivinayak temple, to leave clues about it being "hindu terror".
    immediately after the attack Home minister Shinde follows the same line, and also the infamous book later. It just seems like too much of a coincidence, but no action has been taken whatsoever, angers me so much that the people who supposed to be in charge of protection stick the knife into society further and twist in, disgusting creatures:mad:
     
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    26/11 was one of the reasons why DFI was created.

    Post 26/11 patriotic Indians found themselves without a place on the internet. Indian foras were being hacked/DDOSd left, right and centre. Non-Indian fora were not allowing discussions on 26/11 for fear of being DDOS'd.

    In Feb 2009 DFI was dedicated as an online platform for all patriotic Indians.
     
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    Mumbai locals helped us, terrorist tells cops

    MUMBAI Did some Mumbai locals provide support to the Pakistani terrorists? Azam Amir Kasab, the only Pakistani terrorist nabbed alive, has revealed names and addresses of at least five people from the city who helped the terror operation.Sources said that help like, providing shelter, taking them around and showing places, passing information on police stations and nakabandhis were given by these locals.
    Joint commissioner of police (crime) Rakesh Maria said,"We suspect there could be local assistants but it is subject to verification. It will be very premature to comment on this at this stage as our investigations is going on.''

    Kasab has told police that they were sent with a specific mission of targeting Israelis to avenge atrocities on Palestinians. This was why they targetted Nariman House, a complex meant for Israelis. Sources said Kasab's colleagues killed in the operation had stayed in Nariman House earlier.

    "They have stayed in Nariman house on rental basis identifying themselves as Malaysian students.'' said a source. Police are trying to find out how Nariman House rooms were given to non-Jews. Police has taken all the records books of for verification. The second target was the CST railway station because casualties would be high.

    Crime branch has also recovered several fake identity and credit cards from the belongings of dead terrorists. "All the cards are in different names and of different banks. Now we are at least trying to figure out how they procured credit cards from various banks.'' said Maria. The recovery of so many cards with different names have led Mumbai police to suspect the involvement of ISI.

    Though Maria maintained only 10 terrorists had sneaked in, the two blasts in taxis in Wadi Bunder and Vile Parle have led the police to believe there could be possibility of the presence of another two or more terrorists in the city.

    Mumbai locals helped us, terrorist tells cops - The Times of India
    SICKularism jindabad there is no Indian muslim name revealed/prosecuted even after 6yrs
     

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