The dispute regarding Nepalese migration to India

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  1. Waffen SS

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    Nepalese migration to India. It is mainly happening in West Bengal's Darjeeling district and Dooars area of Jalpaiguri district. A surprising fact is when we meet Nepalese they refer them as Nepalese but when they go to Political sector then they refer themselves as Gurkha. These people came from Nepal and have vast difference with Bengalis in culture, Bengalis are generally a bit conservative, less wild in culture when these immigrants are wild in culture.

    Nepali Indian - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    And this migration's result in demand in Gorkhaland, Gorkhaland is supposed to be state of people who are living in West Bengali's hill areas and have Gurkha ethnicity in addition these immigrants are taking job from Bengalis, many jobs such as security guard, Nurse etc are full with Nepalese people and people from North India, forcing Bengalis to quit West Bengal for South Indian states, these people dont speak Bengali language as a result Bengalis are becoming minority day by day in their own state.

    Gorkhaland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Now what is Gurkha? many call it an Nepalese tribe. Really?

    Gurkha is word that was used to refer British-Indian army's soldiers who are from Nepal. Any one able bodied Nepali can join Indian army and be a Gurkha soldier.

    So it is easy to understand supporters of Gurkhaland why use the term "Gurkha" instead of Nepalese, the state what they are claiming is actually for Nepalese, since every Nepalese is supposed to be Gurkha. Hence Nepaleseland this sounds not good(as Nepal is a foreign state) so they use the term Gurkha.

    So should this be allowed? What will happen to Bengali's and Bengali language who are becoming increasingly minority in their own state by Hindi speaking people and Nepalese?

    Please comment.

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  3. Ray

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    Gorkha District is a part of Gandaki Zone, is one of the seventy-five districts of Nepal, and home of legendary Gurkha soldiers.

    Since a majority were recruited from this district, the Nepalese in the Army were called Gorkhas.

    All Nepali people are not Gorkha.

    The Gorkhaland movement is also claiming Dooars.

    However, the Dooars belonged to the Koch Kingdom.

    It is the land of numerous tribes, including the Bodos, the Rabhas, the Mechs, the Totos, the Koch Rajbongshis. There are also the Nepali people, mostly in the tea estates.

    The Oraons, Mundas, Kharia, Mahali, Lohara and Chik Baraik who were imported from the Chotanagpur areas as labour for the tea gardens are also in large numbers.

    This area is a real pot-pourri of movements. and the region has suffered from ethnic strife. The Bodoland agitation in Assam for a separate state for the Bodo people and the Kamtapur or Greater Cooch Behar movement for a Kamtapur state in northern Bengal for the Rajbongshis are the two most vociferous ones.The Adivasi (Tribal) of Dooars are demanding autonomy under the Sixth Schedule of the Indian Constitution. The Nepalis have also demanded that the area be included in their territory.

    It must be understood that the Lepchas, who are the actual inhabitants of the Darjeeling and Kalimpong Hills, though are clubbed as Nepali by the Gurkha Janmukti Morcha (GJM) are really not Nepali.

    Therefore, this area is full of contradictions and different aspirations.

    Mamata Bannerjee has taken up the cause of the Lepchas very astutely in a political sense, and has diffused the growing ascendancy of the GJM.

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    I have no problems with Nepalis in Bengal, They are kinda fashionable people dress more American than a American :D

    Majority of recruits in GR units comes from them only and people in N,E and norther India, not from Nepal ..

    I would consider Bangladeshi immigrants who look like us ( Dont work or behave like us ) and they are the one taking jobs so does fake citizenship under present state Government there..
     
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    The question is how many of the gurkhas want a real gurkha land in bengal? It is just a power play of the politicians. As they can never be in majority and get the post of CM they are claiming a separate land for themselves so that they can enjoy the power and authority without any sort of competition, and nothing else. The common people will never ask for it as they are very much dependent on economy of Bengal. I have been there and have talked to many of the ethnic gurkha people, they are really pissed of with the bandhs and utter nonsensical politics which is destroying their economy and growth. Their main industry Tourism is getting hampered. Bloody politicians.
     
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    The question is how many of the gurkhas want a real gurkha land in bengal? It is just a power play of the politicians. As they can never be in majority and get the post of CM they are claiming a separate land for themselves so that they can enjoy the power and authority without any sort of competition, and nothing else. The common people will never ask for it as they are very much dependent on economy of Bengal. I have been there and have talked to many of the ethnic gurkha people, they are really pissed of with the bandhs and utter nonsensical politics which is destroying their economy and growth. Their main industry Tourism is getting hampered. Bloody politicians.
     
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    Darjeeling, and surrounding areas, have historically been home of Tibetan Lepcha, Bhutia, and related tribes. It was originally part of Sikkim, which by extension of being a Tibetan vassal, makes Darjeeling a historical part of the Tibetan Empire. Geographically, it is in the Himalayas, the southern part of the Tibetan Plateau. Nepalese (or Gurkhas if you will), and Bengalis, neither belong to Darjeeling, as both are migrants communities anyway.

    The word Darjeeling comes from a Tibetan word, Dorjee, which means lightning, and is a common name amongst people of Tibetan ethnicity.
     
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    The main failure of Bengalis was,they did not send Nepalese kids to Bengali medium schools. Mother tongue as MOI plays key part in cultural integration. All though Nepalese live in Darjeeling area, very few of them speak Bengali, so this cultural distance plays key part. If Nepalese kids were sent to Bengali schools instead of English school then today Nepalese would be more Bengalanized, then demand of Gorkhaland would not arrive at all.
     
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    Bengal is a mixed bag.

    In this small land mass called Bengal there are the Koch in the North in Cooch Behar, Rajbonhsi in the North, Nepali (some hold dual passports i.e. Indian as also Nepalese) in the Darjeeling and Dooar belt and Santhal down South.
     

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