Discussion in 'Defence & Strategic Issues' started by ADITYA MAYUKH, Feb 27, 2013.
Can a lca mk 2 take on a f 16 blk 60
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The comparison of fighters is a waste of time. Even if you want to do, at least give enough substance in the first post instead of posting a one-liner.
Why don't you lay down the specifications and scenarios ?
Imo LCA mk2 can take on the F-16 Blk 60
Have you been kicked out of PDF???
Stupid question. One is a proven and reliable machine and the other has yet to enter service.
Please try to be practical here and not a fan boy. It will be a waste of time.
Lca is going to have ge 414 engine or kaveri and is going to house asea radar .it will also use any weapon which india acuire.it will have an user friendly cockpit
F-16 blk-60 is currently the most advanced version of the legendary aircraft which is being operated by U.A.E.,on the other hand LCA mk-2 is still on paper and i doubt it'll be a reality in the next couple of years!its like comparing apples with oranges.we should rather compare Tejas mk-2 with SAAB JAS 39 Gripen-NG(which is also a proposed upgraded version of the Gripen aircraft) as both of them are of similar capabilty although i would say that Gripen is slightly more advanced than the LCA mk-2
If it is a LUCKY day for Tajas and Pilot then only....
If equiped with Meteor missiles(tejas mk-2 is going to have interfaces for integerating meteor missiles as per ADA chief Subramnium's statement) and asea radars Tejas mk-2 can very well take on F-16 block 60 any day any time regardless of the pilot's luck.
Tejas will detect and track F-16 first and can obtain a radar lock and firing solution well before F-16 does the same to tejas due to lower RCS of Tejas(even with external stores the cumulative RCs of Tejas will be less than that of F-16 ) and with the proposed ASEA radar.
With the same asea and meteor combination TEjas can take on any heavy class or medium class of light class fighter that is presently operating in PLAF and PAF.
Since it is going to have the almost same radome dia and same meteor missile that RAFALE carries there is no bar on TEJAS's ability to do that.If it flies in mixed group with RAFALEs and SUKHOIS it can use their RADAR signals as a guide to it's air to air missiles in a net centric battlefield of tomorrow,
So in effect it is a great force multiplier while operating in mixed group or alone.
LCA can eat F-16 alive!
IF IF and IF....Let Tejas join service then we will talk... till then its an insult to VIPER for being compared with LCA...
Sorry to say but only in our dreams....
Lca is useless
Please post sources verifying your claims. The early f16c ie block 40 has a Rcs of 1.2m2. It is expected that the rcs of the block 60 will be atleast equal if not smaller than the block40. I seriously doubt the Tejas will manage an Rcs of under 1m2, which it must, according to your claims.
If the above condition is not satisfied, rather even if it is partially satisfied, your claim of first detection implies one of the two possible scenarios
1) either the radar cone of both the fighters is atleast same, or the tejas is bigger, which is simply not true
2) The T/R module quality and/or density and power of the modules of LCA will be better than that onboard the f16. It would be rather unrealistic to believe that the etlta2052 would match the performance module for module of the APG80, which is a recent development itself.
Its not like I wouldn't like the lca to match and even be superior to the block60. But ground reality is where we must stand on.
LCA vs F16 Block 60, cannot say much as these two aircraft have never gone head to head. The F16 is a fine piece of machine which has been a tried and tested platform in service with USA, Nato allies for over 4 decades on the other hand the LCA was in conceptional stage when the F16 was put in service in the late 70's, what needs to be stressed is the need to put the LCA in production and produce them in numbers required by the IAF and prospective export market once it is in full use it will mature with time and the feedback from the user will enable the HAL to iron out all the remaining issues. I am sure that with highly trained pilots,(a good pilot is as good as the aircraft) and an LCA with regular upgrads in avionics, power pack, weapons, sensors the LCA will become a formidable platform.
Lca mk 2 is a fine piece of art and tech .it has the one of the finest airframe in world and with good radar and bvr it can outclass f 16 blk 60
Come on we are not going to pitch LCAs against F16s , MKI will handle them.
A small point to be noted. Unlike Naval warfare, where in addition to the objective, one platform is marked or pitched against another platform, or in the army, where in the field engagements, different elements are designed and trained to pitch themselves against comparable or inferior elements, the AF tasking is done purely by the objective, be it AG strikes or CAPS or interceptor tasking. This means that an aircraft in the air could come against any other aircraft of the adversary. In our case, for eg. The SU30 might end up facing off against the j7 even, even though its biggest and preferred rival would be the f16.
As such, the query is not really an invalid one.
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