The Doting Mother Sonia

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  1. Ray

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    LEAD, KINDLY

    Hamlet was pretty poor as an assertive prince. He thought too much. That may be Rahul Gandhi’s problem too. But politics is ruthless and Mr Gandhi must make up his mind on what role he wants to play in it. By nominating Mallikarjun Kharge, the senior Dalit leader from Karnataka, the leader of the party in the Lok Sabha, Sonia Gandhi has exposed the confusion at the heart of the Congress. Of course, Mr Kharge is a second-time member of parliament, a nine-time member of the legislative assembly and the erstwhile railways minister in the United Progressive Alliance government. His credentials as party loyalist, vote-winner, organizer and administrator are impeccable; his Dalit identity is a useful token of the Congress’s inclusiveness. Yet he is a strange choice, for he is not known for his eloquence, his ambitions are focused on his home state, and his political stature comes nowhere near Narendra Modi’s. After the Congress’s unprecedented failure, it was expected that some thought would have been put into this choice. Which might indicate what the Congress has learnt from its loss.

    Nothing, it would seem. The party seems torn between logic on the one hand — for there have been criticisms and questions — and loyalty to Sonia Gandhi on the other. If the party wants Mr Gandhi to be the next leader, then this was the time for him to take up the reins in the Lok Sabha, to address hard questions, to work on the party’s image, to be visible, articulate and, most important, accountable. Taking verbal responsibility in disarming martyrdom, and then shying away from the roughness of parliamentary exchange, show an evasiveness that sits ill on an aspiring leader. Is he one? Mr Gandhi’s record in Parliament indicates that he was among those MPs who attended least. His mother has the excuse of ill health, but if the party still looks up to mother and son, at least one of them should be responsible for the party’s showing in the Lower House. If Mr Gandhi does not want to face Mr Modi and his men, why not have a powerful, eloquent, weighty Congressman, such as Kamal Nath or Veerappa Moily, instead? The choice of Mr Kharge suggests that the seat is being kept warm for Mr Gandhi till such time as he overcomes his delicate sensibilities, because Mr Kharge is unlikely to want to take over leadership of the party. ‘Safe’ man. So by undermining leaders who could be effective in the lead, the Congress seems doomed to repeat its failures.
    lead, kindly
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    The intellects of the Gandhi Nehru has faded long ago.

    It is time for the Congress to realise it.

    And it is more important for the Nehru Gandhis to realise it.

    But Power grows from riding on the shoulder of a party.

    It is better to be a tiger for one day
    than a sheep for a thousand years.
    Tibetan Maxim

    "Lions led by donkeys" is a phrase popularly used to describe the British infantry of World War I and to blame the generals who instructed them. The contention is that the brave soldiers (lions) were sent to their deaths by incompetent and indifferent leaders (donkeys).

    Could the donkeys and there are many in the Congress, please give space and go?
     
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    It will be in the nation's interest if they dont realise it. :sarc:
     
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    And the Teething Son Rahul
     
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    roma NRI in Europe Senior Member

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    Kharge will become Kargil ! :taunt1:

    Let me be the first on this forum to say that

    people like Nanadan Nilikani didn't join in order to bow to doting mother and Son
    in other words - within the next 3 to 4 years we are gonna see some Kargil in Congo
     
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    People like Nandadan were used to legalize illegal Bangladeshi immigrants.He was offered Cong blackmoney share.

    Do you think is is some sort of messiah no he is a pig.
     
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    roma NRI in Europe Senior Member

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    my post was
    I'm not sure about what you claim - but indeed there are others ( quote i wrote "people like" )

    - the idea was that Congo will either go through a Kargil or Karghe-out of existence .
     
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    People like Nilkarnis can't do squat against dynasty. They don't have the ground support. What the ilks of Kamal Nath or other stalwarts can do, will be told in future. That the Nilkarni has been in hand in glove with ComCons in billions worth scam of UID, can easily be ascertained if mind is applied. How else the CEO of such supposedly high-profile project forgets to put stopper to all possible loopholes for getting aliens the Aadhar Card? Do you know for getting Aadhar Card one doesn't have to show proof of his/her permanent address, but only temporary address? How stupid is that? Or treasonous? Any body can get a seal of any Gazzetted officer made and get it signed by anybody to provide as address proof, and nobody will be any wiser as no data base of Gazzetted officer's signature exist or no double check is done.

    So, yes, that Nilkarni IS as corrupt as any other opportunistic ComCon aspirants gets.
     
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    Congress has little hope of survival, because present generation Gandhi family Rahul & Priyanka are incompetent and ineffective leaders, and unfortunately Congress has cultivated such a culture for last 65 years that Congress party cannot exist without being led by the Gandhi family. Hence, even when Congress leaders know that Rahul Gandhi has delivered these disastrous results, they cannot bell the cat, so to say. They will continue to call Rahul their leader even when he has no desire to lead the party or the nation.

    it time for the Gandhi family to join the Bollywood for a different action and a different reason because The Congress party is an insult to intelligence. They have converted human into robots, where the intelligence switch is controlled by the two Gandhi's. Unfortunately, the rank and file of this party still believe that the only road to salvation is by bowing to the wish of their idiotic Masters.

    Finally if Congress leaders think that people vote by the pictures of Sonia and Rahul, they are 100% wrong. Indians, for that matter, citizens of any country, need development and jobs. Congress Party proved once again that it has lost the pulse of common people in India and didn't learn anything from the recent electoral drubbing.
     
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    Shahsi Tharoor is in big trouble for wanting to stop demonising Modi and getting down to the business of constructive politics..
     
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    Seems Investigative media is a very very good thing for our country today ... I so want to see the news of Mother-son-daughter and son-in-law flee the country
     
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    This weapons drop case,today another case AIRBUS-Air India scam is given go ahead.

    Subhramanyam swamy is fighting Herald land scam case.

    Tough days for them.

    Modi will hunt them slowly.
     
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    You quoted me so i'lll take the opportunity to reply , but i emphasize that theres nothing personal here
    Basically i mentioned that person's name as an indications that there are folks who in the future might take over leadership
    I'm not interested in whether ( as per your opinion ) they are capable or not whether in self -interest or not
    I was merely saying that there will be radical change in leadership - no comments as to whether it will be better or not
    just emphasizing the prediction on my part of radical change within the next 3 years.in the congo party ,
    Hope that's clear enough . :thumb:


    Fantastically well written - Love the way you summarized the situation and gave it a like .

    I think Shahshi has realized that congo is a sinking vessel and he wants to jump ship
    Not sure if that is the way to do it, but the man has been around and ought to know the way to his destination
     
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    This political party in its current form along with the entire "Gandhi" dynasty need to be put to rest once and for all. The Gandhi family is a virulent disease that ails Indian politics and unless this disease is eradicated there is no hope. But that is unlikely considering the entire party "unanimously refused to accept their resignations" in the aftermath of the election.
     
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    I Hope AIADMK and Navin patnaik Merge to one party just for the sake of it... 37+20 or AIADMK and Mamata 37+34 and claim LOP status.. just to Rub salt on the wounds of Congi
     
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    SYCOPHANCY, THY NAME IS DISASTER

    Surendra Kumar


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    Sonia-ji, The people’s verdict is out. Your party has suffered a staggering defeat; worst ever in its tumultuous history. Some say, you and your party deserved this fate; you had, in fact, assiduously worked for it. The Modi-led BJP has achieved an astonishing landslide, becoming the first non-Congress party in independent India to get a clear majority in Lok Sabha on its own. It has earned this historic victory. Voters of India have, once again, punished those who they thought did not respect their trust and voted for a change. They rewarded someone who has instilled a ray of hope in dark, gloomy, dispiriting days and promised “achhe din”. But it isn’t an open-ended carte blanche. When the time comes, the janata will take stock and pass its judgment again.

    You and Rahul have, rightly, accepted the responsibility for your party’s humiliating defeat. Is it enough? What next? As in the past, you and your disheartened and demoralized leaders will huddle together in a chintan shivir.But there will be no honest chintan; shameless sycophants will bark at every tree on Akbar Road, but won’t say what they really feel. There will be no soul-searching, no real post mortem of the debacle. They will parrot the usual platitudes, pay tribute to you and Rahul for your untiring efforts and leadership. But they won’t offer any meaningful and achievable road-map for revamping the sagging Congress, which is experiencing the most serious existential crises since its birth. None can blame them — chamchas will remain chamchas. With such incorrigible sycophants around you, do you need enemies?

    What has brought down the Congress? Anger. Anger against you. Anger against Rahul. And anger against the party and the government headed by Manmohan Singh. The causes of this anger are obvious: rampant corruption, misgovernance, rise in prices, unbearable arrogance, utter insensitivity to the pressing problems of the common people, antagonization of corporate India, the middle class and the media, slowing down of the economy, disconnection with the people at large, especially with the youth, and so on. Above all, the absence of an energetic, dynamic and inspiring leadership, which the people could look up to. The credibility of your party and the government has touched rock-bottom. While people were willing to believe every charge made against them, they discounted every word uttered in their defence. Apparently, the corruption charges stuck, but protestations and denials didn’t; they were dismissed disdainfully.

    Anna Hazare brought to the fore the people’s anger through his anti-corruption movement and demand for the passing of the lok pal bill. Kejriwal exacerbated and sharpened this anger with slogans against misgovernance, arrogance and callousness. Modi exploited this in the swell of people’s anger, exasperation, frustration and longing for a change to the hilt. He also offered a viable alternative of hope, effective governance and overall economic development riding on his 15-year record in Gujarat. Shrill charges of him being an authoritarian, communal, divisive person who promoted crony capitalism and whose economic development did not reach some sections or communities of the society were dismissed with a shrug as if saying, So what? An impressive orator in Hindi and adept in connecting with the audience, he led a nationwide presidential-style campaign aggressively, energetically, tirelessly and inspiringly. It was executed by lakhs of committed and disciplined RSS cadre, an upbeat and focused BJP and hundreds of tech-savvy youth who offered their time, energy, zeal and expertise to conduct the most high-octane electronic media campaign ever seen in India. Lastly, his campaign had inexhaustible funds.

    Modi is here to stay. Unless you perform a bold surgery fairly soon, the Congress is doomed. When a company makes huge losses, its CEO goes. It should be the same for a political party. You are the longest serving president of the Congress. You are rightly proud of having carried forward the legacy of this old party. Your family has made an enormous contribution to India. You have seen the Congress through in difficult times. I guess you love and care for this party. So, it was sensible for you and Rahul to offer to step down for the sake of the party. I do believe that, for you, party interests are higher than your own prestige. When you had declined to become prime minister, your stature went up. If you free the Congress from your family proprietorship, you will be hailed. Don’t pay heed to your party stalwarts to withdraw your resignation. You should do a Mandela. Remain a mentor, an elder statesperson, and recede into the background. You can still help the party regroup, reinvent and re-energize to fight another day. Priyanka connects with the masses with ease and is media-savvy. Unfortunately, in the prevailing atmosphere, her husband is her Achilles’ heel; he is readymade fodder for Modi and other detractors to attack her. Perceptions in politics matter more than reality does. Whether he can be legally prosecuted or not, perception persists that Vadra made quick money on account of his relations with your family. You can’t wish it away. To people, your claim of zero tolerance of corruption sounds hollow.

    Sycophants will tell you that the party will evaporate into thin air like camphor if you step aside. If the party is so weak and fragile, it should not exist. I believe it isn’t. Let it grow and stand on its own feet in the rough and tumble beyond the lengthening shadows of the family. If it has the DNA to survive, it will. The same is true for Rahul.

    In the 1960s, Nehru used the Kamraj plan to get rid of the old guards of the Congress. Fortunately for you, deadwoods of the Congress have already been wiped out in this election. Those who have won are those who have nurtured their constituencies and enjoy their trust. Let these brave hearts form the core to rebuild the party from the grassroots. Congressmen should forget about power for five years and connect with people in villages, kasbas, towns, cities, state capitals and their outskirts including slums on a daily basis to listen to their problems, take them up with the concerned authorities and get them redressed at the earliest. They should fight for the rights of the people and win their hearts and create a new brand equity for the Congress: Har musibat mein aapke saath, Congress ka haath. It isn’t easy but it can be done. It needs selfless, dedicated, motivated, proactive workers who undertake this work with missionary zeal. Is there anyone in the Congress at the moment who can instil hope, zeal and confidence, and inspire the party to fight back? What about Jyotiraditya Scindia? He has the pedigree, experience, maturity and capability to energise and transform Congress into a fighting force. And I believe, he is still loyal to your family, so the idea shouldn’t scare you. Give it a thought; it isn’t as crazy as it sounds.

    Surendra Kumar,

    Your well-wisher.

    The author is a former ambassador

    Sycophancy, thy name is disaster
     
  19. Ray

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    One cannot be a Leader of the Opposition by forming an association of political parties.

    There has been many years during Nehru's time and even in Indira Gandhi's time, when there was no Leader of the Opposition since no other party had 10% of the seats of the Lok Sabha.

    There should be no leader of the Opposition even now.
     
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    A political Union as in a front/Alliance LOP not possible.. Merger of the two political parties will give them the chance to do that.. since its 100% merger they will also get to keep the seats
     
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    I think you meant WISH instead of HOPE?
     
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