The Communist Conspiracy against India

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    http://voiceofdharma.org/books/hsus/ch5.htm

    I will quote from the above article by Sita Ram Goel on how Communist ideology works/has worked in the past. Use this thread to post your views on how to combat and expose this ideology. The article was written before disintegration of USSR, so many points would be historic, but true in any case.


    What, then, is Communism?

    Scholars and historians of Communism far more competent than the present writer have documented it beyond a shadow of doubt that Communism has been an instrument of Soviet foreign policy in its drive towards world domination, particularly since Stalin emerged as the undisputed leader of the Soviet Union as well as the world Communist movement. The unmasking of Stalin as a mass-murderer by Khruschev has blown up the myth of Soviet Russia as a proletarian paradise. The split with China has splintered the world Communist monolith. But, by and large, the movement has recovered from these shocks, retained its self-righteousness and resumed its role in the service of Soviet foreign policy.

    It is, therefore, natural and inevitable that Communism should come into conflict with positive nationalism in every country. India cannot be an exception. By positive nationalism we mean a nationalism which draws its inspiration from its own cultural heritage and socio-political traditions. Such a nationalism has its own way of looking at world events and evaluating the alignment of world forces. Such a nationalism is guided by its own past experience in safeguarding its interests and pursuing its goals.

    This basic dissonance between Communism and positive nationalism in India was fully and finally dramatised during the Second World War. The Communist Party of India had, since its inception, opposed British imperialism in India and stood for its immediate and violent overthrow. The Party had also opposed the Muslim League which it had characterised as a collaborationist conspiracy of landed interests. In the eyes of Indian freedom fighters, therefore, the Party represented a revolutionary fringe of the nationalist movement. The Congress Socialist Party even allowed its platform to be used by the Communist Party of India which was working under a British ban. But the curtain was raised suddenly in 1941 when Hitler invaded the Soviet Union and the real face of Communism was revealed for all who could see.

    The Congress leadership had tried to negotiate a settlement with the British for two long years. Finding the British attitude adamant, the Congress decided in August 1942 to launch the Quit India Movement. The Communists in the Congress opposed the Quit India resolution in the AICC Session at Bombay. They propounded that the imperialist war had been transformed into a people�s war simply because the Soviet Union had been invaded by an enemy of Britain.

    So communists sided with USSR during WW2. They can try to justify it in many ways, but for them solidarity with USSR was more important than Indian freedom struggle.

    The freedom movement forged ahead under its own inspiration. But the Communist Party of India moved full steam in the opposite direction. British imperialism now became British bureaucracy for the Communists, the Muslim League a spokesman of the Muslim mass upsurge, and the demand for Pakistan a legitimate expression of Muslim nationalism which the Congress should concede immediately. The rest of the story is well-known-the story of how the freedom movement was branded as a movement for collaboration with Fascism, how Subhash Chandra Bose was denounced as a Nazi dog and a Japanese rat, how Communist cadres spied for the British secret police on Socialists and Forward Blocists who had organised an underground movement, and how the Communist intellectuals like Adhikari and Ashraf blueprinted the case for Pakistan with facts, figures, academic arguments and sentimental slogans.



    The methods which Communism employs in India to denigrate and denounce the votaries of positive nationalism are the standard Communist methods it uses everywhere around the world. Here we shall concretise three of its chief methods under Indian conditions:

    1. Communism in India has developed a language which George Orwell has described as doublespeak. In this language, the traitorous and totalitarian forces represented by the Communist movement are presented as patriotic and democratic forces, collaborators with Communism as progressive people, Islamic imperialism as secularism, and positive nationalism as Hindu communalism and chauvinism. Many people do not know how to decipher this doublespeak and are, therefore, trapped by it;1

    2. Communism in India constantly practises what Karl Popper so aptly expounded �as the conspiracy theory of society�. It goes on digging up one conspiracy after another against the working class, the peasantry, the middle class, the toiling masses, Secularism, and so on. In this scheme, it links up �Hindu communalism and chauvinism� with capitalism, landlordism, forces of obscurantism, revivalism and reaction and, finally, all of them with �American imperialism�. The forces of �democracy and progress� are then called upon to rally round the Communist movement to defeat the �grand conspiracy between American imperialism outside and reactionary Hindu communalism within�. This helps the Communist cadres to acquire a rare depth of perception without exercising their brains. The less they know and think, the better they feel and function. Recently, Communism has discovered a conspiracy of �Hindu communalism� to kill Muslims and destroy Muslim property whenever and wherever Muslims show some signs of prosperity;

    3. Communism in India wields a strong-worded swearology which it hurls at its adversaries. Some samples of this swearology will illumine the venom which it can carry. During the Ranadive party-line in 1948-50, Mahatma Gandhi was �unmasked� as the cleverest bourgeois scoundrel and Rabindranath as mãgeer dãlãl, that is, a pimp. But the choicest reprimand was reserved for Sardar Patel and Pandit Nehru �the fascist duo�. Parichaya, the prestigious Bengali monthly, came out with a long poem on the two of them �conspiring together in the service of American imperialism�. One of the lines exposed them as shyãlã shooarer bãcchã, birlã tatãr jãroja shontãna, that is, sons of swine and the bastard progeny of Birlas and Tatas. But, then, you cannot pin the Communists to any of their past performances. They always �admit their mistakes� publicly and do a bit of chest-beating whenever they receive orders to change the Party line. At present, the bulk of Communist swearology is being mobilised against the camp of positive nationalism. People belonging to this camp are being daily denounced as communalists, chauvinists, fascist murderers of minorities, perpetrators of genocide, reactionaries and revivalists. The tone is still mild, keeping in mind how mendacious it could easily become at a moment�s notice. But there are intimations that it may resume its full powers of rhetoric as and when required.2
     
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    I think this video is very appropriate for the thread.

    If you notice, commies usually attack the cultural icons of the society wherever they are- xtianity in west, Hindus/hinduism in Indian. Because commies at the very heart hate the present cultural order.


    The video beautifully explains why preserving and fighting for your culture is the best defence against the commie clowns, and not just free market.


    I highly recommend it!
     
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    This is also the reason why they are apparently OK with Islam while they are opposing karva chowth- Islam is just an easy tool for them to destroy our culture.
     
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    This phenomenon (normative inversion) is rooted in Judaism :)

    http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/...ng-beef-8-arrested.71521/page-24#post-1087100
     
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    They have almost completely succeeded in destroying family, culture, personal responsibility in the west to the point of forcing everyone to be dependant on the state with feminism

    If you think about it- a fatherless child needs a welfare while a strong family tie resetns having to beg the state. A cultured woman, would be much more smarter in choosing their partners while " liberated " women would fuck around with meatheads getting unwanted children, which would necessitate state care and welfare. Men having families, would have to be responsible with their spendings and savings and would hate govt interfering with anything in their life, while men hooked to welfare/support systems would be totally dependant on a nanny state. All of this would be very continent for the commies to advance their goals of a strong and intrusive state which has Kore power over the individual than the individual themselves.


    Even here, they have started doing the same- glorification of single woman hood, destruction of our family values(with marital rape or other crap), and what not!
     
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    Perfect analysis. Couldn't have said it better!
     
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    Are we talking of sex or reproduction?

    Agreed that unwanted children necessitate state care and welfare. But then, fucking around doesn't necessarily result in children.

    So is the argument moral ("fucking is against moral values") or pragmatic ("producing kids without a thought for the expenses and support necessitates state support")? Just trying to understand.
     
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    India was itself divided in the blocks,

    The Nazi Block, The Allied Block, the Communist Block.

    the agencies keep watch on communism around the world, because it affects our politics, plus the china russia factor.

    Correct, these terms are used to influence the foreign policy world wide. It's power play!
     
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    This is exactly how those communist subhumans work. They always dig up conspiracies, always foul mouth Hindu religion while kissing Islam. Always try to peddle a false liberation of women, which is just the same as encouraging prostitution. And whenever necessary, use the most brutal violence. Death to commies.
     
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    I don't care about their sex life. And of course, morality is a subjective term. What I am talking about is the pragmatic view of the issue. And even the west pre feminism, which was liberal wrt sex has strong family values unlike today. Even India could have a sexually liberal society with strong family values. But the core of a civilisation is the family ties and values. That's something we can never compromise

    What I am opposed to is them fucking worthless trash and ending up with children they can't raise up,and then demand the state for welfare.

    This is not a problem in India- noy yet. it's a huge problem in the west. Once you start giving into welfare, there is no stopping it. And of course, those fatherless kids are far more likely to commit crime too.

    There is a reason family structure was given so much importance in our tradition and why India has such a low level of crimes even when there is so much poverty.
     
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    + Love Jihad.

    Feminists teach girls that fornication and adultery are signs of emancipation. I don't think we should complain about Love Jihad if we want to go that route. Look at the grooming of White & Indian girls in UK. Bhayrappa's book "Aavarna" specifically talks about this problem.

    http://www.amazon.com/Aavaran-The-Veil-S-L-Bhyrappa/dp/8129124882
     
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    In India LEFT had neither place in the past nor in the present because CONgress itself is a left-wing party.

    License Raj,Planning commission,No Pvt Media,Nationalization of Banks,sharia law for muzzies and soon till 1991.We are unique case under the disguise of democracy we ruled by Left(Congress).

    Now we transformed/ruled by a Central-wing party BJP. May be after 12 yrs some real Right wing party may arise.(as per your wish)

    Defense is over left is dead even before born,those who self proclaimed leftists are nothing but Idiots(or Congress stooges) now it's time to be offensive.If we successfully eradicate the congress in few years then your wish 2nd RW will arise.My guess after 12 yrs:D
     
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    Promoting unbridled hedonism among Hindus and hardcore Islamism among Muslims.

    Who do you think will win in the end ? Muslims are breeding 6-7 kids while Hindus think DINK lifestyle , family breakdown, consumerism, feminism, materialism etc is the means to attain lasting success.

    Hindus cheer Jews a lot but don't learn much from them. How nations are built, how power is established. Look at Haredi's for starters and the impact they are having on army + politics.
     
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    In general, I think welfarism and state-doles and handouts should be completely scrapped except for really special cases. That is more related to socialist mentality and has its roots in Nehruvian economic indoctrination. It is more an economic issue than a social one, IMO.

    We've discussed feminism threadbare, especially when dear @Rashna used to be active around here. I think we all despise the faux feminism that is permeating into Indian society these days. It is more of an entitlement thing and less of real equality. Indian feminists want sops and pandering, but no responsibilities.

    But we might be going down a slippery slope when we try to reconcile a sexually liberal society with strong family values. By definition, a sexually liberal society cannot have the same kind of family values that a traditionalist society does. A sexually liberal individual (male or female) can either be married or unmarried. In the former case, we are getting into the territory of adultery. In the latter case, we are getting into late marriages/bachelors/spinsters. In both cases, there are no family values to speak of.

    I don't see any possibility to reconcile these two opposing aspects. Family values versus sexual liberalism. I personally feel we need to clearly define what works w.r.t. right wing philosophy and thought and what won't. I would like cultural rootedness - we need an identity, and our civilizational identity is what keeps us together, and is what will take us forward. I would like right-wing economic thought (duh, but of course!).

    However, we might be better off letting individualism rule the roost. After all, times change and the very definition of philosophies change. One reason the right-wing in India is despised is because they cannot connect with the youth. And let's face it. This is the WhatsApp generation, the internet generation, the 4G generation. Information and freedom is at its peak. And this will only increase. Curbing individualism will only fan contempt and derision for the right wing. The "Modi wave" is the saving grace for us right-wingers - till 2013, most youth looked at BJP/saffron with utter contempt, as some old fogeys, "uncool people", people who beat up girls and boys, and all that stuff. The Modi wave has brought several youth to the right, but things can change.

    Of course, welfare-state doleouts should not be encouraged, and there shouldn't be perverse incentives to reproduce just for the sake of state benefits. Right-wing economic philosophy is even more critical, the need of the hour. Just trying to define how the right-wing thought needs to shape up in this nation.
     
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    Curbing individualism and beating up love couples VHP style is a recipe for disaster. There is a reason I have nothing but contempt for those clowns and RSS in the way it deals with it. Instead, they should be promoting family values and ideals as cool things to the youth in social media and with intellectual think tanks.

    I won't be against the inculcation of our cultural values from schools.
     
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    I don't think asking Hindus to have more children is feasible. Hindus are more interested in quality over quantity and are less likely to think about common Hindu good.

    I think Muslims should be reduced to having 1 child per couple. That's how you fight this war by slow attrition.. This is much more feasible, albeit a bit difficult. This also makes sure that we don't have to shoot ourselves in the foot for winning this war
     
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    You underlined the problem well. Family values and liberal sex cannot go together. It's a slippery road.

    Free sex is fun but gives unwanted kids on the way. Then society has no option but to pay for these kids because otherwise society is even more screwed if it doesn't give welfare benefits. Even after handing out benefits these kids are more of a burden on the society.

    I still could not think of a way to reconcile it except the fact that in Europe deeply religious people have more stable families. But most people here are secular and brainwashed by the left. So the only way forward for India or Hindus in particular is to follow their customs and not fall for pop Hinduism. I cannot think of an alternative.

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    I think we should start an open-source project for an Indian right-wing agenda for the future. Collect all ideas, debate them, put them to vote and build a set of protocols and standards which can be used as templates and guidelines by RW parties. Similar to the way the internet protocols (HTTP, FTP, etc.) and other standards (XML, SQL, etc.) are defined. The protocols and standards are clearly defined in a public document and various vendors implement them (Oracle, MS SQL, etc. in the case of SQL for example).

    We should cover all points - economic, individualistic, cultural, sexual, education, etc. :D
     
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    What is your view on free sex WITHOUT unwanted kids?

    Just doing groundwork and gathering info for the "RW protocols and standards" project as outlined in my earlier post.
     

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