Tata Motors offers vehicles to replace Tatra trucks

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  1. Defcon 1

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    NEW DELHI: Tata Motors has offered its latest vehicles to the Defence Ministry to replace the controversial Tatra trucks, used so far to carry missiles such as Agni and Prithvi.

    The procurement of Tatra trucks has been put on hold pending a CBI probe into bribery allegations by former Army chief Gen V K Singh.

    Tata Motors will make a presentation before Defence Ministry's Director General (Acquisition) S B Agnihotri about its latest vehicles offered by it to replace Tatra trucks for carrying missile systems of the armed forces such as BrahMos and Pinaka, Defence Ministry sources told PTI here.

    The Ministry has already been offered trucks by Russian and Belarusian firms for replacing the Tatras including the Volat trucks from Belarus which are used to carry strategic missile systems of the Russian armed forces.

    Due to the virtual ban on the procurement of Tatras, several key projects of the Army and the IAF have been put on hold including procurement of land-based version of BrahMos supersonic cruise missile for the Army and the IAF and the Pinaka rockets launchers for the land forces.

    If the proposals made by these firms are accepted, they would be put under trials for being integrated with the missile systems, they said.

    Already, a significant number of Tata trucks are in service with the armed forces but they are in light and medium vehicle category.

    More than 7,000 Tatra trucks are in service with the armed forces and after the controversy in March last year, their repair and maintenance have also become an issue in the defence forces.

    Last March, Gen V K Singh had levelled allegations that he was offered a bribe of Rs 14 crore by a retired Lt Gen to clear a file relating to the procurement of over 600 of these trucks.

    Tata Motors offers vehicles to replace Tatra trucks - Economic Times
     
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  3. sesha_maruthi27

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    Any pics of the trucks offered by the TATA's........
     
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  5. Payeng

    Payeng Daku Mongol Singh

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    I am not a big time fan for TATA products but I welcome a desi company taking the responsibility of land transportation for strategic assets, more over BEML Tatra had some limitations in maximum axle and load weight capacity, say Brahmos missile system could be 4 missile canister instead of 3 in a single vehicle, desi companies might offer flexibility in number of axle and maximum weight capacity plus variation of length and breth of the vehicle, single vehicle transportation for Agni missile system instead of the current Tractor-trailer/ road-rail arrangements, currently Mahindra is new in HMV segment but they seems to have better grip of market trends, Ashok-Leyland got some better rep in HMV segment.
     
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    Payeng Daku Mongol Singh

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    Tata 8x8 Container (Missile Carrier)

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    The Tata LPTA 3138 8x8 is a multi-purpose vehicle for various all terrain applications like Command & control unit, Missile carrier, MHC Radar Station, Missile firing platform, etc.

    The vehicle is equipped with Anti-locking Braking System (ABS), Central Tyre Inflation System (CTIS), Auxiliary Gear box, with high & low speed mode and differential locks system.

    Tata Motors has prepared the EW Command post on LPTA 3138 8x8, in collaboration with its group company Tata Power – SED. The EW Command post is a EMP Hardened MIL Grade shelter for mobile application designed as per MIL-STD-907, MIL-STD-285 intended for Electronic Warfare application.

    Vehicle specification of the Tata 8x8 Pinaka Container:

    Application
    • Pinaka missile system Carrier

    Mobility
    • Power to weight Ratio of 13.4 Hp/Ton
    • 375 Hp @ 2100 RPM
    • 1550 Nm @ 1300 to 1400 Rpm
    • Manual transmission system with 10 forward and 3 reverse gears
    • Gradeability of 30 Deg under full load
    • Max Speed of 80 KMPH in top gear
    • trench crossing ability of 2000 mm
    • Vertical Step climbing ability of 500 mm
    • Fordability of 1200 mm with stop and 1400 mm with pass
    • Ground clearance of 400 mm
    • Payload of 18 Tons

    Utility
    • One Platform Many Variants: Pinaka Missile Carrier container
    • HMV 8x8 with MHC
    • Command and control Unit and Launcher vehicle for Rockets

    Crew Capacity and comfort level
    • Driver and co Driver plus 3 Person on Drivers Cabin
    • HVAC Climate controlled tiltable cabin.

    :notbad:


    Courtesy: Team-Bhp.com
     
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    Tata 12x12 Prahaar Missile Carrier:
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    The Tata LPTA 5252-12 X12 is specifically meant for missile launcher cum carrier applications like integration of Prahar, BrahMos and Nirbhay Missiles, in close coordination with R&DE – DRDO.

    The vehicle is equipped with Anti-Locking Braking System (ABS):eek:, Central Tyre Inflation System (CTIS):fyeah:, Auxiliary Gear box with High and low speed mode and differential locks system. The vehicle is operable normally in 12x8 mode and can be driven in 12x10 and 12x12 modes as per terrain requirements.:notbad:

    Vehicle specification of the Tata 12x12 Prahaar Missile Carrier:

    Application:
    • Prahaar Missile System Carrier and Launcher Platform
    • Brahmos Missile carrier

    Mobility:
    • Power to weight ratio of 10.1 Hp/Ton
    • 525 Hp @ 1800 rpm BSIII
    • 2000 Nm @ 1200 RPM
    • Automatic Transmission system with 7 forward and one reverse gear
    • Gradability of 30 deg under full payload
    • Max Speed of 80 kmph in top gear
    • Ditch crossing ability of 2000 mm
    • Vertical Step climbing ability of 600 mm
    • Fordability of 1200 mm with stop and 1400 mm with pass
    • Ground clearance of 400 mm
    • Payload of 33 Tons :notbad:

    Utility:
    • One Platform, Many variants: Prahaar Missile system Carrier
    • Launcher vehicle and command and control unit for various missile systems

    Crew Capacity and comfort level:
    • Driver and co driver plus 3 person in drivers Cabin
    • HVAC Climate controlled tiltable cabin

    Courtesy: Team-Bhp.com
     
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    Tata 8x8 Water Purification system:

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    The Mobile Water decontamination system on the LPTA 3138 8x8 has been developed in collaboration with M/s WEW (Germany). The aim to provide a solution for the drinking water contamination problem, faced by Armed Forces & Paramilitary forces, at disaster struck areas. This application is also apt for State Governments and various Municipal agencies, to tackle the issue of supplying drinking water to remote villages. This water decontamination system is capable of purifying the most impure forms of water and make it portable through Reverse Osmosis (RO) process.


    Vehicle specification of the Tata 8x8 Water Purification system:
    Application
    • 7 KL Water Decontamination System
    • Reverse Osmosis Purification Technology
    • Capable of Purifying any form of impure water including one with Arsenic poisoning

    Mobility
    • Power to weight ratio of 13.4 Hp/Ton
    • 375 Hp @ 2100 RPM
    • 1548 Nm @ 1200 to 1400 RPM
    • Manual Transmission system with 10 Forward and 2 reverse gears
    • Gradeability of 25 Deg under full load
    • Max Speed of 80 kmph in top gear
    • trench crossing ability of 2000 mm
    • Vertical Step climbing ability of 600 mm
    • Fordability of 1200 mm with stop and 1400 mm with pass
    • Ground clearance of 350 mm
    • Payload of 17 Ton
    • Range of 600 km at GVW

    Utility
    • One Platform Many Variants : 7 KL WEW Water decontamination system
    • HMV 8x8 with MHC
    • Command and control Unit and Launcher vehicle for Rockets

    Crew Capacity and comfort level
    • Driver and co Driver plus 3 persons on Drivers Cabin
    • World Class HVAC Climate controlled tiltable cabin


    Courtesy: Team-Bhp.com
     
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    Tata 6x6 7kl Refueler:

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    The Tata LPTA 2038 6x6 Refueller has been developed for the Indian Armed forces, Paramilitary, State police, DPSUs, State Government & Municipal Agencies and the Aviation industry. The vehicle has already been trial evaluated by the Indian Armed forces for various applications like Common Gun Tower, HMV with Material Handling crane, Multi Barrel Rocket launcher GRAD BM 21, etc.

    The vehicle is available with both manual and automatic transmission. The vehicle has Anti-locking Braking System (ABS), Central Tyre Inflation System (CTIS), Auxiliary Gear box with high and low speed mode and differential locks system.

    Tata Motors has developed a demountable fuel bowser on the LPTA 2038 6x6 HMV, in collaboration with M/s WEW (Germany), specifically for all terrain applications and usage by various aviation sector agencies. This application is also apt for defence purposes, as this demountable concept is specially made for fuel storage & dispensing, in varied terrains.

    Vehicle specification of the Tata 6x6 7kl Refueler:

    Application
    • 7 KL Refueller System
    • CGT 6x6
    • HMV with MHC 6x6
    • GRAD BM 21 Rocket Launcher
    • Tactical communication system

    Mobility
    • Power to weight ratio of 17.4 Hp / Ton
    • 375 Hp @ 2100 RPM
    • Automatic Transmission system with 7 forward and 01 reverse gears
    • Manual Transmission system with 9 forward and 1 Reverse gear (Automatic transmission system optional)
    • Gradeability of 25 Deg under full load
    • Max Speed of 80 kmph in top gear
    • Trench crossing ability of 900 mm
    • Vertical step climbing ability of 500 mm
    • Fordability of 500 mm
    • Ground clearance of 360 mm
    • Payload of 10.5 Tons
    • Range of 500 km at GVW

    Utility
    • One platform, Many Variants : 7 KL Refueler System
    • CGT 6x6
    • HMV with MHC 6x6
    • GRAD BM 21 Rocket Launcher
    • Tactical communication system

    Crew Capacity and comfort level
    • Driver and co Driver plus 3 Person on Drivers Cabin
    • HVAC Climate controlled tiltable cabin.

    Courtesy: Team-Bhp.com
     
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    @Payeng is in full form today. Great going man! Cheers!
     
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    If Tatas can jiggle boobs on a truck, why do you need scandle ridden Tatra?
     
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    And let our poor politicians and babus starve. Hell no.
     
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    Rage DFI TEAM Stars and Ambassadors

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    Anybody notice the "wheel steering" in the last 12x12 truck? The front 4x4 are turning right while the rear 4x4 are turning left, effectively reducing the turning radius. Pretty neat. This last vehicle is also supposed to be a carrier for our cruise missiles, if we want it.
     
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    That sort of stuff has been standard on US and Soviet missile carriers since the 70s and Chinese missile carriers since the 90s...
     
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    I don't doubt it. I'm just saying, that it's good that a private Indian supplier thought of incorporating it before it even had an order on its books.

    Can you also tell us also which of the Chinese military trucks have wheel steering?
     
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    Payeng Daku Mongol Singh

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    Pinaka MBRL Carrier ;)
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    Payeng Daku Mongol Singh

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    Well well not sure which vehicle is this :notsure:
     
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    Payeng Daku Mongol Singh

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    Anyways that would be helpfull

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    with the payload of
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    = :thumb:
     
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    Lets see how the suspension system of TATA compared to TATRA as the former is known for its ability ,the one IA uses is old assembled models of TATRA sourced through third party .

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    TATRA's suspension

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    i believe the Tata trucks are conventional 8x8 and these trucks are not going to replace Tatra's and will only be used as a logistic truck like Stallion but with a higher payload .
     
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    don't go by looks its only 520 horsepower & The thing is too long to venture off road ,the axles do not look too promising in terms of articulation , The TATRA T813 is a torque monster and I have seen it doing pulling insane load
     
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