The Genocide The World Forgot

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  1. AJSINGH

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    When we can raise your voice for 2,000 Muslims killed in Gujarat, we must cry from the rooftops for 2.4 million Hindus killed in 1971 or the 250,000 Kashmir [ Images ]i Pandits forced out of their homes in Kashmir. Why do we not? asks Vivek Gumaste.
    Public memory is short and fleeting. Events register momentarily like a blip on a radar and are then consigned to some dark corner of our cerebral galaxy. The brain needs to be bombarded with repetitive stimuli or jolted by a single moral turpitude of seismic proportions to evoke a strong and sustained response. In the absence of such reinforcement, a thought fades away from ones mind and that is the unfortunate tragedy of the Bangladesh genocide.

    To ascertain the etiology of this amnesia or selective attention deficit we need to delve deeper into the details of this gory chapter of South Asia. In a massive military operation, code named Operation Searchlight aimed at crushing Bengali aspirations of autonomy, the Pakistan army [ Images ] in March of 1971 unleashed a deadly reign of terror that killed about 3 million Bangladeshis and forced another 10 million to seek refuge across the border in India [ Images ].

    Estimates of the actual numbers vary from a ridiculous low 26,000 put out by the Pakistan government (Hamood-ur-Rahman Commission) to a high of 3 million circulating in the international media. In a preface to this massacre, Yahya Khan, the military dictator of Pakistan at that time is supposed to have remarked: "Kill 3 million of them and the rest will eat out of our hands." (Pierre, Stephen and Robert Payne (1973), Massacre, New York: Macmillan, p 50). The official position from Bangladesh concurs with the figure of 3 million.

    R J Rummel in his book, Statistics of Democide: Genocide and Mass Murder Since 1900 (ch.8) concludes: "Consolidating both ranges, I give a final estimate of Pakistan's democide to be 300,000 to 3,000,000, or a prudent 1,500,000." Even this figure of 1.5 million places this massacre high up in the list of notable world genocides. While the number killed by the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia (in excess of 2 million) may top the Bangladesh genocide, it was carried out over a period of 4 years in comparison to the nine-month deadly rampage of the Pakistan army: a chilling testimony to the awesome brutality of this massacre.

    Who bore the brunt of this genocide? Was it the Bengali Muslims? Were the Bengali Hindus selectively targeted? Or did both communities suffer equally? It is important to know the actual distribution of the casualties for therein may lie the clue to the big unanswered question: Why were the guilty not brought to book?

    The killings were not random acts of response to a mass uprising but a meticulously crafted strategy of selective victimisation as Rummel indicates in his book: "In East Pakistan (now Bangladesh) [General Agha Mohammed Yahya Khan and his top generals] also planned to murder its Bengali intellectual, cultural, and political elite. They also planned to indiscriminately murder hundreds of thousands of its Hindus and drive the rest into India. And they planned to destroy its economic base to insure that it would be subordinate to West Pakistan for at least a generation to come. This despicable and cutthroat plan was outright genocide."

    A report in the Sunday Times, London [ Images ] (June 13, 1971) corroborates the existence of such a diabolical blueprint: "The government's policy for East Bengal was spelled out to me in the Eastern Command headquarters at Dacca. It has three elements: 1. The Bengalis have proved themselves unreliable and must be ruled by West Pakistanis; 2. The Bengalis will have to be re-educated along proper Islamic lines. The -- Islamisation of the masses -- this is the official jargon -- is intended to eliminate secessionist tendencies and provide a strong religious bond with West Pakistan; 3. When the Hindus have been eliminated by death and fight, their property will be used as a golden carrot to win over the under privileged Muslim middle-class. This will provide the base for erecting administrative and political structures in the future."

    In a report submitted to U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee (November 1, 1971) Senator Edward Kennedy further confirms this persecution of Hindus: "Field reports to the US government, countless eye-witness journalistic accounts, reports of international agencies such as World Bank and additional information available to the subcommittee document the reign of terror which grips East Bengal (East Pakistan). Hardest hit have been members of the Hindu community who have been robbed of their lands and shops, systematically slaughtered, and in some places, painted with yellow patches marked 'H'. All of this has been officially sanctioned, ordered and implemented under martial law from Islamabad [ Images ]."

    An article in Time magazine dated August 2, 1971 titled Pakistan: The Ravaging of Golden Bengal (external link)categorically concluded: "The Hindus, who account for three-fourths of the refugees and a majority of the dead, have borne the brunt of the Muslim military hatred."

    All this evidence clearly indicates that the Hindu community of Bangladesh was the specially culled out by the Pakistan army for this inhuman treatment. Coming to specifics, let us see whether we can ascertain with a fair degree of accuracy, the ball park figures for the Hindus killed or driven from their homes.

    In the senate judiciary committee report, Kennedy indicates that 80 percent of the refugees were Hindu, that is 8 of the 10 million; a figure in line with the Time magazine report that suggests that three-fourths of the refugees were Hindu.

    The percentage figures follow the same pattern when we look at the people killed. Shrinandan Vyas in an article in The Hindu titled Hindu Genocide in East Pakistan uses population statistics from the Bangladesh ministry of planning, bureau of statistics to extrapolate the number of Hindus killed by the Pakistan army: a mind-numbing figure of 2.4 million equivalent to 80 percent of the overall total of 3 million emerges.

    While this is not an attempt to underplay or trivialise the sacrifices of Bangladeshis as a whole (Muslim intellectuals were also killed in large numbers), it cannot be denied that the Hindu community of Bangladesh accounted for an astronomically disproportionate share of the dead and paid a price that was more than its due.

    A crime like genocide usually involves established institutions like governments or nations. For the criminals to be brought to book one needs a dedicated champion like the legendary Nazi hunter Simon Wiesenthal or a driven community who share a commonality with the victims and will not let the perpetrators to rest. The Hindu community has neither.

    Logically it would fall upon the Bangladesh government to relentlessly pursue the executors of this horrific massacre. After some half-hearted attempts in the immediate post -1971 period, the Bangladesh government has relegated this issue to a back burner. Why they have done so is intriguing? Does it have to do something with Islamic brotherhood and the fact that the victims happened to be predominantly Hindu?

    What about the Hindus themselves? The Hindus, wherever they maybe, are afflicted with a strange psychic malady that inhibits them from standing up for their rights or highlighting atrocities committed against them. Moreover those Hindus who do so are shouted down by their own brethren .However, in defence of Bangladeshi Hindus, I must say that the continued oppressive religious environment in that country makes any such protest impossible, especially with their limited numbers.

    The only other lobby with a special interest in this matter was predominantly Hindu India. I have always felt that India owes a moral responsibility to the Hindus left behind in Pakistan and Bangladesh in 1947. While the Muslim minority of India became a part of a secular republic with equal rights, the Hindu minority of Pakistan (and later Bangladesh) were relegated to second class status through no fault of theirs.

    Could India with its famed free and secular media have played a key role? Yes it certainly could have. And should have. But did not.

    To side with Hindus even if they are right is akin to blasphemy in the vaunted circles of the free Indian media. How else can you explain the relentless crusade against the Gujarat riots that persists even to this day in comparison with the near total silence on the monumental genocide that obliterated 2.4 million Hindus from the face of the earth or the shoddy treatment meted out to the continued ethnic cleansing of a quarter million Hindus from Kashmir?

    All atrocities regardless of the colour, caste, creed or religion of the victims must be condemned fair and square and the perpetrators relentlessly pursued till eternity if need be and brought to book. When we can raise your voice for 2,000 Muslims (the official figures are much less) killed in Gujarat and we should, we must cry from the roof tops for 2.4 million Hindus killed in 1971 or the 250,000 Kashmiri Pandits forced out of their homes in Kashmir. Why do we not?

    http://news.rediff.com/column/2010/mar/26/the-genocide-we-and-the-world-forgot.htm
     
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    We don't shout on top of the rooftops about Hindus killed in Bangladesh, the displacement of Kashmiri Pandits from their homelands, or the systematic threat to Brahmins thanks to reservations (where Brahmins who cannot afford quality education and are completely unreserved are left to fend for themselves with diminishing opportunity and social status), because our government doesn't care. Congress or BJP doesn't have to worry about votes from the Hindu majority population. All it needs to worry about is cashing in on the minority and BC/SC/ST, Muslim vote banks, and hence will go to any lengths to appease them. The distressed upper-class groups is a silent group any way. It has realised that working hard to migrate to other countries makes sense.
     
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    well BJP does care , so does RSS ( which runs thousand of school for literally free of cost ) ,i do not expect UPA to care much about hindus well because they are busy caring about the 13%muslim population
     
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    World hasn't forgot it but it allowed the genocide to happen just to advance its interest in the region,case of which is clearly seen in BSF is violent force thread.Simply said Amnesty and human rights watch group and all other sundry NGO etc tools of west to beat around other countries.otherwise why we dont here same groups shouting on USA criminality in Iraq/Afghanistan/Vietnam. or on Guantanamo prisons.Why world remembers jewish holocaust but silently allows the bengali genocide in east pakistan.why the west shouts human rights on kashmir but silent watches baloch genocide or say pukhtoon genocide.Latest just check out the project ksahmir video very first line in introduction of the video says::::

    Now the filmaker Geeta V. Patel thinks that indians are as dumb as american who cant even point out kashmir on map.Now geta patel who is bought up in usa system thinks that coz following is the situation with americans today...watch yourself....

     
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    lol...BJP.......They are just Don quixotic who comes out in shiny knights Armour and whole time fight the windmill but when the actual chance to fight they are just like pussy-footer.Its easy for anyone to shout when not in power .mettle of person/party gets tested when they are in power.And BJP proved twice they were biggest pussycats in the indian polity.
     
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    look do not start with BJP or i will tell about UPA being even bigger pussy cats ( remeber BJP had the courage to repeal kargil intrusion ,you cant expect UPA to do that )
     
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    No, BJP doesn't care. It allows its Sangh-parivar allies such as Shiv Sena to beat up poor and defenceless Brahmin sadhus from the North at Siddhi Vinayak.

    BJP tried the wrong route to win over lower-class Hindus (who are larger in numbers), by recking up the Ayodhya temple issue, when there clearly are more important issues to confront, especially with the dwindling Brahmin populace.
     
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    Well i would say no. Today congress they started this appeasement policy in the 1920s thats the great Mahatama taught the people on this appeasement which made the jinnah to form a seperate country for muslims. BJP atleast were strong enough to tell no, but will have a pussy gut to do that? Virtually media (read as news channels) made the muslim people to feel a insecurity when BJP comes to power and not when Congress is in.

    When the majority hindus are neglected (poor brahmins) and sidelined by the so called Aam-admi congress government. I have no problem in reservation, but when it carries a tag of caste and religion it really hurts me. Give the required to the economic backward class (here is where around 80-85% of muslims fall living in this country). The congress have used them only for the vote-bank politics and they are least bothered about their growth.

    Genocide, well this is what happening for years in the Kashmir. more than 300,000 Kashmiri pandits fleed their motherland and now they are living as a rufugee in their own country. In my opinion the special law which makes the kashmir as seperate region within the country should be scrapped and the Kashmir Pandits need to be welcome nack to their states. Without that we cant expect any growth in the Kashmir.
     
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    Come on guys, more than being Hindus or Muslims; those people who lost their lives were humans first. Indian Citizens more precisely. GOI led by any party owe protection & basic rights of staying alive to those deads. Politics at its place but these genocides are real shame to our identity.

    Now any party be it UPA or NDA are going to play the politics for votes for sure. No one is innocent in this shyt.
    For any political party, #1 priority is to gain votes. Now to gain these votes, they can cross any level. In India, caste card play a big roll so all political parties are playing it. They'll refrain doing it unless entire mass is educated & not just educated but has developed rational productive thinking.

    If Hindu-Muslim conflict is solved, it'll never be enough. Hindus will still have conflicts in the sub-castes, e.g.: Brahmin-Dalits, Marathas-Brahmins etc.
    Same goes with Muslims or any other caste. Politicians will fuel any of these conflicts regardless of being Hindu/Muslim. Goal is votes! so they'll make capital of anything that has potential of division & securing 100% sure votes.

    Indian citizens influenced by these caste-politics playing parties are blinded & has limited thinking. Their vote is based on simple dream of SECURITY.
    These politicians create giant canvas in front of them depicting Fear & challenges in their existence if other party comes to power. People fall pray to these Propaganda & vote bythches like Mayawati (+ many etc) to continue to the bad cycle. They are playing politics of fear against our very own Indian people!

    Unless sound Indian mass capable of independent rational thinking emerges these counter-supporting & politics based on caste will continue forever.

    This is the high time we dismiss political parties based on Castism in order to save India from falling into total chaos to the level that can't be brought back. Our agenda should be total development & that has to be conveyed to these political parties in hard way if we want fulfill the dream of Indian Century.
     
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    The issue is not about people who lost their lives. It's about not acknowledging that just because they were Hindus, which is why the discussion. So it's not about "humans who lost their lives" first.

    And the rest of the post is merely enlaborating about just how screwed up our system has become. It doesn't work for the poor, it works for vote-banks.
     
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    Why acknowledge them with their caste? It fuels hatred among our citizens only. It ain't any constructive IMO. Every memory of these genocides will blame some caste. This blame game will never end.

    Just because I'm saying this doesn't mean that I've no sympathy or acknowledgment of those dead Hindus. I've seen Hindus/Muslims killed out of hatred. But one has to take overall perspective.
    The intention was to elaborate the situation of our screwed up system. Roots of these problems lie in there.
     
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    look people i appreciate the response to my thread but lets keep politics out of it ..my point behind posting this thread was to let people know what happened and the world including India have conveniently forgotten it
     
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    Not alone the Kashmiri pandits also the PA's cleansing of the Bengalis from the previous East Pakistan
     
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    No political party will give up on attack against India. Be it NDA/UPA, India will not be sold. BJP repelled Kargil intrusion. UPA/any party would have taken the same necessary steps. Regarding Kargil, BJP ain't any Hero, Indian Armed Forces deserve the credit.
     
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    Because they were Hindus, a politically split majority who have less consequences on major political parties, ills metted out to them weren't acknowledged.

    Just because a minority of the population will feel bad doesn't mean the majority has to be treated as second class. That doesn't strike any logic.

    It is exactly that way of conveniently coving up with "we are all Indians" that has made upper class Hindus realise there's not much left to be done to this country. Starting with my oldest cousin, I've seen each of my cousins and siblings work hard academically, so they could migrate to other countries where they're at least treated more fairly, because in their own words "abandon ship". I know some day I have to go their way.
     
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    Acknowledgment is justified but hidden revenge towards it based on power politics is wrong.


    My exact point. Why we need to make classes? All are just Indian Citizens, that categorization is enough. No one has to feel Second class or First class.
     
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    Why make classes? Because the government made them. It was the Congress government which is doing everything to "give justice" to minorities of Gujarat (2002), the BJP government which is doing everything to "give justice" to Sikhs of Delhi (1984), just so they could play their politics of vendetta, but neither is doing anything to rehabilitate Kashmiri Pandits back on their lands, neither is doing anything for poor upper-caste (unreserved) people. So an induction of a class-based divide among people is natural, because the government is inducing it by the way it operates.
     
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    Same goes with me. I've faced/facing the similar situation. But I don't care if other caste is making celebrations with no reasons but just to promote them in ill-manner which can shadow/de-glamorize/smirch my caste for period. I'll continue the struggle to the point I can or choose the alternatives.

    My case or one you mentioned goals better/fair living offering equal opportunities to all. I don't expect miracles to happen here in short time. If we want to live in our country with dream of equal opportunities then we need to dismiss these political parties/organizations spreading viral caste based propaganda.
     
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    Then everybody should be ready for the ramifications of same & the followed collateral damage.
     
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    Or everybody should reform the system, give reservations to the poor of all castes rather than to castes completely disregarding socio-economics (we know that's not going to happen), so like my siblings say, "abandon ship". Move to a country where things are more fair to you.
     
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