The Gaza Massacre; Imran Khan writes to UNSG

[Blackwater]

H E Mr Ban Ki-moon

Secretary General

United Nations

First Ave at 46th Street

New York, N.Y. 10017

USA

Email: [email protected] 25 July 2014

THE GAZA MASSACRE

Excellency,

I write to you as the Chairman of the second largest political party in Pakistan and on behalf of the Pakistani nation that has always been the lead nation in UN peacekeeping across the globe. We have been watching in shock and horror as the state of Israel has unleashed the massacre of Palestinians in Gaza during the Muslim Holy month of Ramazan and the UN has stood by as a silent spectator. The death toll of the Palestinians in Gaza has risen above 800 and the Israeli aggression continues. The residents of Gaza cannot seek escape as Egypt has kept its border with Gaza sealed. The Egyptian authorities have also prevented medical supplies from going in to Gaza and the UN has issued not a word of protest.

Yet the UN's primary responsibility is to maintain global peace and to prevent aggression. From the UN Charter's preamble to Article 2:4 to Chapter V11, the UN has a duty to ensure that people are not persecuted and states do not aggress against other states and territories. The Office of Secretary General has a critical role to play in the maintenance of international peace and prevention of state aggression and war. Chapter XV Article 99 defines the special responsibility the SG has in this regard and Article 100.1 also calls on the SG not to be influenced by any state in the carrying out of his functions.

The SG has to ensure the credibility of the UN in times of crises and war. At present the UN is undergoing a major challenge in terms of sustaining its institutional credibility. The massacre of innocent women, children, and elderly by the state of Israel cannot simply be ignored by the UN and by yourself as its SG. Nor can the Israeli aggression under false claims of "self defence" be ignored – especially by the UN and its SG. The UN Charter clearly circumscribes the notion of self-defence in Chapter VII and the ICJ Advisory Opinion on the Israeli Wall further countered the Israeli claims of self defence. How can the bombing of a hospital, a cemetery and a UN school be regarded as acts of self-defence?

As the world watches Israel losing all sense of humanity and breaking all international norms of behaviour, it is the UN to which it looks for intervention. After the UN World Summit of 2005 the international community asserted the principle of the Right to Protect as part of humanitarian intervention. The primary responsibility for enforcing this rests with the UN and its SG. I call on you to immediately exercise this responsibility to prevent a genocide of the Palestinians in Gaza.

As SG your actions will decide whether the UN is to remain credible as the harbinger of peace, the protector of the weak and the institution that ensures aggression remains unsuccessful around the globe. After all the UN was founded "to prevent future generations from the scourge of war". It is up to you to ensure that the UN fulfills the mandate given to it by the comity of nations.

My country has always been one of the prime supporters of the UN in its peace and security functions. My Party has justice and human dignity as underlying principles. We cannot now allow the UN to lose all credibility because one powerful state is allowing Israel to conduct aggression against Gaza with impunity. We have a right to demand that you as the SG enforce the UN Charter and play an active role in halting Israeli military aggression against the Palestinian population of Gaza. As SG you must also demand and ensure Egypt open its border with Gaza to allow medical assistance and essential supplies to go into Gaza. You have a duty to ensure that the plan of genocide of the Palestinians by the Israeli state is thwarted. It is time for you as the UNSG to fulfill this critical duty.

Yours,

Imran Khan

Chairman PTI


PTI Chairman Imran Khan letter to UNSG Ban Ki-moon

 

[Blackwater]

Thakedari of muslim ummah.

sale ko pakistan me massacre nazar nahi ata

 

[sydsnyper]

.... and the only reason toilets like al-bakistan and bangladesh join the UN 'peacekeeping' missions is because the UN pays the soldiers more than their own governments. Hence the army is keen to grabbing any and every opportunity to send its troops to UN.

Thakedari of muslim ummah.

sale ko pakistan me massacre nazar nahi ata

 

[Ray]

Imran Khan, the Taliban acolyte in impotent action.

I believe his sisters are insisting that he get married again!

on behalf of the Pakistani nation that has always been the lead nation in UN peacekeeping across the globe.

By sending peacekeepers, Pakistan is only adding to the soldiers pay. It is to Pakistan's advantage - Foreign exchanage!

If he had the fire in his loins, then he would send troops to Palestine and fight from the Muslims.

Usual Pakistani style - all gas, no go!

Imagine all this coming from a Muslim who married a Jewess! Turncoat! Chameleon. Insincere.

 

[Energon]

Imran Khan, the Taliban acolyte in impotent action.

I believe his sisters are insisting that he get married again!



By sending peacekeepers, Pakistan is only adding to the soldiers pay. It is to Pakistan's advantage - Foreign exchanage!

If he had the fire in his loins, then he would send troops to Palestine and fight from the Muslims.

Usual Pakistani style - all gas, no go!

Imagine all this coming from a Muslim who married a Jewess! Turncoat! Chameleon. Insincere.

I don't think your personal attack against IK has any bearing upon the veracity of his letter. Even if his religious motivations are allegedly insincere, it does not change the fact that he's writing to the UN as a political leader in regards to a very real humanitarian crisis.

Don't get me wrong, I too agree that there are issues with this letter; but none of them have anything to do with his marital status or his choice of former spouses.

 

[Ray]

I don't think your personal attack against IK has any bearing upon the veracity of his letter. Even if his religious motivations are allegedly insincere, it does not change the fact that he's writing to the UN as a political leader in regards to a very real humanitarian crisis.

Don't get me wrong, I too agree that there are issues with this letter; but none of them have anything to do with his marital status or his choice of former spouses.

Oh sure, anyone can write to the UN. It is a Pakistani pursuit since they cannot get their Govt or Justice Organisation to act.

Here is another example from a Pakistani invoking the UN

Letter to UN Secy Gen from Christian leader of Pakistan

I , the undersigned , Nazir S Bhatti, Chief of Pakistan Christian Congress PCC, on behalf of 20 million Christian in Islamic Republic of Pakistan wish to draw your kind attention on enforced migration and displacement of thousands of Christians from Swat valley, Peshawar, Mardan, Nowshera and FATA after threats to convert to Islam or die by Islamist elements. These families are staying with their relatives in Punjab and Sindh provinces facing immense miseries and hardships after denial by government of Pakistan to provide any assistance or security. The hundreds of Christians families of victims of blasphemy are living in hiding for safety of life weather accused are acquitted or in jails. Thousands of Christian families keep on shifting residence in different parts of Pakistan on threats by influential Muslims or in fear of implication in fabricated cases by police. The mass migration of poor oppressed Christian is never brought on record by government of Pakistan nor any human right organization have urged for their settlement where they may live peaceful life.

It will be very important to note in 21st century that Christian are treated as untouchable by Muslim majority on basis of religion and cannot dine at any roadside vendor, restaurant and hotel which is worst type of hate on globe towards Christian in Pakistan. If any Christian on journey or away from home is hungry and attempts to eat in any Muslim owned dinner, he is beaten and tortured by Muslims and forced to pay for plates and glass in which he eats or any thing he have touched. The Pakistan Christian Congress PCC presented many memorandums to government from 1985-1998 to legislate against curse of un-touchable to ensure social justice in society but such demands were neglected. The curse of un-touchable have prevented Christians to take part in profitable catering industry because Pakistani Muslim terms Christians as infidel under Islamic decree which prohibit to eat any food prepared by them.

His Excellency,

The churches are being attacked, pastors are being threatened, social activists are charged under blasphemy, teenage girls are gang-raped by Muslims and Christian women are enforcedly converted to marry by Muslims in Pakistan. There are innocent Christians accused of blasphemy behind bars and hundreds facing trials under fabricated false cases; The Churches in Bahawalpur, Islamabad, Chianwali, Sangla Hill, Toba Tek, Sukkur, Karachi, Lahore, Peshawar and in many villages have been attacked by militant Muslim extremists groups killing hundreds of Christian worshipers but non of killer is arrested and brought to justice from 1998-2009. The government also failed to protect Christian institution of Murree School, Taxila Hospital, Bible Society and Justice and Peace Organization at Karachi, from attacks of extremist Muslim groups who massacred Christian social activists.

The Muslim militants Martyred Bishop John Joseph, a first and only Punjabi bishop of Catholic Church of Pakistan, dioceses of Faisalabad, but establishment forced Christian clergy tools to declare his martyrdom to be a suicide. The Pakistani Christian Congress PCC demanded to constitute an independent Tribunal to investigate killing of Bishop John Joseph but conspiracy was hatched to close his murder case. Many other pastors and evangelists have been gunned down in broad day light but killers are never arrested and brought to justice in Pakistan.

The Christian youth has been denied opportunities of professional and higher education in Pakistan which has created socio-economic disaster among poor families. The government have closed doors of employment for Christian youth in armed and civil services to force them to become laborers and accept low grade jobs of sanitary workers.

There is no Christian General in Armed Forces, no Christian Secretary in Civil services, no Christian Chairman in any of government Corporation, no Christian Inspector General of Police IG, DIG, SSP, SP, DSP and SHO in four provinces, no Christian High Commissioner, Ambassador and Counsel General in any Foreign Mission of Pakistan, no Christian Justice in any High Courts or Supreme Court of Pakistan and no Christian Director or Deputy Director in any Directorate of Pakistani government which is total denial of due share in power and resources of state to millions of Christians.

The census is never conducted fair and transparent and Christian data is manipulated to decrease representation of Christian in democratic institutions. It will be interesting to note that Christians had four seats in legislative assembly of Pakistan when house comprised of 48 legislators in 1947. There were six seats reserved for Christians in national assembly of Pakistan in constitution of 1973 of Islamic Republic of Pakistan which were reduced to four in national general elections of 1985, when house was of 232 members. In national general elections of 2002, the total house consisted of 365 but Christian seats remained four. How amazing it makes mockery of Census Division of Pakistan that population of Muslims keep on increasing but population of Christians decreasing?

His Excellency,

The Islamic laws of blasphemy, Hadood Ordinance, Article 203, law of Evidence and Compensation have been implemented on Christians which have created feelings of security and safety of life by the hands of militant or by government agencies which is clear count of constitutional genocide since 1985.

The Pakistan Peoples Party PPP government have been also failed to award equal basic democratic rights to millions of Christians like previous military regimes. The PPP led government have imposed one Christian tool as Federal Minister for Minorities and declared him head of "Minority Commission". It is on record that government of Pakistan entered into an internationally recognized pact with Indian government in 1950, known as Liaquat-Nehru Pact to further safeguard the minority's rights in the neighboring states. The facts to enter in this pact were that problem of religious minorities aggravated a lot during late 1949 and early 1950. At this critical moment of the history of South Asia, Prime Minister of Pakistan, Liaquat Ali Khan issued statement and emphasized on the solution of the problem of minorities in the two countries. He also proposed a meeting with his Indian counter part to determine how to end the persecution. The two Prime Ministers met in Delhi on April 2, 1950 and discussed the matter in detail for six long days. On April 8, the two leaders signed an agreement, which was later given the name; "Liaquat-Nehru Pact". This pact provided a bill of rights for the minorities of India and Pakistan. According to the agreement, the government of India and Pakistan solemnly agreed that each shall ensure, to the minorities throughout its territories, complete equality of citizenship, irrespective of religion; a full sense of security in respect of life, culture, property and personal honor. It also guaranteed the fundamental human rights to the minorities, such as freedom of movement, speech, occupation and worship. The pact also provided for the minorities to Participate in the public life of the country, to hold political or other office and to serve in their countries civil and armed forces. Liaquat-Nehru Pact provided for the mechanism to deal with the oppressive elements with iron hand. Both the governments decided to set up "Minority Commission" headed by acting Justice of higher court in their country with the aim to observe and report on the implementation of the pact.

Sir,

The government of India constituted "The Minority Commission" headed by Justice of Supreme Court of India, according to the referred pact and legislated according to presentations of the Muslim leaders to their personal laws and election systems but the government of Pakistan failed to constitute such effective "Minority Commission" headed by acting Supreme Court justice for recommendations or the presentations of the Christian leaders in Pakistan. The Indian religious minorities are enjoying due share in power and Indian Muslim have their independent Law Board to protect their personnel law while in Pakistan, the Muslim judges are issuing decrees under Islamic laws on Christian divorce and marriages. The Present PPP government following the foot steps of previous regimes have also nominated one Federal Minister for Minorities to be head of "Minority Commission" instead of any Justice of Supreme Court violating Liaquat-Nehro Pact.

His Excellency,

Islamic Republic of Pakistan being a member of United Nation and one of signatory member state of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights announced in UN Charter have always neglected the respect of fundamental right of the creed or language, according to Articles 9-29 of Islamic republic of Pakistan constitution of 1973. In the elections of 1971, for first time after independence, the Joint Election system was endorsed in the legal framework. During legislation of Joint Electorate system in the 1973 constitution of Islamic Republic of Pakistan, no Christian presence was in the house while Muslim members of parliament created selection instead of election. We wish to submit that Christians never demanded Joint Election system nor were any recommendations of Minority Commission according to Liaquat Nehru Pact, as such commission never existed in Pakistan since 1950. The founder of Pakistan, Mohammad Ali Jinnah declared in his Fourteen Point doctrine, the Separate Election system for minorities in Pakistan, keeping in view his meetings and discussion with the minority leaders during the Pakistan movement. The minorities enjoyed the separate election system from 1947 to 1956 by electing their own representatives for democratic institutions in Pakistan to raise their voice.

In Joint Election system, Christian vote in their respective constituencies to Muslim candidates while Muslim members of parliament select Christians tools of Muslim feudal lords and business tycoons on reserved seats which can not be termed democratic. On other hand the Dual Voting system for the Kashmiri Muslims is in operation where they vote within territory of Pakistan to elect their legislators for the legislative assembly of Azad Kashmir and also vote for national assembly of Pakistan in their respective constituencies. The Christians have demanded Dual Voting rights which have been denied and Joint Electorate has been imposed on them.

His Excellency,

In my letter to UNO offices on August, 2002, I appealed to press upon government of Pakistan not to impose Joint Election system on Christians but to constitute "Minority Commission" headed by Supreme Court Justice to provide an opportunity of presentations to Christian registered political parties, civil society leaders and clergy on election system of their choice. I also invited your kind attention on miseries and hardships of Christians youth, women and seniors in Pakistan who have been treated as second class citizen and deprived of their basic democratic rights.

Again, I wish to bring to your kind notice that present regime of PPP is making false promises with Christians and not sincere to solve their problems to ensure justice. The PPP government announced to reserve seats for Christians in Senate of Pakistan in elections of February 2009, but failed to fulfill promise and again there is no Christian representation in Senate of Pakistan. The Prime Minster declared 5% quota of jobs for Christians in government employment but never issued any official notification in this regard. The incidents of arrests under blasphemy, gang-rape of teen age Christian girls, forcibly conversion of Christian women and their kidnaps, desecration of Churches and victimization by police are at peak now which have forced Christians to not trust government any more when government have no respect for international treaties like Liaquat-Nehro Pact and Universal Human Rights Declaration of UNO being a signatory.

Prayer:

PCC appeal United Nations to appoint special envoy to visit Pakistan to verify persecution, victimization and genocide of Christians by hands of Muslims, Muslim militants and establishment by direct meeting with migrant Christians and victims of oppression, rape and torture instead of meeting with clergy and their umbrella civil society organizations or commissions which are continuously misleading international forums on directives of government. We also appeal your honor to award refugee status to families of victim of rape, blasphemy laws, wrongfully confined by administration, displaced Christians and Christians in general for settlement where they may enjoy peaceful life at liberty.
Status of Christians in Pakistan | Indian Realist

I feel that a person who can marry a Jewess is either a confused man to turn against the Jews or he is an opportunist politicians and untrustworthy.

I am not asking you to take my views to be that of yours.

It can be a humanitarian crisis in Palestine, but it takes two hands to clap. It is just that notwithstanding all the bravado professed by the Islamic world, they are only cosmetic in their 'concern', making a huge show for the gallery and then expecting others to act for them.

If the Arabs and Imran Khan, the Taliban acolyte, is indeed sincere, they should take concrete action. But that requires guts sacrifice and even embracing death! Being a yellow livered motor mouth is of no use.

But wily and cunning that Imran Khan is, he is well aware that he can grandstand and play to his constituency, knowing fully well the UN is moribund and cannot act since the UNSC is under the shadow of the inevitable veto by the US.

 

[Energon]

I feel that a person who can marry a Jewess is either a confused man to turn against the Jews or he is an opportunist politicians and untrustworthy.

I am not asking you to take my views to be that of yours.

Oh of course, that's not even an option.

However I fail to see the logic behind your assertion that anyone who was once married to a Jewish woman is no longer allowed to criticize the ostensibly questionable actions of Israel. Since when did matrimony become the defining paradigm for all social or political views? So say if a man of Indian descent marries a Caucasian woman, is he forever disbarred from raising objections to questionable acts involving other Caucasians?

That just seems a bit absurd to me.

 

[Ray]

Oh of course, that's not even an option.

However I fail to see the logic behind your assertion that anyone who was once married to a Jewish woman is no longer allowed to criticize the ostensibly questionable actions of Israel. Since when did matrimony become the defining paradigm for all social or political views? So say if a man of Indian descent marries a Caucasian woman, is he forever disbarred from raising objections to questionable acts involving other Caucasians?

That just seems a bit absurd to me.

The absurd is the essential concept and the first truth.
- Albert Camus, the French-Algerian Nobel Prize winning author, journalist, and philosopher.

So say if a man of Indian descent marries a Caucasian woman, is he forever disbarred from raising objections to questionable acts involving other Caucasians?

Indeed he can.

He acts and not emits hot air and indicates an impotent tendency.

And he does not make a song and a dance of it and play to his constituency.

 

[Energon]

The absurd is the essential concept and the first truth.
- Albert Camus, the French-Algerian Nobel Prize winning author, journalist, and philosopher.

Um.. I love Camus as much as the next absurdist... but I'm pretty sure this quote is ill suited as a response to my post because it's both, out of scope and out of context.

 

[Ray]

Um.. I love Camus as much as the next absurdist... but I'm pretty sure this quote is ill suited as a response to my post because it's both, out of scope and out of context.

I bow to you, Socrates and Matthew, Mark, and Luke all rolled in one!

What logic, what analytical insight and so near to God's word!

 

[rock127]

H E Mr Ban Ki-moon
Secretary General
United Nations
First Ave at 46th Street
New York, N.Y. 10017
USA
Email: [email protected] 25 July 2014

Subject : The Pakistani GENOCIDE and MASSACRE of 3 Million Muslim Bangladeshi,100,000 Kashmiri,60,000 Pakistani Muslims,3000 Americans.

Excellency,

I write to you as the citizen of the BIGGEST TERRORIST nation aka Pakistan and on behalf of the Pakistani nation that has always been the lead nation in UN peacekeeping across the globe by sending terrorist all over the world.We have been watching in shock and horror as the state of Israel has unleashed the massacre of Palestinians in Gaza during the Muslim Holy month of Ramazan and the UN has stood by as a silent spectator. The death toll of the Palestinians in Gaza has risen above 800 and the Israeli aggression continues. The residents of Gaza cannot seek escape as Egypt has kept its border with Gaza sealed. The Egyptian authorities have also prevented medical supplies from going in to Gaza and the UN has issued not a word of protest.

Yet the UN's primary responsibility is to maintain global peace and to prevent aggression so they should FIRST send UN mission to thrash Pak Army and kick it out of Kashmir since it didn't obey your order 50 years ago. From the UN Charter's preamble to Article 2:4 to Chapter V11, the UN has a duty to ensure that people are not persecuted and states do not aggress against other states and territories. The Office of Secretary General has a critical role to play in the maintenance of international peace and prevention of state aggression and war. Chapter XV Article 99 defines the special responsibility the SG has in this regard and Article 100.1 also calls on the SG not to be influenced by any state in the carrying out of his functions.

The SG has to ensure the credibility of the UN in times of crises and war. At present the UN is undergoing a major challenge in terms of sustaining its institutional credibility. Pakistan has KILLED 3 Million Muslim bangladeshis,100,000 Kashmiris and RAPED innocent women, children. Nor can the Israeli aggression under false claims of "self defence" be ignored – especially by the UN and its SG. The UN Charter clearly circumscribes the notion of self-defence in Chapter VII and the ICJ Advisory Opinion on the Israeli Wall further countered the Israeli claims of self defence. How can the bombing of a hospital, a cemetery and a UN school be regarded as acts of self-defence?

As the world watches Pakistan has lost all sense of humanity and breaking all international norms of behaviour by creating Good terrorists and hiding OBL.Pakistan is the BIGGEST MUSLIM KILLER it is the UN to which it looks for intervention. After the UN World Summit of 2005 the international community asserted the principle of the Right to Protect as part of humanitarian intervention. The primary responsibility for enforcing this rests with the UN and its SG. I call on you to immediately exercise this responsibility to prevent a genocide of the Palestinians in Gaza.

As SG your actions will decide whether the UN is to remain credible as the harbinger of peace, the protector of the weak and the institution that ensures aggression remains unsuccessful around the globe. After all the UN was founded "to prevent future generations from the scourge of war". It is up to you to ensure that the UN fulfills the mandate given to it by the comity of nations.

My country has always been one of the prime supporters of violating the World Peace by hiding OBL and lakhs of Good Terrorists. My Party has justice and human dignity as underlying principles. We cannot now allow the UN to lose all credibility because one powerful state is allowing Israel to conduct aggression against Gaza with impunity. We have a right to demand that you as the SG enforce the UN Charter and play an active role in halting Israeli military aggression against the Palestinian population of Gaza. As SG YOU MUST ensure that Pakistan pulls back all of it's troops back and criminal investigation to be done in International Court of law of War crimes of rape and genocide of Muslim Bangladeshis,100,000 Kashmiris and 60,000 Pakistani and dismember Pakistan in Greater Afganistan,Balochistan,SindhuDesh and NaPakistan. Egypt open its border with Gaza to allow medical assistance and essential supplies to go into Gaza. You have a duty to ensure that the plan of genocide of the Palestinians by the Israeli state is thwarted. It is time for you as the UNSG to fulfill this critical duty.

Unfaithfully Yours,
Imran Khan
Chairman PTI
PTI Chairman Imran Khan letter to UNSG Ban Ki-moon

Please read the content in RED which actually sounds LOGICAL and FACTFUL.

Imran Khan SHOULD BE telling this to UN. :thumb:

By which face Pakis can complain to UN about genocide??? Pakistan is a CERTIFIED TERRORIST NATION.

 

[Energon]

Oh sure, anyone can write to the UN. It is a Pakistani pursuit since they cannot get their Govt or Justice Organisation to act.

It can be a humanitarian crisis in Palestine, but it takes two hands to clap. It is just that notwithstanding all the bravado professed by the Islamic world, they are only cosmetic in their 'concern', making a huge show for the gallery and then expecting others to act for them.

If the Arabs and Imran Khan, the Taliban acolyte, is indeed sincere, they should take concrete action. But that requires guts sacrifice and even embracing death! Being a yellow livered motor mouth is of no use.

But wily and cunning that Imran Khan is, he is well aware that he can grandstand and play to his constituency, knowing fully well the UN is moribund and cannot act since the UNSC is under the shadow of the inevitable veto by the US.

So what you're saying is that you only lend credence to those making appeals when they're ready to die for their convictions by taking up arms? Don't you think one of the biggest problem our civilization currently faces is the explosive desire many Muslims have for violently sacrificing their lives in the name of religion? Your insinuation that Pakistanis go to war with Israel in order to prove their solidarity with fellow Muslim Palestinians is also absurd (not in the existentialist sense like Camus postulates but rather in the "this argument is laughably half-assed" way). Because, for one, it is now abundantly clear that this conflict can never be settled militarily. So Imran Khan rolling into Palestine with a horde of Pashtun warriors would only worsen the situation. And two, the whole point of the international community is to deter armed conflict not propagate it.

I must say though I was a bit mislead by this statement...

It can be a humanitarian crisis in Palestine, but it takes two hands to clap.

I thought you were going to follow this up with an observation about how IK says absolutely nothing about Hamas purposely drawing fire to densely populated areas by using them as staging grounds for missile launches into Israel. In which case I would have agreed with you because this is a credible argument for a serious shortcoming in his appeal to the UN.

I bow to you, Socrates and Matthew, Mark, and Luke all rolled in one!

What logic, what analytical insight and so near to God's word!

Thank you. You are too kind.

 

[thethinker]

Oh of course, that's not even an option.

However I fail to see the logic behind your assertion that anyone who was once married to a Jewish woman is no longer allowed to criticize the ostensibly questionable actions of Israel. Since when did matrimony become the defining paradigm for all social or political views? So say if a man of Indian descent marries a Caucasian woman, is he forever disbarred from raising objections to questionable acts involving other Caucasians?

That just seems a bit absurd to me.

May I suggest the following :

a) Go to an Islamic republic (regardless of your marital status)
b) Voice your criticism over there regarding their ideology or practices
c) Then, argue there with the same logic like you do in this fine forum.

Thanks.

 

[Energon]

May I suggest the following :

a) Go to an Islamic republic (regardless of your marital status)
b) Voice your criticism over there regarding their ideology or practices
c) Then, argue there with the same logic like you do in this fine forum.

Thanks.

This nonsense has nothing to do with the actual debate at hand.
Thanks,

Also since we're doing suggestions...
1. Please change your screen name, it's patently misleading.

 

[thethinker]

This nonsense has nothing to do with the actual debate at hand.
Thanks,

Also since we're doing suggestions...
1. Please change your screen name, it's patently misleading.

Why not?

And thanks for your concern about the screen name. Leftist pseudo-liberals always get concerned about such "deep" issues like screen names.

 

[Energon]

Why not?

Because it is beyond the scope of what's being discussed. By raising non pertinent talking points you're wasting everyone's time. Either put them into context with a proper explanation or desist.

Also it isn't as much "concern" as it is mild irritation... sort of like if Neo were to change his name to "Indian Nationalist Lover"

 

[thethinker]

Because it is beyond the scope of what's being discussed. By raising non pertinent talking points you're wasting everyone's time. Either put them into context with a proper explanation or desist.

Also it isn't as much "concern" as it is mild irritation... sort of like if Neo were to change his name to "Indian Nationalist Lover"

First off, the context was in itself a general observation regarding the pro-Paki/pro-Saudi views you seem to have while staying daft about radical extremism that seems to be originate from that ideology.
Must be an effect of sheltered life in West like many of the "deep" liberals there.

Secondly, "mild irritation" of yours is none of my concern. Feel free to use the ignore button.

 

[Energon]

First off, the context was in itself a general observation regarding the pro-Paki/pro-Saudi views you seem to have while staying daft about radical extremism that seems to be originate from that ideology.
Must be an effect of sheltered life in West like many of the "deep" liberals there.

Your powers of observation blow chunks because I have never promoted "pro-Paki/pro-Saudi" views anywhere nor am I "daft" about their radical ideology. It is hence only befitting that your last extrapolation takes the award for stupidity because as irony would have it, I have spent over a decade of my life in the middle east and traveled extensively through the Islamic world.

Feel free to use the ignore button.

Good idea. But that's only because your posts are stupid and completely off topic

Jai Hind

 

[thethinker]

Your powers of observation blow chunks because I have never promoted "pro-Paki/pro-Saudi" views anywhere nor am I "daft" about their radical ideology. It is hence only befitting that your last extrapolation takes the award for stupidity because as irony would have it, I have spent over a decade of my life in the middle east and traveled extensively through the Islamic world.


Jai Hind

Good for you to experience Middle East culture! Tried speaking out against the human rights over there with the same context as you do for pro Palestine? Guess not.:thumb:

Jai Hind.