Technological advances to end China's manufacturing dominance

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    Technology advances to end China's manufacturing dominance, open up new possibilities for India - Page 2 - Economic Times

    While China raced ahead to become a manufacturing superpower, India focused on IT services. Without the infrastructure and ability to displace populations, India had little choice. Meanwhile, US manufacturing suffered a steady hollowing out as its corporations rushed to China. Seduced by government subsidies, cheap labour, lax regulations and a rigged currency, these corporations had little choice.

    The next decade will, however, show that China's manufacturing advantage was short-lived. Technology is changing so fast that its manufacturing industry is destined to suffer the same hollowing out as what the US experienced. That's because with robotics-based automation and the advent of digital manufacturing, it won't be economical to manufacture in China any more. Why ship raw materials all the way to China for assembly when they can be manufactured or be digitally 'printed' locally for a lower price? China's biggest advantage has been its cost of labour, but with robotic manufacturing, this cost shrinks to almost zero. The jobs that will be created with the new technologies will primarily be in design and service - the skills that are now in abundance in India thanks to its IT outsourcing industry.

    The technologies that will change the equation include robotics, artificial intelligence (AI), 3D printing and nanotechnology.

    Last week, a Boston-based company called Rethink announced a robot called Baxter that has two arms, a face that displays simulated emotion, and cameras and sensors that detect the motion of human beings that work next to it. It can perform assembly and move boxes - just like humans do. It will work 24 hours a day and cost only $22,000. This is just the latest advance. Robots are now capable of performing surgery, milking cows, doing military reconnaissance and combat, and flying fighter jets. In the US, 'do-it-yourselfers' are crowdsourcing the development of new capabilities for these robots. There are dozens of startups selling robot-development kits to university studentsand open-source communities. They are creating ever more sophisticated robots and applications for these. The factory assembly that the Chinese are performing is child's play for these robots.

    AI is software that makes computers do things that, if humans did, we would call intelligent. It is powering all sorts of technologies. This is the technology that IBM's Deep Blue computer used in beating chess grandmaster Garry Kasparov in 1997 and that enabled IBM's Watson to beat TV show Jeopardy champions in 2011. AI is making it possible to develop self-driving cars, voice-recognition systems such as Apple's Siri and computer systems that can make human-like decisions. AI technologies are also finding their way into manufacturing and are powering robots like Baxter.

    A type of manufacturing called 'additive manufacturing' is making it possible to cost-effectively 'print' products. In conventional manufacturing, parts are produced by humans using power-driven machine tools, such as saws, lathes, milling machines and drill presses, to physically remove material to obtain the shape desired. This is a cumbersome process that becomes more difficult and time-consuming with increasing complexity. In other words, the more complex the product you want to create, the more labour is required and the greater the effort.

    In additive manufacturing, parts are produced by melting successive layers of materials based on 3D models - adding materials rather than subtracting them. The '3D printers' that produce these use powered metal, droplets of plastic and other materials - much like the toner cartridges that go into laser printers. This allows the creation of objects without any sort of tools or fixtures. The process doesn't produce any waste material and there is no additional cost for complexity. Just as, in using laser printers, a page filled with graphics doesn't cost much more than one with text, in using a 3D printer, we can print sophisticated 3D structures for about the cost of a brick.

    3D printers can already create physical mechanical devices, medical implants, jewellery and even clothing. The cheapest 3D printers, which print rudimentary objects, currently sell for between $500 and $1,000 in the US. Soon, we will have printers for this price that can print toys and household goods. By the end of this decade, we will see 3D printers doing the small-scale production of previously labour-intensive crafts and goods. In the next decade, we will be 3D-printing buildings and electronics.

    Even if the Chinese automate their factories with AI-powered robots and manufacture 3D printers, it will no longer make sense to ship raw material all the way to China to have them assembled into finished products and shipped back to the rest of the world. Manufacturing will once again become a local industry in the US as it largely is in India, with products being manufactured near raw materials or markets.

    How will these advances affect India? Mostly in a positive way. For better or worse, India could never match China's manufacturing prowess, so it has little to lose. Since manufacturing is a local industry in India, it will benefit from better tools, materials and processes.

    Most importantly, India is a leader in the global knowledge economy. Instead of building a smog-producing, river-polluting and labour-abusing manufacturing industry, it used its brainpower to build a $100-billion IT industry and become an R&D hub for the world's leading companies. These are the skills that will be in the highest demand in the future.

    The new manufacturing environment will need hordes of 3D designers and people who can operate and maintain sophisticated computer-based equipment. This is what India's engineering graduates do best - you see AutoCAD and computer-technician training centres all over the country. Designing new machines and building ever more sophisticated software to operate robots also play well to the strengths of India's IT workers - these are just new computer languages and platforms that they can easily learn.

    The biggest opportunities for India's outsourcing industry, however, lie in helping old-line US companies take advantage of the advancing technologies. New manufacturing plants need to be designed, new technologies and processes implemented, and workers trained to operate sophisticated machinery. This is a logical progression from what Indian companies have been doing for America's IT departments.

    Then there are India's technology entrepreneurs. India's tech scene is now booming as people who have worked for years in the IT outsourcing industry became restless and caught the entrepreneurship bug. In every city, you see legions of experienced IT workers becoming entrepreneurs and starting companies. You also see fresh graduates taking the plunge into entrepreneurship.

    The challenge is to make these entrepreneurs aware of the rapidly-accelerating technologies so that they do their magic and help India innovate its way out of its infrastructural handicaps. And India's IT outsourcing industry has to realise that a period of massive change lies ahead - it needs to adapt or perish.
     
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    well consider several major corporation has R&D center(mircosoft, cisco, etc), i doubt china is lack behind in hardware and software development. looking at students from india/china, both are equally qualify in high-tech industry. its not like china only has peasants and no college grads.
     
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    China should expand domestic demand which will give more contributions to the global.
    Many Chinese only know make money and save to bank, don't will or dont' dare to spend.
    CCP sucks
     
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    wonder if China would make that robot for less then 11000 USD and cut its hand for ever.
     
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    let's face it - coming from the "economic times", i would have to take all of it with more than a pinchful of salt :laugh:
     
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    ^^ Read it yesterday , Felt like an Indian thinking like a Pakhanistani .. :D God save this country..
     
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    Even though the article is pro-India but i don't believe in this sh!t....its half baked article.
    They have been thinking about totally automated robotic manufacturing for very long from the 80's but even today that dream is not materialized.
    China will continue to dominate the manufacturing sector because cost effective labor will have its value till 25 more years and if india opens up its economy for manufacturing then we can a big pie because indian labor will be cheaper then china.
     
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    Now with sino-jap ties weakened, Indian may see more chance. but your infrastructure hinders your development,
     
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    Re: Technology advances to end China's manufacturing dominance, open up new possibili

    Huh? you want us spend? do you take care of our medical insurance, education and mortagage payment?
     
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    China is great, however now days pakis are dreaming to conquer China and convert them in an islamic shythole like theirs...... hence in future we will have no competition from China!! :D
     
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    China is expanding domestic demand. However, with the world largest manufacturing base, these new domestic demand can be easily swallowed by domestic production capacity. After all, you cannot expect a poor country like China to spend its money as US!
     
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    As China has already reached its capacity, therefore first all the spillover will go to others and then finally all the contract will also flow out of china's hand due to cost effectiveness of other countries and copyright violations by chinese!
     
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    This article is some brain fart.

    3D printing is for rapid prototyping, not manufacturing. It has neither the strength nor the cost savings of CNC machining or casting/molding. The author is semi-retarded. His Robot fantasy is also a joke. Robots hurt India and it's uncontrolled population growth.
     
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    Due to high population density we are facing problems like lack of raw materials ( even if raw materials are available its difficult to mine due to environmental problems ), pollution etc. We are not able to utilize cheap work force due to power cuts. If AI technologies boost American manufacturing sector then we can benefit from it by exporting work force ( slaves ). We can also export IT services needed for manufacturing units. As money spend by major IT companies for power are very less compared to their profits, they can reduce power shortage by spending some money for solar panels.
     
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    Israelite men like marry chinese women because both of them take money and property serously while US like to spend all they have
     
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    not yet, Chinese are keep practising English just like Chinese in this forum,
    Chinese will get their IT back-office share although English is very hard for them. but the new generation is catching up and not weird Indian accent.
     
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    my obserservation is this kind of articles actually are very pop and typical in the west and india these days.....

    while i have to agree some of these no one single article can answer me a single question chinese would like to raise or even mentions it which is why for example those sit in calling centers to answer those complain phone calls cant be replaced by robots or maybe just a single computer?? with techs like siri etc developing.......i see majority of those people getting jobless within 30 years at most.......
     
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    If an IBM supercomputer can win 'Jeopardy', it can certainly replace every single call center. It is already happening...
     

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