The J-11D Surprise (and SU-35) : China Upgrades Russian Flanker Fighters On Its Own

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  1. Antam1505

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    The J-11D Surprise: China Upgrades Russian Flanker Fighters On Its Own
    J-11D's First Flight

    By Jeffrey Lin and P.W. Singer Posted May 4, 2015
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    The J-11D had its first flight on April 29, 2015 at a SAC airfield. It's most notable feature is its AESA radar, which is obvious thanks to its upwardly canted radar dome.

    In a surprise development, the J-11D "D1101" prototype flew its first flight on April 29, 2015. The J-11D is the latest in Shenyang Aircraft Corporation (SAC)'s family fighters licensed and modified from the Russian Sukhoi Su-27 "Flanker." SAC has built well over 200 Su-27 and J-11s, such as the licensed produced J-11A and indigenously upgraded J-11B, which had better engines and radar, and a lighter airframe. It is possible that improvements from other Chinese Flanker variants, like the J-15 carrier fighter and J-16 strike fighter, have been applied to the J-11D.
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    The J-11D Flanker fighter is the latest Flanker variant, and with an AESA radar, may be even more advanced that its Russian counterpart, the Su-35.

    The J-11D's most noticeable upgrade is an upwardly canted radar dome, which carries an Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radar, as well as further use of composites and stealth coatings in the fuselage to reduce weight. The fighter's Infrared Search and Tracking (IRST) pod has been relocated starboard of the cockpit, to accommodate a retractable inflight refueling (IFR) probe. The J-11D is also believed to have improved weapons hardpoints to carry the latest Chinese weapons, such as the PL-10 air to air missile, long range PL-21 missile and YJ-12 antiship missile.
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    Chinese AESA

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    China's defense industry has become very proficient at building AESA radars, such as those found on the KJ-2000 AEW&C aircraft, Type 052C destroyer, HQ-9 SAM and these fighter AESA radars. The middle one, which is built for the J-16 strike fighter, has 1760 transmit/receive elements. The J-11D's radar is likely to be an improved model f the J-16's AESA radar, optimized for air to air combat.

    The J-11D's upgrades allow it to take full advantage of new PLAAF capabilities, and in turn, extend those capabilities further. For example, the IFR probe would enable aerial refueling from an Il-78 tanker, extending both the aerial patrol time and range of the fighter. The AESA radar offers key advantages over older, conventionally scanned radar; it's more resistant against electronic jamming, offers higher resolution when targetting stealthy aircraft, and has greater range. The J-11D's datalinks would enable it to share its radar data with other Chinese aircraft and ships. The J-11D's greater weapons payload would include long range weapons that could then be guided by other systems with longer ranged sensors, like the KJ-500 airborne early warning radar plane.
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    Divine Eagle Hunts

    Hongjian via China Defense Forum

    The offensive applications of the Divine Eagle are demonstrated here, as two Divine Eagles mark out not just the enemy aircraft carrier, but also its escorting warships and aviation wing, while vectoring friendly aircraft and ships into combat. The J-11D's radar and datalink would enable the fighter to transmit its radar data to other Chinese aircraft, robots and ships as part of integrated combat operations.

    The J-11D's first flight is especially interesting given persistent rumors about impending Chinese purchases of the Su-35, the most modern Russian Flanker model. Ironically, the Su-35 uses a passive electronically scanned array (PESA) radar, which is an older and generally less flexible technology. Further flights like this indicate a shift is at hand, as advancing Chinese technology might be killing the Su-35's China sale chances.
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    Chinese "AESA" looks very familiar to the "AESA" we had since 1980s.

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    Only in your fantasy .. maybe :laugh: :lol:

    Btw it seems you dont understand about AESA right?
     
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    Riiiiiiiiiiight............

    I love that you don't have any self esteem whatsoever and that you like to get humiliated, repeatedly.:pound::pound::pound::pound::pound:

    I know that you are too stupid to realize, but look carefully, no interrogators.

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    And now we'll take a look at pulse Doppler radars or MMRs.

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    You talked like imbecile.

    Whats your point? This is discussion forum not riddle forum to guess your fantasy


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    What do you intend to argue??

    You should be able to express your own argument!

    Not just showing picture and tell someone to see the picture and expect the one to guess your fantasy.
     
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    What do you intend to say with that picture? that you understand AESA? That chinese AESA seems different? That chinese AESA seems like your PESA? or what?

    It seems you have difficulties to express your idea, then get angry and nagging - just like imbecile or retarded.

    Get calm, try to construct argument and tell me your objection - I am listening.

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    As usual the retard failed to see that no other AESA in the world have interrogators as IFF function is built in the radar. :clap2::clap2::clap2:

    Just like there no more black and white TVs, you moron.

    Where did I mention PESA? Get your head out of your ass and learn to read you stupid fuck?

    I used pictures to show the difference between AESA and Pulse Dopler radars but to no avail. You are too retarded to even understand pictures and come to a conclusion despite the fact I added the caption "no interrogators."

    Now I get it, you are here to get your daily dose of humiliation from me. There you go, have at it and there's more where it came from so do not hesitate to ask for more.

    I am nice that way.:megusta::megusta::megusta:



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    can we have the funny part without the expletives
     
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    Oh come on. Expletives make it more funny.
     
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    It just ends into a slanging match.
    there is chance of very good discussion, let it continue.
     
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    My humble request that you do not ruin my already screwed up Monday.

    Also, our "Indonesian" friend and his thirst for humiliation is counting on you. :pound:
     
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    you are a senior member, there are many ways in which you can have fun.
     
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    Come on man, I am doing a "punya ka kaam" here. "Pyase ki pyass bujhana".
     
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    Such an shameless idiot!!!! As usual you keep demonstrating idiocy. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

    The JAS 39E will have three Selex-ES sensors. The Raven ES-05 active, electronically scanned array radar (AESA), developed by the company's Edinburgh unit, will be the first production AESA to be mounted on a “repositioner,” a rotating mount that gives the radar a ±100-deg. field of view around the nose. The Skyward-G infrared search and track (IRST) system (from Nebbiano, Italy) is based on experience with the Eurofighter Typhoon's Pirate IRST and Selex-developed land- and sea-based IRSTs. The fighter also has a new identification friend-or-foe (IFF) system with three electronically steerable antenna arrays, which matches the radar's range and field of view.

    http://aviationweek.com/awin/gripen-sensors-claim-counter-stealth-performance


    You better learn about AESA before outbursting idiocy and ignorance.

    There is nothing wrong to put IFF dipole on the AESA radar. Prove it if it is wrong.

    Airbus Military has signed an agreement with IAI/ELTA in June 2011 at the Le Bourget Airshow, according to which IAI/ELTA will provide the primary sensor for the AEW&C, the 4th Generation Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) Radar with integrated IFF. This radar will be fitted into a six metre / 19 ft 18 in diameter rotodome mounted onto the C295.
    http://militaryaircraft-airbusds.com/InnovationAndTechnology/AEW.aspx



    I enjoy watching you HUMILIATING YOUR SELF in this Forum.

    Now I get it, you are here to get your daily dose of humiliation from me. There you go, have at it and there's more where it came from so do not hesitate to ask for more.

    :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:



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    You are idiot .. there is nothing wrong integrating IFF with AESA.

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    Again the blind dumb bitch cannot understand the difference between IFF interrogators and inbuilt IFF function in an AESA.

    How many times do a cunt like yourself has to be humiliated to understand that AESA do not have interrogators?

    Below is the radar you mentioned,can you see the interrogators, you giant turd?

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    Interrogators asshole, interrogators. AESA don't have them.
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    MY MY repeating my words shows your desperation and your lack of wit and intelligence.

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    Yea but your dumb outburst has no intelligence at all.

    I've told you there is nothing wrong to put IFF dipole on the AESA radar.

    Now explain me why cant AESA have IFF interrogator ??
     
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