The British industry during the Raj floundered because of India

[Ray]

Not just hypocrites, historically unread ones, too. It isn't the first time in British history that our love of globalisation has cost British people their jobs - the jute mills of Dundee were ruined by cheaper competition from India yet you won't hear many people on here crying about what a horrible time the Victorian Era was.

If I seem to be gloating, I am. I love the sight of self-alleged patriots foundering on the rocks of their addiction to free trade. The nation and the free market are two separate systems and I can't see why it's surprising that their interests diverge.

Supposing someone who is from Britain said the above and also claimed the following about the British Raj:

1. That the UK industry suffered because of cheaper stuff in India like the Jute Mills of Dundee suffered.

2. That the British brought in the Railway and Telegraph to unify India.

3. That it is because of the British that India is where it is!

4. And what is said above.

5. India was a whiteman's burden?

What would you say?

 

[LurkerBaba]

Is this ARRSE ?

 

[Iamanidiot]

Brigadier the ancestors of the shit inside ARRSE (of which you are a member)used to import raw materials from India and sell finished goods back in India destroying the Indian artisans in the process.Only when the Parsis started enterpreneurrhip did they start getting screwed India

 

[civfanatic]

What would you say?

I would say that the person who wrote the above was an ignorant ARRSEhole.

 

[Iamanidiot]

Even then they tried counter vailing excise duties on Indian goods.But it didn't work.On another note the American Civil War is closely relatf to 1857 revolt

 

[The Messiah]

What would you say?

I'd say that anyone who believes that is an ass and then i would ->

 

[trackwhack]

Two part answer.

The British industry and their economy in general profited enormously from exploiting India during the Raj
The British industry will pretty much be crushed by India (and China, though to a lesser extent) in the next 3 to 4 decades and there isnt anything the British can do except buy stake in Indian industry and make ends meet through a small royalty.

 

[Mad Indian]

Oh boy the Brits really are not taking their fall that good are they?

USA Rocks when we compare them with these bunch of Brain Farts- Form the Fifty First State of USA

WHY USA WHY? Why is one of your state so rogue?Cant you Bitch slap them from time to time?

Any way Me likes the way they Whine

 

[Kunal Biswas]

2. That the British brought in the Railway and Telegraph to unify India.

About Specially this one, Without Railway one cannot extract huge natural resources for Queen & Country, So does transportation of troops and material for English cause, There is nothing about gift or greatly PR about unification via Railways..

 

[Yusuf]

All I can say is if that was the case, they should have left India just after they got trounced by the US. They had a lot of time to realize that India is draining their industry over the 19th century and could have even used the excuse of 1857 revolt to leave. But then, they didn't. One thing is for sure. If WWII had not happened, we may still have been part of the "empire" as the Brits had to grudgingly leave India.

 

[pankaj nema]

People just comment without knowing anything

The British RAJ or British Crown started its RULE Formally in 1857 -58

But from 1757 to 1857 East India Company was SYSTEMATICALLY destroying Indian Traditional Industries

When ever East India Company defeated a King they forced the Farmers and artisans to
work according to the needs of the British Industry

India became a supplier of Raw Materials and a consumer of British factory made goods

 

[pankaj nema]

The British were dead against Indian Industrialisation and manufacturing units

All they wanted was India to remain a consumer of their products

That is why when Mr Jamshet ji Tata wanted to start TATA steel Some Britisher Remarked that
he would EAT Indian Steel because Indians CANNOT make good steel

This is an EXCERPT from an article

In his tortuous journey, he had to suffer the scorn of people such as Sir Frederick Upcott, the chief commissioner of the Great Indian Peninsular Railway, who promised to "eat every pound of steel rail [the Tatas] succeed in making"

Jamsetji Tata Nation Building Mission, Indian Steel Pioneer Biography

 

[Yusuf]

The British were dead against Indian Industrialisation and manufacturing units

All they wanted was India to remain a consumer of their products

That is why when Mr Jamshet ji Tata wanted to start TATA steel Some Britisher Remarked that
he would EAT Indian Steel because Indians CANNOT make good steel

This is an EXCERPT from an article

In his tortuous journey, he had to suffer the scorn of people such as Sir Frederick Upcott, the chief commissioner of the Great Indian Peninsular Railway, who promised to "eat every pound of steel rail [the Tatas] succeed in making"

Jamsetji Tata Nation Building Mission, Indian Steel Pioneer Biography

How many pounds did he eat? Or was he made to eat his words?

 

[pankaj nema]

How many pounds did he eat? Or was he made to eat his words?

What happened was that India finally began some Industrialisation

The Industrial revolution had "Passed " by India before Mr Tata gathered courage and
started Tata Steel

But After Mr Jamshet ji Tata ; Birlas ; Bajaj and a few other Industrialists got a lot of courage
and set up a few Industries in and around Mumbai Calcutta and Madras

So around 1947 India was having a MODEST Industrial base and we could
move forward from there

 

[balai_c]

The British were dead against Indian Industrialisation and manufacturing units

All they wanted was India to remain a consumer of their products

That is why when Mr Jamshet ji Tata wanted to start TATA steel Some Britisher Remarked that
he would EAT Indian Steel because Indians CANNOT make good steel

This is an EXCERPT from an article

In his tortuous journey, he had to suffer the scorn of people such as Sir Frederick Upcott, the chief commissioner of the Great Indian Peninsular Railway, who promised to "eat every pound of steel rail [the Tatas] succeed in making"

Jamsetji Tata Nation Building Mission, Indian Steel Pioneer Biography

Great find pankaj !!

 

[Anubhav T.]

A great observation by David Malone (Carnegie Council) about how brits exploited India

 

[agentperry]

well off topic but India is right now sourcing fertilizer from oman which is made in oman only by Indo-omani JV. the gas to its plant is sold to Indian companies by omani govt at concessional rate of $3 per mmbtu. this is 1/6 of the price in intl market.

the logic is that every rising power dos the same thing. plunder the remaining world

 

[Mad Indian]

well off topic but India is right now sourcing fertilizer from oman which is made in oman only by Indo-omani JV. the gas to its plant is sold to Indian companies by omani govt at concessional rate of $3 per mmbtu. this is 1/6 of the price in intl market.

the logic is that every rising power dos the same thing. plunder the remaining world

Yeah well the thing is Oman is no fool to give it without any benefits for them in that. after all they are still a politically independent country. I think they may be giving it at a low cost for getting finished materials back at a low cost for them.

 

[pankaj nema]

well off topic but India is right now sourcing fertilizer from oman which is made in oman only by Indo-omani JV. the gas to its plant is sold to Indian companies by omani govt at concessional rate of $3 per mmbtu. this is 1/6 of the price in intl market.

the logic is that every rising power dos the same thing. plunder the remaining world

Not only we are Paying Oman TAXES for this Fertiliser Project But It being a JOINT Venture
Oman will get a share of profits too

Oman is also GAINING ; It is beneficial for both Countries

Secondly Gas market has become competitive and if Buyers are not found in time
A lot of Gas is Flared ie Burned

So Oman has made a wise investment in this project