"The Gun That Booms Silently"

[LETHALFORCE]

We're talking about people who lack the basic rights of statehood and basic human rights that we all take for granted. At least the Pakis have a state...

All Palestinians want at this point is the 2-state solution that Israeli right-wingers are currently trying to sabotage at any cost. Colonialism at it's finest.

Israelis will not accept anything that goes against their interests. Why should
they when they have the backing of the bigger powers? Your historical precedence
argument is not wrong but Unfortunately historical precedence does not create
the borders. If this were the case there would probably be 7-8 countries in all
of Asia.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

The British didn't create Israel, the UN decided on the two-state solution because England wanted nothing to do with it.

This was only because British wars with the Ottomans empire. The British,French
and to a large part Turkey were the major players in creating Israel. The acceptance
of Israel came after the seal of approval was more or less received from Turkey in 1949.

 

[Galaxy]

This is high time, All or majority of Islamic nation with combined forces should attack Israel. Whoever wins, will decide the future of Palestine. There is no other solution.

However, in 1967 - Israel defeated Combined forces of Egypt, Syria, Jordan and forces from Pakistan, Algeria, Kuwait, KSA, Iraq, Sudan, Libya, Tunisia, Morocco, etc. 50,000 troops of Israel was so strong that 1 Million forces surrendered in just 6 Days that also way back in 1967. Biggest humiliating defeat after WW2.

Six-Day-War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Since, They cannot defeat Israel (Conventional or Nuclear). Hence, Terrorism!!

 

[Son of Govinda]

Israelis will not accept anything that goes against their interests. Why should
they when they have the backing of the bigger powers? Your historical precedence
argument is not wrong but Unfortunately historical precedence does not create
the borders. If this were the case there would probably be 7-8 countries in all
of Asia.

It's not my argument. It's the Zionists that try using that argument that "Palestinians never existed" "Jews were here first" people like me and civ just beat them at their own game.

"Israel will not accept anything that goes against their interests"

Could the same not be said of the English empire when they were eventually forced to relinquish their rights to India? Just because it goes against one state's interests does not make it wrong.

 

[Son of Govinda]

This is high time, All or majority of Islamic nation with combined forces should attack Israel. Whoever wins, will decide the future of Palestine. There is no other solution.

However, in 1967 - Israel defeated Combined forces of Egypt, Syria, Jordan and forces from Pakistan, Algeria, Kuwait, KSA, Iraq, Sudan, Libya, Tunisia, Morocco, etc. 50,000 troops of Israel was so strong that 1 Million forces surrendered in just 6 Days that also way back in 1967. Biggest humiliating defeat after WW2.

Six-Day-War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"After the 1956 Suez Crisis, Egypt agreed to the stationing of a United Nations Emergency Force (UNEF) in the Sinai to ensure all parties would comply with the 1949 Armistice Agreements.[11][12][13] In the following years there were numerous minor border clashes between Israel and its Arab neighbors, particularly Syria. In early November, 1966, Syria signed a mutual defense agreement with Egypt.[14] Soon thereafter, in response to Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) guerilla activity,[15][16] including a mine attack that left three dead,[17] the Israeli Defense Force (IDF) attacked the city of as-Samu in the Jordanian-occupied West Bank.[18] Jordanian units that engaged the Israelis were quickly beaten back.[19] King Hussein of Jordan criticized Egyptian President Gamal Abdel Nasser for failing to come to Jordan's aid, and "hiding behind UNEF skirts".[20][21]
In May 1967, Nasser received false reports from the Soviet Union that Israel was massing on the Syrian border.[22] Nasser began massing his troops in the Sinai Peninsula on Israel's border (May 16), expelled the UNEF force from Gaza and Sinai (May 19), and took up UNEF positions at Sharm el-Sheikh, overlooking the Straits of Tiran.[23][24] UN Secretary-General U Thant proposed that the UNEF force be redeployed on the Israeli side of the border, but this was rejected by Israel despite U.S. pressure.[25] Israel reiterated declarations made in 1957 that any closure of the Straits would be considered an act of war, or a justification for war.[26][27] Nasser declared the Straits closed to Israeli shipping on May. 22–23. On May 27, he stated "Our basic objective will be the destruction of Israel. The Arab people want to fight."[28] On May 30, Jordan and Egypt signed a defense pact. The following day, at Jordan's invitation, the Iraqi army began deploying troops and armored units in Jordan.[29] They were later reinforced by an Egyptian contingent. On June 1, Israel formed a National Unity Government by widening its cabinet, and on June 4 the decision was made to go to war. The next morning, Israel launched Operation Focus, a large-scale surprise air strike that was the opening of the Six-Day War."

Courtesy of your own link

 

[Galaxy]

^^ Ultimately, Israel won and combined Islamic forces lost!

BTW, You should be ashamed of yourself who is not using his own country flag!!

Change your flag, then will reply in more appropriate way!

 

[Yusuf]

^^ Ultimately, Israel won and combined Islamic forces lost!

BTW, You should be ashamed of yourself who is not using his own country flag!!

Change your flag, then will reply in more appropriate way!

Arab forces, not Islamic.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

It's not my argument. It's the Zionists that try using that argument that "Palestinians never existed" "Jews were here first" people like me and civ just beat them at their own game.

"Israel will not accept anything that goes against their interests"

Could the same not be said of the English empire when they were eventually forced to relinquish their rights to India? Just because it goes against one state's interests does not make it wrong.

I don't think all Israelis take such a extreme view. This could be the case in any religion
where extremist use religion for political gain. You cannot make it an analogy to the Indian
indepence for many reasons I will give 2 main reasons:

1) Indian independence for the most part was NON-VIOLENT
2) Majority of Hindus and Muslims did not want to separate on the basis of religion
For the most part hindus always coexisted with muslims and did not wish to separate
from muslims who upto the partition were always Indian Citizens/ British citizens.

 

[Son of Govinda]

This was only because British wars with the Ottomans empire. The British,French
and to a large part Turkey were the major players in creating Israel. The acceptance
of Israel came after the seal of approval was more or less received from Turkey in 1949.

Right, and that's cool and everything, but none of that ever gave Israel the right to hinder the Palestinians right to statehood, and all of it clearly stated that many parts of Palestine that Israel is now settling are forbidden from being settled/annexed by Israel.

 

[Galaxy]

Arab forces, no Islamic.

Well Pakistan was also part of it.

And all Arab countries are also Islamic countries!

 

[Yusuf]

Well Pakistan was also part of it.

And all Arab countries are also Islamic countries!

Arab and wannabe Arabs vs Israel.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Well Pakistan was also part of it.

And all Arab countries are also Islamic countries!

This is not true many islamic countries are not Arab countries Iran,Pakistan Indonesia etc..

 

[Galaxy]

This is not true many islamic countries are not Arab countries Iran,Pakistan Indonesia etc..

True but all Arab countries are Islamic countries. In addition, Pakistan was part of that combined forces too.

 

[KS]

What? Do some reading on the name 'Palestinian' and where it comes from.

I very well know of that Philistine thing.

Only that the narrative differs depending on who is telling it.

Palestine vs. Israel as the Name of the Holy Land

A similar situation applies to the land of the Philistines. Today, the very land area occupied by the Palestinian peoples, is the same land which the Philistines occupied in Old Testament times. The Palestinians are a mixed, largely Arab people, few if any of whom are likely to be descended from the 'sea peoples' of the Old Testament. Because of their position living alongside the Jews, who have returned to their land in accordance with the Old Testament prophecies, they are Israel's enemies.

http://www.biblebasics.co.uk/natcit/philist.htm

Islamists and palestinians apologists try to link up the term Palestine [which was a convenient term to be used for the Arab tribes around Levant for political purpose] withthe biblical Philistines while the Judeo-Christian narrative denies it.

Palestine from Philistine or the Biblical word Palasheth refers to the land and not the people there.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Right, and that's cool and everything, but none of that ever gave Israel the right to hinder the Palestinians right to statehood, and all of it clearly stated that many parts of Palestine that Israel is now settling are forbidden from being settled/annexed by Israel.

Egypt and Syria have lost more territory to Israel. Egypt has more
or less been able to resolve their dispute with Israel and has become
one of their biggest trade partners. Maybe one day Israel and Palestinans
will also resolve their differences?

 

[Son of Govinda]

Maybe one day Israel and Palestinans
will also resolve their differences?

it all begins with the two-state solution my friend.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

it all begins with the two-state solution my friend.

why is there so much resistance to this from the Arab side?

Israel has repeatedly accepted the two state solution
Prince Bandar bin Sultan of Saudi Arabia

Poll: Arabs reject two-state solution - UPI.com
Arabs reject two-state solution

Palestine Has Always Rejected A Two-State Solution
Palestine Has Always Rejected A Two-State Solution

 

[Bobby Jose]

If the first fruit (Abraham) is good the fruits(Jews) coming after that will be good.For the sake of gentiles Jews rejected Christ, for the sake of us they becomes enemy of GOD because it was the plan of GOD to save the mankind through Jesus.
Jews they are the real people of true GOD no one can destroy them may be you can defeat them but they will rise again because they are the people of true GOD.
He will will never leave them for always, if he loved the gentiles to give his own son (or himself) how he can leave his own people.

 

[Dovah]

If the first fruit (Abraham) is good the fruits(Jews) coming after that will be good.For the sake of gentiles Jews rejected Christ, for the sake of us they becomes enemy of GOD because it was the plan of GOD to save the mankind through Jesus.
Jews they are the real people of true GOD no one can destroy them may be you can defeat them but they will rise again because they are the people of true GOD.
He will will never leave them for always, if he loved the gentiles to give his own son (or himself) how he can leave his own people.

Amen brother.

 

[KS]

Egypt and Syria have lost more territory to Israel. Egypt has more
or less been able to resolve their dispute with Israel and has become
one of their biggest trade partners. Maybe one day Israel and Palestinans
will also resolve their differences?

If it was left to the Palestinians alone they would have resolved it long back.

But now the Israel-Palestinian problem is for all intent and purposes a power game between Arabs,Iran and Israel and the Palestinians unwitting and witting pawns in that. Thus being the true loosers there.