Thane murders:Was it a ritual qurbani by Hasnain Anwar

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    While talking about the 35-year-old, friends and neighbours said they occasionally used to approach him to assist during a ‘qurbani’. “During festivities, people from the Kasarwadavli village would sometimes approach him to sacrifice a goat and it worked in their favour as he owned a cleaver,” said an officer requesting anonymity. Investigators at the spot where Hasnain is alleged to have killed 14 members of his family before hanging himself said they were struck at the swiftness with which he appeared to have gone about his task, slitting throats — not once but 14 times — reportedly with not a single false stroke.

    “He was a namaazi, very religious.
    But he had more faith in a priest curing him rather than a doctor.The proponents of this theory say Hasnen possibly had a skewed understanding of the concept of ‘qurbani’ which possibly led to the ritual killing. They point out that all throats were slit with a butcher’s knife.Neighbours said the family kept to itself and was extremely religious.

    Possible motive: Sources said that Hasnen’s wife Jabin was found disrobed in the bedroom. “She was stark naked with not even a bed-sheet covering her body,” said a woman who helped bring the bodies out of the house.


    http://www.nyoooz.com/mumbai/373085...-hit-us-all-with-a-cleaver-says-sole-survivor

    http://www.freepressjournal.in/was-it-a-ritual-qurbani/792181
     
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  4. Nuvneet Kundu

    Nuvneet Kundu Senior Member Senior Member

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    If a secular is killed by another secular, is it a secular murder or a communal murder? or rather, we should debate whether it is a murder at all, or just a peaceful activity.
     
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    you hide the fact that a secular was involved. na rahega baans, na bajegi baansuri! this was caught by @saty y'day (hasnil vs hasnain).
     
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    whr invaders hv been eulogised, heroes binned!!
    in another news, it was being pointed out that the possible motive could've been a property-dispute.
     
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    buddy, they keep an animal with them for one month and one day , they chop it slowly... as if it's their son.

    Which means, these people can go to any extent for their false believes.
     
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    The only thing that saved Sobiya Bharmal from becoming the 15th victim of her brother’s murderous rampage was her cold, which is the reason she didn’t drink the cold drink that had been spiked with sedatives. But this is cold comfort to the 22-year-old who witnessed her brother butchering her entire family, including her infant daughter, Alfiya.

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    She told them: ‘I was asleep, when I saw Hasnain killing my sister with a sharp knife on the throat. He slit my daughter’s throat too. I saw what was happening, but couldn’t react.” But when Hasnain went towards her, Sobiya stood up and fought him. She was injured on her neck and cheek, but managed to run past him and save herself.


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    "people from the village would ask him to sacrifice a goat"(Qurbani 'Religious offering')

    "slit the throats(HALAL killings) of his entire family using a knife meant for slaughtering goats"

    "Warekar had drugged his family once before; a deeply religious man (he had a thought before)..."
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    He Sacrificed (Qurbani) his entire family to his GOD
    Case solved! but media never report it openly.
    :cool1:

    http://www.mid-day.com/articles/tha...lf-lone-survivor-was-saved-by-a-cold/16996175
     
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    Motive kuch bhi ho, the driving factor is that people who are taught hate as a doctrine can turn any excuse into 'motive'. It is a known medical fact that childhood animal cruelty was a common behaviour among serial murderers and rapists and an early indicator of psychopathic tendencies (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macdonald_triad)

    This is the reason that wherever the Abrahamic influence starts taking hold in society, anti-animal tendencies start emerging as a pattern. This is the onset of the loss of collective consciousness among human beings, which means that the person ceases to empathize with animals, and later, other human beings. You'd remember that a couple of months back, Kerala started a viscous drive of killing stray dogs under some lame pretext. It was an indicator the same cancer taking root in society.

    This is a more readily occurring phenomena in monotheistic societies which have no concept of a Parmatma (common soul), or more colloquially known as collective consciousness. That's why it's notable that even the Mughal dynasty was rife with sons killing their brothers and fathers for selfish reasons. If a rich prince with limitless wealth doesn't think twice before killing his own parents, it's clear that the nominal materialistic gains are orthogonal to the killer's integral thought process. It's not simply a matter of material compulsions that motivates these people. It's a very deep psychological motivation that stems from ideology, more than financial circumstances. The materialistic reasons serve only as superficial excuses.
     
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    - a coursemate of mine from Rajasthan used to recount a belief popular among the people there at his place that muzzies used to force their kids to watch the killing of an animal, to make them merciless & 'tough'.

    - recently the vatican decided to revisit their idea of animals not having souls, a 'theory' on which they used to advocate killing & eating of animals for 'they have been sent by God for human consumption'. looks like tough gastronomic times ahead for xtians? aah! they'll squeeze themselves out using some another manufactured 'revelation' again!

    but yes, whatever be the motive, you have very correctly enunciated the underlying psychomatic conditions/causes! dajjal for his family this hasnil, i mean, hasnain.
     
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    Thane murders: police probing human sacrifice theory

    The Thane police probing the massacre, in which a 35-year-old man allegedly killed 14 members of his family, are awaiting the statement of the lone survivor, Subiya Barmal, to ascertain the motive.

    The police probe has revealed that Hasnain Warekar killed his family members by slitting their throats before allegedly committing suicide at Kasarvadavli village. So far, they have eliminated the possibility of involvement of other people.

    The police are probing several theories, which include human sacrifice, property or family dispute and mental illness as possible motives.

    “Investigations point out that the deceased were either asleep or sedated when murdered. There are no signs of forced entry and the witness survivor, Subiya, has seen her brother killing. Looking at the way the throats were slit, it looks it was done by someone used to slaughtering. We’ve gathered that Hasnain used to carry out animal sacrifices,” said Ashutosh Dumbre, joint commissioner of police, Thane.

    The police are relying on two factors for clarity — the results of the food samples and Subiya’s statement. “The food samples will throw light on whether Hasnain’s family members were sedated. Subiya, who has sustained serious injuries, is in a state of shock. She has been asking about her infant daughter and has not been told she has been killed. We will get a clarity based on her statement,” added Dumbre.

    The police have checked Hasnain’s father, Anwar’s, laptop and mobile phone, but did not find any incriminating content. Anwar was a trustee of Parfeshi Baba mosque at Anand Nagar. According to the police, Hasnain was religious and offered prayers five times a day. They added that the family was “well to do”.

    “We are seeking property details of t he family. Investigations have revealed that the family was involved in a property dispute,” said Dumbre.

    The police have found some medicines in the house that they said may have been prescribed by dermatologists for children. They said they have not found medicines for mental illness or depression. “Hasnain’s relatives, who live in the village, said he was a good man. We trying to find out who he had been meeting and if they influenced him in any way,” said Dumbre.
     
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    Now Namazi is open:hail:


    Mumbai : The Thane police are working on the angle that the 36-year-old youth who killed 14 members of his family at Kasarwadawali had perhaps started to enjoy the act of butchering goats, and took his habit to the extreme and committed the murders.Police sources said the culprit was in the regular habit of butchering goats and had become quite good at it and was in fact even called by people in the neighborhood for this. “We are trying to find out if he had gotten so habituated to this act that he started feeling pleasure in this and hence committed the murders,” said an officer connected with the case.

    This ties in with the fact that even though his victims were under the influence of some sedative, they were not completely unconscious. “They were only in a state of sleep and hence would have definitely felt the pain when Warekar was trying to kill them. And it is possible that this is exactly what the culprit was trying to achieve,” he said. However, they were not able to resist the killing because they were not fully conscious and were not able to fight him off, said a doctor from Thane Civil Hospital.

    The officer said that the culprit does not appear to have any history of psychiatric illness and was in fact the role model for people in the area.A senior doctor from Thane Civil Hospital explained that the killing had been done by a clear slit across the throat and in which the major artery got cut.”Since this was a major artery, the victims kept bleeding and their bodies went into a state of shock,” he said

    http://www.freepressjournal.in/thane-killing-had-killing-become-a-habit-for-warekar/793115

    Thane accountant Hasnain Warekar was not very active on social media, but a single message he had posted some time ago on his Google Plus account could provide a glimpse into his inner turmoil. The only group that he was a member of is a closed group that claims to promote religious.
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    Muslim name and Hindu surname; Probably a convert. Converts do the most fanatic things to prove their loyalty to their cult.
     
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    Tag him as a RSS extremist member. By the time that theory is disproved, stupid Indians commoners will just go along with the previous theory as it already has made an impression on them and they won't need to "think" too much about the new theory.
     
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    are not all so? :D
    Maharashtra has many such (Hindu surname muslim name); another example - zakir naik.
     
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    Are you kidding! all muzzies in the Ind-subcontinent are converts.

    See the faces of Irfan/Sr gay KHAN's who look like toilet cleaners with Mongolian 'KHAN' :p and many Rajput,Bhatt,Patel's and what not.

    I said already,Hindus are brainwashed by leftists&sickulars but in reality all muzzies are converted by muzzie invaders either by force or cowardice/traitors.Once Hindus know this (we must change the syllabus) all muzzies become 3rd class citizens in India.

    Even Arabs call them as 'Hind'.
     
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    Don't catch me over semantics man, we know all muslims are converts. But talking in colloquial terms a 'convert' usually means someone is talking about a 'recent convert'. (Salman Khan's father is a Pashtun, mother is a Burmese migrant)

    cc @OneGrimPilgrim
     
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    A lot of Deccani Muslims from Maharashtra have non-Arabopersian surnames with Marathi -kar endings. i.e. Dawood Kaskar.
     
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    there are others also.Also there is no such thing as "hindu" surnames they are Indian surnames.
     
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    this is peculiar. can you pls explain this a bit?
     
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    they strangely didn't opt for a full arabic name probably because these 'kar' titles don't have any Hindu connotations (if am not wrong) but denote one's familial vocation/native place, unlike many Hindu titles which have/denote, well, Hindu Gotra/traditions/varna. perhaps thats why you can find an Asif Kapadia but not Asif Kashyap/Chaturvedi, unless the offspring is from an inter-religious marriage (for the former title is 'religion-neutral' & denotes profession).
     

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